Ryder mcnabb with aeo ktm in the states…

studworx wrote:

Gonna break my screen clicking the thumbs up on this. So many amateur parents should read this and give it a real thought. Our series has...

Gonna break my screen clicking the thumbs up on this. So many amateur parents should read this and give it a real thought. Our series has EVERYTHING. From 125 to 450 racing. 
 

Some of our biggest prospects are racing the premix class, you get to race on a track that has 2 pro classes and a WMX class hammering on it, on a small bore 2 stroke with former pros, top prospects, etc. I don’t believe a better developmental class exists outside of EMX obviously. If you can learn to rip a 125 in those conditions you will be very well prepped to transition to the MX2 class. 

-MAVERICK- wrote:

I was going to edit my previous post, but I'll say that I would rather earn one or two 250 Canadian National titles like McNabb than...

I was going to edit my previous post, but I'll say that I would rather earn one or two 250 Canadian National titles like McNabb than one or two B or Pro Sport titles at Loretta's and numerous "national" titles at events like Mini O's.

The reason being, it's contested over 8 or 9 rounds so they race for a national title across 16/18 motos on different types of tracks and against all the fastest riders. 

I don't understand how Mini O's, Spring a Ding, Mammoth, etc., can be classified as amateur national titles. IMO, the only true amateur national in the US is Loretta Lynn's and that's because they have to earn their way there through area/regional qualifiers.

Once there, they get to race against all the fast guys across the country. 

Even then, it's decided over 3 motos on an amateur track. I get that it's an iconic event and the history behind it, but one flat tire, one mechanical, one bad start/pileup, and your chances are over. 

At least up here if any of those things happen, they have a chance to dig themselves out of that hole. 

Racing those amateur nationals and Loretta's does nothing to prepare them to take the next step in their careers. The races are short and the titles are decided over 2 or 3 motos. 

Why else would DC and co., now have the sporting combine and allow them to race some US Nationals and allow them to keep their amateur status if they score less than a certain amount of points. 

IMO, coming up here has more benefits.

-Full length motos

-National caliber tracks 

-They'd learn to race and not just sprint

-They'd learn to manage an actual championship

-They'd learn to deal with pressure/expectations

Sure, it does not have the prestige the US Nationals or MXGP has, but I don't see why it can't be used as a great stepping stone to propel riders to those series. 

People can poke fun and talk shit about the series all they want, but it's still a legit championship. 

As I've already mentioned, the guys at the front in both classes are fast. Wright and Pettis were running in the top 10 in the US last year. Harrison was running in the top 10 for a while at RedBud last year. There some big name guys filling those spots. 

Honestly, I hope McNabb does well enough so that some of these US amateur parents open their eyes and say "okay, this kid is legit and the Canadian series might not be as big of a joke as I thought it was" and then decide to come up here and give it a shot.

IMO, if they can't podium or win up here, they'll have to put in A LOT more work to take the next step in their riding or chances are the US dream won't happen. 

yak651 wrote:

Agree with you 💯 but are the major teams really looking at it that way? Until Pro Circuit, Star, etc start signing riders that have performed...

Agree with you 💯 but are the major teams really looking at it that way? Until Pro Circuit, Star, etc start signing riders that have performed well “up north” I don’t think many are going to consider it a viable path. Hopefully McNabb is successful so people begin to look at the Canadian series in that light.

LouisianaMotocross wrote:

The American system was definitely broken and is just now in the infancy of upgrading. If I had unlimited resources I’d make my kid do a...

The American system was definitely broken and is just now in the infancy of upgrading. If I had unlimited resources I’d make my kid do a year in Europe racing the 125 class. I know the deegans claim they were gonna do that before Covid hit. 

studworx wrote:

His path IMO is what a lot more young amateurs or rookie professionals should do. Rather than waste 2-3 years from 15-18 racing 5 times a...

His path IMO is what a lot more young amateurs or rookie professionals should do. Rather than waste 2-3 years from 15-18 racing 5 times a year, come race our 250 class and experience racing a national series. If you are good, the money is better than what you'll make down there racing amateur races, too (at the top).

He's making his USA debut at 18, which is a perfectly acceptable age. He has 3 years of pro experience and has already learned to manage a real championship, not a 3 moto championship on a Tuesday-Saturday.

-MAVERICK- wrote:

I've been saying that for years. The B and Pro Sport riders from the US should come up here to race our national series. They'll be...

I've been saying that for years. The B and Pro Sport riders from the US should come up here to race our national series. They'll be racing a real championship and not those 2-3 motos at Mini O's, Spring a Ding, Mammoth ...

