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4/29/2024 7:40am
philG wrote:
Conrad Mewse should be an option, but he will have all sorts of contractual stuff in the UK that will make it hard.  I thought Nagl...

Conrad Mewse should be an option, but he will have all sorts of contractual stuff in the UK that will make it hard. 

I thought Nagl too, especially with Teuschenthal coming up, but he is old. 

Brent Van Doninck would have been decent, but obviously he is out , with Tim Edberg doing a decent job for a new guy on a 450. 

LVB , would be nice to see him get a chance, is there a French rider that could step up. 

 

Renner153 wrote:
No MXGP factory team is gonna touch Mewse.    Call Henry Jacobi. I’m sure he can get out of his team pretty easy.    Why would...

No MXGP factory team is gonna touch Mewse. 
 

Call Henry Jacobi. I’m sure he can get out of his team pretty easy. 
 

Why would HRC put van berkel on the bike? No offense to him, but he’s gonna be rolling around in what 18-26? 

MitchMX wrote:
If you see yesterdays performance of Mewse he should be a good fit on the HRC Honda. Why would no team touch Mewse? I know, one...

If you see yesterdays performance of Mewse he should be a good fit on the HRC Honda.
Why would no team touch Mewse?

I know, one good result doesn't mean he will be top 5 material but I could see him getting some top 10 results... 

Mewse has a history of being really impressive at domestic races but then laying bricks at the GPs. Maybe it's a pressure handling situation? 

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4/29/2024 8:03am
MitchMX wrote:
If you see yesterdays performance of Mewse he should be a good fit on the HRC Honda. Why would no team touch Mewse? I know, one...

If you see yesterdays performance of Mewse he should be a good fit on the HRC Honda.
Why would no team touch Mewse?

I know, one good result doesn't mean he will be top 5 material but I could see him getting some top 10 results... 

Mewse has had his chance at success in GP’s & has blown it every time. He went from 125’s in 2015 to MX2 the next year, he rode the 1st EMX250 round in 2016 & went 1-1. Then for whatever reason the team moved him up to MX2 for the next round. He should’ve stayed in EMX that year then moved up. Only the super talented can go from EMX125 to MX2, De Wolf & Laengenfelder spring to mind. 

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4/29/2024 8:36am
MitchMX wrote:
If you see yesterdays performance of Mewse he should be a good fit on the HRC Honda. Why would no team touch Mewse? I know, one...

If you see yesterdays performance of Mewse he should be a good fit on the HRC Honda.
Why would no team touch Mewse?

I know, one good result doesn't mean he will be top 5 material but I could see him getting some top 10 results... 

Mewse has had his chance at success in GP’s & has blown it every time. He went from 125’s in 2015 to MX2 the next year...

Mewse has had his chance at success in GP’s & has blown it every time. He went from 125’s in 2015 to MX2 the next year, he rode the 1st EMX250 round in 2016 & went 1-1. Then for whatever reason the team moved him up to MX2 for the next round. He should’ve stayed in EMX that year then moved up. Only the super talented can go from EMX125 to MX2, De Wolf & Laengenfelder spring to mind. 

Agreed, they rushed him into mx2. Shame really as could have been a real talent if progressed properly. Tough to take for GB fans as nothing to cheer about in MXGP 

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4/29/2024 9:14am

We've met him on a number of occasions now, and he's nice guy to talk to. Shame he didn't really find his groove at the bigger events. Funnily enough I feel Natzke had a similar trajectory, if I'm right Mewse and Natzke both were on KTM's 125 European effort with Prado. There can be only one, it seems.

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4/29/2024 9:21am
MitchMX wrote:
If you see yesterdays performance of Mewse he should be a good fit on the HRC Honda. Why would no team touch Mewse? I know, one...

If you see yesterdays performance of Mewse he should be a good fit on the HRC Honda.
Why would no team touch Mewse?

I know, one good result doesn't mean he will be top 5 material but I could see him getting some top 10 results... 

Mewse has had his chance at success in GP’s & has blown it every time. He went from 125’s in 2015 to MX2 the next year...

Mewse has had his chance at success in GP’s & has blown it every time. He went from 125’s in 2015 to MX2 the next year, he rode the 1st EMX250 round in 2016 & went 1-1. Then for whatever reason the team moved him up to MX2 for the next round. He should’ve stayed in EMX that year then moved up. Only the super talented can go from EMX125 to MX2, De Wolf & Laengenfelder spring to mind. 

Agreed, they rushed him into mx2. Shame really as could have been a real talent if progressed properly. Tough to take for GB fans as nothing...

