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4/28/2024 10:29am

@smee113 Let's say Jett has an injury at some point and misses some races, those will still count as races passed right? Or are you strictly doing the amount of races he's entered in? The wording in the original post is a little weird.

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4/28/2024 12:11pm Edited Date/Time 4/28/2024 2:10pm
aeffertz wrote:
@smee113 Let's say Jett has an injury at some point and misses some races, those will still count as races passed right? Or are you strictly...

@smee113 Let's say Jett has an injury at some point and misses some races, those will still count as races passed right? Or are you strictly doing the amount of races he's entered in? The wording in the original post is a little weird.

Strictly off the number of mains Jett has made. I refer to them as "races" since not all Supercross races are mains (IE, Double Headers and Triple Crowns).

 

I think missed races would be too hard to calculate since some riders raced 450SX part-time (not missed due to injury), and LCQ results only go back to the mid-80's via Cycle News.

 

I'm planning to do more detailed spreadsheet once the season is over that'll compare the rookie seasons of all former champions, including age, races won, races missed, average finish, and season standings.

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aeffertz wrote:
@smee113 Let's say Jett has an injury at some point and misses some races, those will still count as races passed right? Or are you strictly...

@smee113 Let's say Jett has an injury at some point and misses some races, those will still count as races passed right? Or are you strictly doing the amount of races he's entered in? The wording in the original post is a little weird.

smee113 wrote:
Strictly off the number of mains Jett has made. I refer to them as "races" since not all Supercross races are mains (IE, Double Headers and...

Strictly off the number of mains Jett has made. I refer to them as "races" since not all Supercross races are mains (IE, Double Headers and Triple Crowns).

 

I think missed races would be too hard to calculate since some riders raced 450SX part-time (not missed due to injury), and LCQ results only go back to the mid-80's via Cycle News.

 

I'm planning to do more detailed spreadsheet once the season is over that'll compare the rookie seasons of all former champions, including age, races won, races missed, average finish, and season standings.

Many racers on your list had much shorter AMA race seasons during their careers as well.

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4/28/2024 2:06pm Edited Date/Time 4/28/2024 2:07pm
vet323 wrote:

Many racers on your list had much shorter AMA race seasons during their careers as well.

Yeah, I mean there's no perfect way to do it. You could also argue that guys in the 80's get kinda screwed over since there was no 250SX regional classes for them to develope in; they got thrown into the deep end right from the start.

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5/4/2024 11:05pm

Updated, Jett breaks tie with Jimmy Ellis

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Assuming Jett wraps up the title next week he will equal a few other legends as well:

Joins James Stewart as the only riders to win all five AMA MX and SX titles - 250E and 250W, 250MX, 450MX and 450SX.

Joins Ryan Dungey as the only riders to win titles in both their rookie 450MX and 450SX seasons.

He will sit equal with Barnett, Emig, Bailey and Keidrowski on 4 AMA titles, equal 12th on the all time list.

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Damn, already to the top of the list.

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Anyone who thinks he has a bigger ego than McGrath or half the people on this list have their head up their ass. He’s killin it 💪🏻

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mbw479 wrote:
Anyone who thinks he has a bigger ego than McGrath or half the people on this list have their head up their ass. He’s killin it...

Anyone who thinks he has a bigger ego than McGrath or half the people on this list have their head up their ass. He’s killin it 💪🏻

McGrath showed how big his ego is when he went sour hearing that a rider had a goal to beat his win record instead of embracing it and looking classy about it.

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5/5/2024 1:54am Edited Date/Time 5/5/2024 1:54am
mbw479 wrote:
Anyone who thinks he has a bigger ego than McGrath or half the people on this list have their head up their ass. He’s killin it...

Anyone who thinks he has a bigger ego than McGrath or half the people on this list have their head up their ass. He’s killin it 💪🏻

He may have spoken too early with the “McGrath sx win record” comment, but judging by all the records he’s breaking thus far, that doesn’t mean he misspoke. 
 

