Do you feel like MXGP is slowly becoming a championship with no big "house-hold" names?
IMO right now we have Prado, Herlings, Gasjer and Febvre. But thats it.
No disrespect to Renaux, Coldenhoff, Jonass, Seewer.. of course. But... u'know..?
And Febvre is 33. Prado kinda wants to race in America. I still think we will see Herlings racing in America too.
Im starting to feel that MXGP will turn into something not that exciting in the next 4 years because the lack of "stars".
I understand that things are not that "Marketing Focused" in Europe as it is in America, but it might hurt the sport. Look the lack of entries right now, or these weird races in Asia. It is a symptom already, in a way.
While in US you have ony stars, basically. And theres always big names in 250 that moves up with time.
Any thoughts?
Is European/MXGP losing appeal by having no new stars?
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young guns like Everts, de Wolf, Adamo on the way dude.
Everts, Cohen Brothers and more.
Mxgp championship is as healthy as its ever been for 20 years.
Yeah the mx2 class is full of talent, and all young guns. If you can’t see that I’m not sure you’ve been paying much attention to it.
At least some of those 250 guys have been looking at coming to the States in the next several years but who knows if they make it
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I think the next wave looks promising to be honest , some will go US some will stay , Tims still got a while in him 👍
If they scheduled 2 rounds in the states ie...Glen Helen and Budds Creek...let the Americans have a chance to qualify up to a 40 man gate...that would spark American interest more than anything. Jmo.
Glen Helen USGP was a ghost town. No one cared which is why it didn't last .
I remember but maybe we promote it better this time. It really is a good yardstick in the USA vs GP debate. A great addition to the MXdN which is all we have but it's not the same.
It also fires up more attention from both sides.
uhm de wolf? Längenfelder? Coenen Brothers, Everts, Geerts..? Cant remember a last time when the mx2 class was this promising
Sry dude but II think that's more true for the AMA 450 class, and I also think there's more young talent in MX2 than in AMA 250 among the pensioners who could do something in the big boys class in the future. The average age of the front runners in the AMA 250s is about 25 years old now. While in Europe, 17-year-old guys rule the series. And don't forget that Vialle is older than Prado
It's fast becoming a feeder series for our series here in the USA.
I am and have been a big fan of watching the GP races going on about 10 years. Still follow it religiously but just can't feasibly justify the subscription amount any more.
I can’t speak for the Euro’s but I hope not. For the health of our sport worldwide, I hope both the AMA series & the MXGP series keeps generating stars & fan interest.
I hear you. I’m trying to cut back on expenses too, but miss watching the series. Any interest in splitting the cost? I have been trying to find someone to split it with. Share a log-in & split costs.
Paul and his comments alone are worth the amount already
Whether I spend 150 USD at the bar in the evening or watch 20 rounds quality racing+MXON is a matter of choices
With people over here celebrating Tomac (who is in the later years of his career) doing the outdoors because someone needs to beat Jett, it’s fair to say the US has no real place to say much at the moment. I also think the MXGP riders will have the US based ones covered in the nations too
The average age of the top 10-12 in both premier classes sits around 28.
In four years time, it will look very different across both series! The difference is, the US will have the three biggest stars with Lawrence, Sexton and Prado, whilst MXGP will have Gasjer and Renaux. In the fullness of time, Gasjer will be remembered as one of the best to grace MXGP, but he doesn't have the star power of Herlings, Cairoli or Everts and never will as an active racer.
And whilst MX2 probably has more emerging talent, how many remain in Europe is a question mark...
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I think the 250 class is absolutely stacked over there right now. Everts, dewolf, coenen bros, adamo, langenfelder… Dewolf is my favorite rider in the world right now too.
I don’t think it was a lack of promotion, it was a lack of US factory support. I’m pretty sure KTM was the only US team to show up. Get the factories involved again like back in the day and the interest from American fans will be there.
The Coenen brothers are coming to the US in 2025 and DeWolf has made it very clear his dream is to race the AMA series.
Perhaps you are thinking of America ??
Lewis said deWolf's team had to tell him to stop talking about racing over here. He was talking about it so much
Who cares about big names . They don’t make the race exciting at all. I get the predictable aspect of a guy you like to watch. But I watch for the racing action. I search for the 125 emx races and don’t know a single rider. Only 2 Americans raced them and they got beat pretty good. The 125 riders up front r not the usual countries. It’s Latvia & countries you never hear of. The kids r rippers I watch for little things there doing that American riders don’t. The 125 has the best racing I couldn’t tell you a single name this yr . But the racing is still exciting.
I don’t get why they even want to race here . It’s not like it was yrs ago. The sx tracks r terrible and there only a a few national tracks that r any good. I would rather travel the world and b world a champion. Some say the weather . End of April it’s 93 and muggy in the se already. And it rains here Real hard with flooding. I,be been in rain for 3 days straight. Up north it’s 30-40,s at night. Last Tuesday morning it was rain then snow 30 mi if that from red Bud. It’s probably a money thing but they don’t realize that more than 1/2 will go to taxes. A smart rider would start a buisness and hv the team pay his buisness. Then rt everything off and keep some of his money. Like me as a ic similar way a rider gets paid . I hv a massive amount of deductions. Our wages r 1/2 of what they were 5 yrs ago.
Money, simple as that
I think it feels like this because there is absolutely no media coverage besides the broadcast. Where can we find a press conference, post race show like weege, post race interview in the pits like SML, RacerX, Vital, etc. No pods during the week like Pulp, title24, Weege and JT, JS7. I'm going to get shit for this but the they're behind the times over there. Its like they don't realize how important this is. They need more stuff to get new fans in and keep them entertained and involved.
If I've watched both AMA and MXGP in one weekend, then trust me, I have my dummy full of moto for the rest of the whole week and I personally don't wanna hear much about motocross until the next weekend.
I don't watch all of them and seldom do I watch more than one of them a week, but its good for the sport that there is so much content and something for everyone. MXGP needs at least one thing like this. Like how cool would it be if Everts had a podcast going over the racing every other week.
Beside for the likes of Everts, Cairoli and Herlings the riders of the GP series don’t have the stardom like the US based riders.
They can roam free in the pits without fans clinging on to them and wanting pictures taken etc.
There is a big difference between the US riders and the rest at the MxDn’s i have been to. People get massive star struck when they see those riders and if a GP rider walks by it’s not the same thing.
I thing US in general with the amount of media outlets is better at creating a star profile around the riders than europe that more or less just have infront/mxgp broadcast to tell the fans what’s happening.
And with that said, i belive that the average gp fan don’t have a absolute favorite rider like many of the US fans have. The gp fans attend to a race to watch motocross racing, not the see their rider.
And that makes me belive that the GP’s wont hurt as much if a top rider goes over to the US, there will always come another rider to fill his place and the show will go on.
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