Agreed, they rushed him into mx2. Shame really as could have been a real talent if progressed properly. Tough to take for GB fans as nothing to cheer about in MXGP 

Maybe you should cheer for Watson then mate since he’s been carrying team GB for years now 

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4/29/2024 9:25am
tomneal19 wrote:

Maybe you should cheer for Watson then mate since he’s been carrying team GB for years now 

Once Watson is done in GP’s who do we cheer on? Maybe Billy Askew. 

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4/29/2024 9:29am
Mucktub wrote:
We've met him on a number of occasions now, and he's nice guy to talk to. Shame he didn't really find his groove at the bigger...

We've met him on a number of occasions now, and he's nice guy to talk to. Shame he didn't really find his groove at the bigger events. Funnily enough I feel Natzke had a similar trajectory, if I'm right Mewse and Natzke both were on KTM's 125 European effort with Prado. There can be only one, it seems.

Mewse should stayed on emx250 one season but ktm...

Natzke imo isnt on the same caliver of Mewse and Prado.

Natzke was 16 when he race emx125 and was pretty big and Prado was 14 and a small and tinny guy.

Im not trying to discredict Natzke but imo he is only a "good" rider.

 

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4/29/2024 9:47am
tomneal19 wrote:

Maybe you should cheer for Watson then mate since he’s been carrying team GB for years now 

Once Watson is done in GP’s who do we cheer on? Maybe Billy Askew. 

Hopefully so, but if not him then we’re really screwed for awhile. Bens had the most passes of anyone in MXGP this year if that isn’t something to watch I don’t know what is. Never understand the hate towards him from British fans 

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4/29/2024 10:10am
NVA57 wrote:

Mewse has a history of being really impressive at domestic races but then laying bricks at the GPs. Maybe it's a pressure handling situation? 

Mewse himself already said that he is mentally much more confortable with racing british championship than MXGP.

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4/29/2024 10:44am
Mewse has had his chance at success in GP’s & has blown it every time. He went from 125’s in 2015 to MX2 the next year...

Mewse has had his chance at success in GP’s & has blown it every time. He went from 125’s in 2015 to MX2 the next year, he rode the 1st EMX250 round in 2016 & went 1-1. Then for whatever reason the team moved him up to MX2 for the next round. He should’ve stayed in EMX that year then moved up. Only the super talented can go from EMX125 to MX2, De Wolf & Laengenfelder spring to mind. 

Agreed, they rushed him into mx2. Shame really as could have been a real talent if progressed properly. Tough to take for GB fans as nothing...

Agreed, they rushed him into mx2. Shame really as could have been a real talent if progressed properly. Tough to take for GB fans as nothing to cheer about in MXGP 

tomneal19 wrote:

Maybe you should cheer for Watson then mate since he’s been carrying team GB for years now 

Don’t get your knickers in a twist mate. I’m a Big Ben fan, the problem I have with MXGP is they won’t show Ben passing riders for 10th 9th or even 8th positions and will just show prado riding round in 1st on his own and it’s a bit of a snooze fest. 

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4/29/2024 10:50am
Agreed, they rushed him into mx2. Shame really as could have been a real talent if progressed properly. Tough to take for GB fans as nothing...

Agreed, they rushed him into mx2. Shame really as could have been a real talent if progressed properly. Tough to take for GB fans as nothing to cheer about in MXGP 

tomneal19 wrote:

Maybe you should cheer for Watson then mate since he’s been carrying team GB for years now 

Don’t get your knickers in a twist mate. I’m a Big Ben fan, the problem I have with MXGP is they won’t show Ben passing riders...

Don’t get your knickers in a twist mate. I’m a Big Ben fan, the problem I have with MXGP is they won’t show Ben passing riders for 10th 9th or even 8th positions and will just show prado riding round in 1st on his own and it’s a bit of a snooze fest. 

All good, just don’t think Ben gets the respect he deserves sometimes. Think we’ll be seeing a lot more of Ben if they can get that bike off the line. Conrad in MXGP wouldn’t be seen either he’s had many chances but never delivered for whatever reason 

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4/29/2024 11:45am
tomneal19 wrote:

Maybe you should cheer for Watson then mate since he’s been carrying team GB for years now 

Don’t get your knickers in a twist mate. I’m a Big Ben fan, the problem I have with MXGP is they won’t show Ben passing riders...

Don’t get your knickers in a twist mate. I’m a Big Ben fan, the problem I have with MXGP is they won’t show Ben passing riders for 10th 9th or even 8th positions and will just show prado riding round in 1st on his own and it’s a bit of a snooze fest. 

tomneal19 wrote:
All good, just don’t think Ben gets the respect he deserves sometimes. Think we’ll be seeing a lot more of Ben if they can get that...