Respect where it’s due.  The kid is phenomenal in the literal sense of the word

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He may have spoken too early with the “McGrath sx win record” comment, but judging by all the records he’s breaking thus far, that doesn’t mean...

He may have spoken too early with the “McGrath sx win record” comment, but judging by all the records he’s breaking thus far, that doesn’t mean he misspoke. 
 

Respect where it’s due.  The kid is phenomenal in the literal sense of the word

How can you speak to early about having a goal in life? 
 

 

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ando wrote:
Assuming Jett wraps up the title next week he will equal a few other legends as well: Joins James Stewart as the only riders to win...

Assuming Jett wraps up the title next week he will equal a few other legends as well:

Joins James Stewart as the only riders to win all five AMA MX and SX titles - 250E and 250W, 250MX, 450MX and 450SX.

Joins Ryan Dungey as the only riders to win titles in both their rookie 450MX and 450SX seasons.

He will sit equal with Barnett, Emig, Bailey and Keidrowski on 4 AMA titles, equal 12th on the all time list.

-He'll also become the third rookie in history to win the premier SX championship (McGrath in 1993 and Dungey in 2010).
*McGrath did six 250/450 SX races in 1992 (20-10-6-5-8-6)
*Dungey did three 450 SX races in 2008 (4-10-2)

-He's the only rookie to win his 450 SX debut race (Anaheim 1).

-He'll also join RC on a six-consecutive championship run (seven if you want to include the SMX title). RC has seven consecutive championships, and all were in the 250/450 class. 

Jett

2021 250 MX Champion 
2022 250 SX East Champion
2022 250 MX Champion
2023 250 SX West Champion
2023 450 MX Champion
2023 450 SMX Champion
2024 450 SX Champion 

RC

2000 250/450 MX Champion
2001 250/450 SX Champion
2001 250/450 MX Champion
2002 250/450 SX Champion
2002 250/450 MX Champion
2003 250/450 SX Champion
2003 250/450 MX Champion

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He may have spoken too early with the “McGrath sx win record” comment, but judging by all the records he’s breaking thus far, that doesn’t mean...

He may have spoken too early with the “McGrath sx win record” comment, but judging by all the records he’s breaking thus far, that doesn’t mean he misspoke. 
 

Respect where it’s due.  The kid is phenomenal in the literal sense of the word

Tumic wrote:

How can you speak to early about having a goal in life? 
 

 

Anytime you want to chat I'm all ears. I may not be the smartest guy but I've learned a few lessons along the way if you're looking for advice. Lol

But seriously, Jett is as impressive a rider as anyone I've seen in any motorcycle discipline, props to him, he's earned it the hard way.

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ando wrote:
Assuming Jett wraps up the title next week he will equal a few other legends as well: Joins James Stewart as the only riders to win...

Assuming Jett wraps up the title next week he will equal a few other legends as well:

Joins James Stewart as the only riders to win all five AMA MX and SX titles - 250E and 250W, 250MX, 450MX and 450SX.

Joins Ryan Dungey as the only riders to win titles in both their rookie 450MX and 450SX seasons.

He will sit equal with Barnett, Emig, Bailey and Keidrowski on 4 AMA titles, equal 12th on the all time list.

-MAVERICK- wrote:
-He'll also become the third rookie in history to win the premier SX championship (McGrath in 1993 and Dungey in 2010). *McGrath did six 250/450 SX...

-He'll also become the third rookie in history to win the premier SX championship (McGrath in 1993 and Dungey in 2010).
*McGrath did six 250/450 SX races in 1992 (20-10-6-5-8-6)
*Dungey did three 450 SX races in 2008 (4-10-2)

-He's the only rookie to win his 450 SX debut race (Anaheim 1).

-He'll also join RC on a six-consecutive championship run (seven if you want to include the SMX title). RC has seven consecutive championships, and all were in the 250/450 class. 

Jett

2021 250 MX Champion 
2022 250 SX East Champion
2022 250 MX Champion
2023 250 SX West Champion
2023 450 MX Champion
2023 450 SMX Champion
2024 450 SX Champion 

RC

2000 250/450 MX Champion
2001 250/450 SX Champion
2001 250/450 MX Champion
2002 250/450 SX Champion
2002 250/450 MX Champion
2003 250/450 SX Champion
2003 250/450 MX Champion

It’s an impressive resume, and he’s only 20.

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ando wrote:

It’s an impressive resume, and he’s only 20.

I agree. He's just getting started and he already has his name next to some legends of the sport. 

There's no telling where he'll end up at the end of his career, but it's going to be fun to watch. 

Twenty years old and on the brink of winning every title in the US. James was twenty-two when he achieved that feat. 

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Theres no way you are changing the path he has gone down. It’s obviously held him in good stead. I do tend to think that had he went 450 last year in SX, he’s winning that too. 

5/6/2024 5:27pm

The future  looks boring.  The only question  will be who gets second.

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5/6/2024 7:46pm Edited Date/Time 5/6/2024 7:48pm

Up until now, I'd been using the Racer X Vault for race results, but I found out that races in the 70's and early 80's usually had 24-25 riders in a main, despite the Vault's results only listing the top 20. Digging through Cycle News, I think I've been able to piece together the missing results. The following races have been added to each rider, and their "16th Race Result" has been changed to reflect this. The only rider who "lost wins" was Broc Glover who's gone from 3 wins to 1. Here are the added results:

Mike Bell
- Unk (1977 Anaheim)
- Unk (1978 Atlanta)

Tony DiStefano
- 22nd (1977 Irving)
- Unk (1977 Los Angeles)

Jimmy Ellis
- 22nd (1977 Houston 1)
- 24th (1977 Irving)

Broc Glover
- Unk (1978 Daytona)
- Unk (1980 Atlanta)

Ron Lechien
- Unk (1983 Pittsburgh)

Jim Pomeroy
- Unk (1978 Daytona)

Marty Smith
- Unk (1977 Daytona)

Jimmy Weinert
- Unk (1977 Pontiac 2)

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Aaron_Hart wrote:
Theres no way you are changing the path he has gone down. It’s obviously held him in good stead. I do tend to think that had...

Theres no way you are changing the path he has gone down. It’s obviously held him in good stead. I do tend to think that had he went 450 last year in SX, he’s winning that too. 

I don't know.  I think going to 450 outdoors first was a great move.  Even though Jett is 99% likely to wrap up the title next week he's made enough rookie mistakes in his first year that would have been compounded if it was his first season on the 450.

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ando wrote:
Assuming Jett wraps up the title next week he will equal a few other legends as well: Joins James Stewart as the only riders to win...

Assuming Jett wraps up the title next week he will equal a few other legends as well:

Joins James Stewart as the only riders to win all five AMA MX and SX titles - 250E and 250W, 250MX, 450MX and 450SX.

Joins Ryan Dungey as the only riders to win titles in both their rookie 450MX and 450SX seasons.

He will sit equal with Barnett, Emig, Bailey and Keidrowski on 4 AMA titles, equal 12th on the all time list.

-MAVERICK- wrote:
-He'll also become the third rookie in history to win the premier SX championship (McGrath in 1993 and Dungey in 2010). *McGrath did six 250/450 SX...

-He'll also become the third rookie in history to win the premier SX championship (McGrath in 1993 and Dungey in 2010).
*McGrath did six 250/450 SX races in 1992 (20-10-6-5-8-6)
*Dungey did three 450 SX races in 2008 (4-10-2)

-He's the only rookie to win his 450 SX debut race (Anaheim 1).

-He'll also join RC on a six-consecutive championship run (seven if you want to include the SMX title). RC has seven consecutive championships, and all were in the 250/450 class. 