All good, just don’t think Ben gets the respect he deserves sometimes. Think we’ll be seeing a lot more of Ben if they can get that bike off the line. Conrad in MXGP wouldn’t be seen either he’s had many chances but never delivered for whatever reason 

Agree Ben has the speed but the bike seems to struggle with the start. Did see some reviews from the US saying the bike has really nice smooth power but not the raw power like yami or kawi 

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4/29/2024 1:25pm
tomneal19 wrote:
All good, just don’t think Ben gets the respect he deserves sometimes. Think we’ll be seeing a lot more of Ben if they can get that...

All good, just don’t think Ben gets the respect he deserves sometimes. Think we’ll be seeing a lot more of Ben if they can get that bike off the line. Conrad in MXGP wouldn’t be seen either he’s had many chances but never delivered for whatever reason 

But if he he could get it off the line, he wouldnt be making all those passes. LOL

I always wonder what would have happened if he hadnt have gone down leading at Trentino on his last year on the 450 Yamaha. 

And what he could have done on the Kawasaki with Febvre not being injured.  It was one thing having to run different suspension, but being the only guy , with all that money in that team , on a fresh bike did for him, just like it did for Mitch Evans.

Its a shame, with RvdM spannering Vialle, and Renaux moving up early,  that took away Ben's year where he was going to be fully at home on the 450.

He is doing great things on the Beta, i would love to see him at Triumph with Febvre, but with Haarup going well and aging out , i cant see it happening, so to stay in MXGP , he will need to stay with with Beta i reckon.  It is getting better. 

But the trouble is, when you get to the big Teams, everyone is looking after their own arses, and would rather lose than win with something that wasnt their idea. 

 

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4/29/2024 1:55pm
tomneal19 wrote:
All good, just don’t think Ben gets the respect he deserves sometimes. Think we’ll be seeing a lot more of Ben if they can get that...

All good, just don’t think Ben gets the respect he deserves sometimes. Think we’ll be seeing a lot more of Ben if they can get that bike off the line. Conrad in MXGP wouldn’t be seen either he’s had many chances but never delivered for whatever reason 

He doesnt, and Malin seems to hardly mention him on the broadcast. 

What Mewse had, like Pootjes, Natzke and a few others, was the pressure to be ' the next Herlings' based off what they were doing on 85's , which was too much for all of them at that age, how many kids have we had in the UK who were going to do big things, till they didn't, because either they couldnt take the speed they had as kids into the big leagues ( and that has happened since the 70's) or that the speed they had , was only between crashes. 

And now we have no idea who our fast guys are, because they are spread out over so many series, instead of trying to race at the best level. 

We have Bobby Bruce and Billy Askew coming through,  It doesnt seem like 5 minutes since Ben & Nathan Watson, Adam Sterry , and yourself were racing Big Wheel 85's and 150's , and aside of Mewse, i cant think of anyone who has made an impact at World level since. 

 

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4/29/2024 2:52pm

Just seen searles vlog. Even JH says Conrad is capable of top 5/6 in mxgp but seems to blow it when in Europe. Shame really 

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4/29/2024 2:56pm

Just seen searles vlog. Even JH says Conrad is capable of top 5/6 in mxgp but seems to blow it when in Europe. Shame really 

Plenty of top 15-30 mxgp riders would be top 5 riders if they rode the same way at the Gp’s as they do at home.

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4/30/2024 1:01am

There's a good section in Rob Andrews' book about the pressure and psychology of stepping up and doing Grand Prixs. Greg Hanson used to run Thorpey close and give him a hard time at the British rounds but couldn't get near him at GP's. When asked why Greg couldn't convert his home speed to the GP's, DT said that when Greg got to a GP he didn't expect to win whereas DT did. Mewse and the current crop of GB riders seem to be a similar mindset.

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4/30/2024 1:35am
MitchMX wrote:
If you see yesterdays performance of Mewse he should be a good fit on the HRC Honda. Why would no team touch Mewse? I know, one...

If you see yesterdays performance of Mewse he should be a good fit on the HRC Honda.
Why would no team touch Mewse?

I know, one good result doesn't mean he will be top 5 material but I could see him getting some top 10 results... 

Mewse has had his chance at success in GP’s & has blown it every time. He went from 125’s in 2015 to MX2 the next year...