Jett

2021 250 MX Champion 
2022 250 SX East Champion
2022 250 MX Champion
2023 250 SX West Champion
2023 450 MX Champion
2023 450 SMX Champion
2024 450 SX Champion 

RC

2000 250/450 MX Champion
2001 250/450 SX Champion
2001 250/450 MX Champion
2002 250/450 SX Champion
2002 250/450 MX Champion
2003 250/450 SX Champion
2003 250/450 MX Champion

Apples to Oranges. Regional Championships are not equal to National Championships. Jett was definitely better that all the riders in the other Region, but still only competed against half of them. Again, can't count a Regional 250 Championship as a National Championship. Just sayin'...

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ando wrote:
Assuming Jett wraps up the title next week he will equal a few other legends as well: Joins James Stewart as the only riders to win...

Assuming Jett wraps up the title next week he will equal a few other legends as well:

Joins James Stewart as the only riders to win all five AMA MX and SX titles - 250E and 250W, 250MX, 450MX and 450SX.

Joins Ryan Dungey as the only riders to win titles in both their rookie 450MX and 450SX seasons.

He will sit equal with Barnett, Emig, Bailey and Keidrowski on 4 AMA titles, equal 12th on the all time list.

-MAVERICK- wrote:
-He'll also become the third rookie in history to win the premier SX championship (McGrath in 1993 and Dungey in 2010). *McGrath did six 250/450 SX...

-He'll also become the third rookie in history to win the premier SX championship (McGrath in 1993 and Dungey in 2010).
*McGrath did six 250/450 SX races in 1992 (20-10-6-5-8-6)
*Dungey did three 450 SX races in 2008 (4-10-2)

-He's the only rookie to win his 450 SX debut race (Anaheim 1).

-He'll also join RC on a six-consecutive championship run (seven if you want to include the SMX title). RC has seven consecutive championships, and all were in the 250/450 class. 

Jett

2021 250 MX Champion 
2022 250 SX East Champion
2022 250 MX Champion
2023 250 SX West Champion
2023 450 MX Champion
2023 450 SMX Champion
2024 450 SX Champion 

RC

2000 250/450 MX Champion
2001 250/450 SX Champion
2001 250/450 MX Champion
2002 250/450 SX Champion
2002 250/450 MX Champion
2003 250/450 SX Champion
2003 250/450 MX Champion

Zoom wrote:
Apples to Oranges. Regional Championships are not equal to National Championships. Jett was definitely better that all the riders in the other Region, but still only...

Apples to Oranges. Regional Championships are not equal to National Championships. Jett was definitely better that all the riders in the other Region, but still only competed against half of them. Again, can't count a Regional 250 Championship as a National Championship. Just sayin'...

If you did count Regional 250 Championships, Jett has two 250/125 SX championships and 13 race wins in 250/125 SX, the same as Jeremy McGrath.

Jett has the same number of AMA 450/250 Motocross Championships as Jeremy McGrath.

Jett's 100% win rate in 450 motocross and 50% win rate in 450 Supercross is impressive for his rookie seasons.

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5/6/2024 8:57pm Edited Date/Time 5/6/2024 11:09pm
mbw479 wrote:
Anyone who thinks he has a bigger ego than McGrath or half the people on this list have their head up their ass. He’s killin it...

Anyone who thinks he has a bigger ego than McGrath or half the people on this list have their head up their ass. He’s killin it 💪🏻

Tumic wrote:
McGrath showed how big his ego is when he went sour hearing that a rider had a goal to beat his win record instead of embracing...

McGrath showed how big his ego is when he went sour hearing that a rider had a goal to beat his win record instead of embracing it and looking classy about it.

McGrath sour? No. He's spoken plenty on this and he's never sounded sour. Then again, it's apparently cool to slander MC these days.

You ever read his book? He pretty much predicted his record would be broken by Stewart. How'd that turn out? I think MC is just cautious about throwing predictions out there again on someone who had yet to complete a supercross season in the premier class.