Mewse has had his chance at success in GP’s & has blown it every time. He went from 125’s in 2015 to MX2 the next year, he rode the 1st EMX250 round in 2016 & went 1-1. Then for whatever reason the team moved him up to MX2 for the next round. He should’ve stayed in EMX that year then moved up. Only the super talented can go from EMX125 to MX2, De Wolf & Laengenfelder spring to mind. 

Kay raced EMX 250 in 2020 Smile

Regarding Mewse, it's a shame he got bumped up to MX2 too soon. With a year in EMX250 under his belt I think he'd have had a much different career on the world stage.

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Eddie Jay Wade won either the 65 or 85 world championship some years ago going 1-1, he had some reasonable showings in EMX the last few years but seemed to struggle with being consistent and keeping upright. Any news on his future in MX.

Charlie Heyman is also one with potential and I was told led a moto at Foxhills last week until a crash with a few laps remaining.

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4/30/2024 3:35am
Mucktub wrote:
Eddie Jay Wade won either the 65 or 85 world championship some years ago going 1-1, he had some reasonable showings in EMX the last few...

Eddie Jay Wade won either the 65 or 85 world championship some years ago going 1-1, he had some reasonable showings in EMX the last few years but seemed to struggle with being consistent and keeping upright. Any news on his future in MX.

Charlie Heyman is also one with potential and I was told led a moto at Foxhills last week until a crash with a few laps remaining.

Ike Carter is another rider who was half decent in recent years. Not sure what he's up too now. Charlie Heyman could also be one to watch as the season goes on for sure. In 2022 he finished sixth overall at Matterley in the EMX125 class with a few current MX2 riders behind him so he has potential.

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4/30/2024 4:54am
Snapper wrote:
Ike Carter is another rider who was half decent in recent years. Not sure what he's up too now. Charlie Heyman could also be one to...

Ike Carter is another rider who was half decent in recent years. Not sure what he's up too now. Charlie Heyman could also be one to watch as the season goes on for sure. In 2022 he finished sixth overall at Matterley in the EMX125 class with a few current MX2 riders behind him so he has potential.

Ike Carter has retired from professional racing after just 1 year in the pro ranks. He couldn’t find a decent ride. Definitely talented. 

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4/30/2024 5:24am
Mucktub wrote:
Eddie Jay Wade won either the 65 or 85 world championship some years ago going 1-1, he had some reasonable showings in EMX the last few...

Eddie Jay Wade won either the 65 or 85 world championship some years ago going 1-1, he had some reasonable showings in EMX the last few years but seemed to struggle with being consistent and keeping upright. Any news on his future in MX.

Charlie Heyman is also one with potential and I was told led a moto at Foxhills last week until a crash with a few laps remaining.

Snapper wrote:
Ike Carter is another rider who was half decent in recent years. Not sure what he's up too now. Charlie Heyman could also be one to...

Ike Carter is another rider who was half decent in recent years. Not sure what he's up too now. Charlie Heyman could also be one to watch as the season goes on for sure. In 2022 he finished sixth overall at Matterley in the EMX125 class with a few current MX2 riders behind him so he has potential.

I spent a lot of time with Charlie over winter this year. Great kid. He definitely has the skills, but not sure he’s in the mindset to go race GP’s. He will be racing some of the AMA outdoor nationals this year, will be cool to see how he gets on here. We discussed for quite a bit why GB doesn’t seem to have anyone coming up to be a top GP rider. Seems most kids in GB would rather just stay there and race and not go over to Europe and put in the work. 

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4/30/2024 7:48am
NVA57 wrote:

Mewse has a history of being really impressive at domestic races but then laying bricks at the GPs. Maybe it's a pressure handling situation? 

Mewse himself already said that he is mentally much more confortable with racing british championship than MXGP.

I believe Mewse is a rider that could really benefit from riding for the right team with the right (mental) guidance. Sadly that it never happened.

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Just seen searles vlog. Even JH says Conrad is capable of top 5/6 in mxgp but seems to blow it when in Europe. Shame really 

I'm not surprised. Mewes gave Herlings a run for his money and on a sand track.

 

 

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5/1/2024 9:34am
NVA57 wrote:

Mewse has a history of being really impressive at domestic races but then laying bricks at the GPs. Maybe it's a pressure handling situation? 

Mewse himself already said that he is mentally much more confortable with racing british championship than MXGP.

NVA57 wrote:

I believe Mewse is a rider that could really benefit from riding for the right team with the right (mental) guidance. Sadly that it never happened.

Not so sure. I like Conrad, but he spent a lot of time with Hitachi KTM who was willing to do about anything for him to reach that level, and he never could.

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