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ando wrote:
Assuming Jett wraps up the title next week he will equal a few other legends as well: Joins James Stewart as the only riders to win...

Assuming Jett wraps up the title next week he will equal a few other legends as well:

Joins James Stewart as the only riders to win all five AMA MX and SX titles - 250E and 250W, 250MX, 450MX and 450SX.

Joins Ryan Dungey as the only riders to win titles in both their rookie 450MX and 450SX seasons.

He will sit equal with Barnett, Emig, Bailey and Keidrowski on 4 AMA titles, equal 12th on the all time list.

-MAVERICK- wrote:
-He'll also become the third rookie in history to win the premier SX championship (McGrath in 1993 and Dungey in 2010). *McGrath did six 250/450 SX...

-He'll also become the third rookie in history to win the premier SX championship (McGrath in 1993 and Dungey in 2010).
*McGrath did six 250/450 SX races in 1992 (20-10-6-5-8-6)
*Dungey did three 450 SX races in 2008 (4-10-2)

-He's the only rookie to win his 450 SX debut race (Anaheim 1).

-He'll also join RC on a six-consecutive championship run (seven if you want to include the SMX title). RC has seven consecutive championships, and all were in the 250/450 class. 

Jett

2021 250 MX Champion 
2022 250 SX East Champion
2022 250 MX Champion
2023 250 SX West Champion
2023 450 MX Champion
2023 450 SMX Champion
2024 450 SX Champion 

RC

2000 250/450 MX Champion
2001 250/450 SX Champion
2001 250/450 MX Champion
2002 250/450 SX Champion
2002 250/450 MX Champion
2003 250/450 SX Champion
2003 250/450 MX Champion

Gotta remove the super duper cross "championship"  though..

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5/13/2024 8:39pm Edited Date/Time 5/13/2024 9:07pm

Updated and converted to Excel. Also added a Rookie stat comparison for all 450SX Champions. I'm planning to do this for 450MX as well, but it's gonna take some work. The Vault only has full results going to back to 1998, and the Cycle News archives has full results going back to 1990. Before that, I don't have any sources that list results beyond points scoring finishes, but I'll be as thorough as I can.

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5/13/2024 8:56pm

7 more races until Ricky Carmichael appears on the list with his first Supercross win!

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Jett now has four national titles, tied with Emig, Barnett, Bailey and Kiedrowski at 12th on the all time list. 

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Updated and converted to Excel. Also added a Rookie stat comparison for all 450SX Champions. I'm planning to do this for 450MX as well, but it's...

Updated and converted to Excel. Also added a Rookie stat comparison for all 450SX Champions. I'm planning to do this for 450MX as well, but it's gonna take some work. The Vault only has full results going to back to 1998, and the Cycle News archives has full results going back to 1990. Before that, I don't have any sources that list results beyond points scoring finishes, but I'll be as thorough as I can.

You have 7 wins for Jett on the rookie stat sheet.

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You have 7 wins for Jett on the rookie stat sheet.

Ops, thanks for pointing that out. I made the chart a few weeks ago, and forgot to update that. I'll fix it tonight after I get off from work.

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I know this thread is focused on SX, but when you include all races on a 450 his career start is even better:

SX - 17 starts, 8 wins

MX - 11 starts, 11 wins

SMX - 3 starts, 2 wins

MXdN - 2 starts, 1 win

Overall 33 starts, 22 wins.  66% win ratio.  

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ando wrote:
I know this thread is focused on SX, but when you include all races on a 450 his career start is even better: SX - 17...

I know this thread is focused on SX, but when you include all races on a 450 his career start is even better:

SX - 17 starts, 8 wins

MX - 11 starts, 11 wins

SMX - 3 starts, 2 wins

MXdN - 2 starts, 1 win

Overall 33 starts, 22 wins.  66% win ratio.  

He has had 4 mxdn starts for 2 wins on the 450 so I think that actually makes it a 68% win rate

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