Heck, even the schoolboy 1/125 riders could come up here to race the premix class. 

They could still race Loretta's if they choose to do so. 

They'll learn a lot more racing our series than doing the same drills and pounding laps at training facilities. The guys at the front are fast, and nothing substitutes gate drops. 

They used to come up here a lot more. I don't know why that changed. Maybe it's related to their teams and/or sponsors, or they have too much pride to come up here and race. 

Ryan Villopoto, Kyle Chisholm, Dean Wilson, Teddy Maier, Sean Hamblin, Austin Politelli, Josh Woods, Nick Evennou, Randy Valade, Tiger Lacey, Ryan Sipes, ... all came up here to race. 

If it's a pride thing, suck it up and think of it as a stepping stone to a bigger goal.

With the exchange rate and how easy the travel schedule is, it makes sense. 

IMO, it would benefit both series. The US amateurs come up here and gain knowledge, skills/racecraft, etc., and our Canadian riders get to elevate their game by racing faster riders. Also, it would perhaps help some of the US amateurs not get thrown to the curb after a season or two of lining up for the US nationals once they make their pro debut. 

The Canadian series benefits from having a deeper field, more eyes on the series, possibly gain more sponsorships, etc.

Our series could sort of be used as an EMX 250 series to develop riders. The close proximity to the border makes this very feasible. 

Then if for whatever reason things don't work out down South after several years, some riders could still come up here to earn a ride and get to race a dirt bike for a living. That or come up and race a few more years when they're older like Alessi, Metcalfe, Goerke, Huffman, Kiniry, Carpenter, ...

IMO, there's no shame in that. 

profeshenal125 wrote:

You covered a lot but there’s much more to cover. 98-03 a ton of American top names raced in Canada. Some surprises Michael Craig 01 _03...

You covered a lot but there’s much more to cover. 98-03 a ton of American top names raced in Canada. Some surprises Michael Craig 01 _03 Blackfoot Honda , Factory Phil, AX champions from when the series was huge etc. A fast 125 rider can race premix 125-150 class & 250 pro am.   Even if ya finish in 15th in 250 pro am.i think it would b a great experience & get you faster. The top 8-10 125 riders r legit top 10 125 emx riders.  I think there speed has something to do with a little ice riding, great corner speed, etc. if you race the 1st 3 rnds July 7,14,21 on a 125 a 10th place rider should b in the top 10 in points. Just stay up there for 3 weeks. Deschaumbault in Quebec 7-28 is like a AM National I think . It’s aprox wed to Sunday. But points r still for premix east & 250 east.  Check vid out intense racing.  Speed looks like 03 125 gp riders.   I just got back from more back injections. I think that’s 9 now or 11. Too many I,m getting sick from them. 

-MAVERICK- wrote:

I've been saying that for years. The B and Pro Sport riders from the US should come up here to race our national series. They'll be...

I've been saying that for years. The B and Pro Sport riders from the US should come up here to race our national series. They'll be racing a real championship and not those 2-3 motos at Mini O's, Spring a Ding, Mammoth ...

Heck, even the schoolboy 1/125 riders could come up here to race the premix class. 

They could still race Loretta's if they choose to do so. 

They'll learn a lot more racing our series than doing the same drills and pounding laps at training facilities. The guys at the front are fast, and nothing substitutes gate drops. 

They used to come up here a lot more. I don't know why that changed. Maybe it's related to their teams and/or sponsors, or they have too much pride to come up here and race. 

Ryan Villopoto, Kyle Chisholm, Dean Wilson, Teddy Maier, Sean Hamblin, Austin Politelli, Josh Woods, Nick Evennou, Randy Valade, Tiger Lacey, Ryan Sipes, ... all came up here to race. 

If it's a pride thing, suck it up and think of it as a stepping stone to a bigger goal.

With the exchange rate and how easy the travel schedule is, it makes sense. 

IMO, it would benefit both series. The US amateurs come up here and gain knowledge, skills/racecraft, etc., and our Canadian riders get to elevate their game by racing faster riders. Also, it would perhaps help some of the US amateurs not get thrown to the curb after a season or two of lining up for the US nationals once they make their pro debut. 

The Canadian series benefits from having a deeper field, more eyes on the series, possibly gain more sponsorships, etc.

Our series could sort of be used as an EMX 250 series to develop riders. The close proximity to the border makes this very feasible. 

Then if for whatever reason things don't work out down South after several years, some riders could still come up here to earn a ride and get to race a dirt bike for a living. That or come up and race a few more years when they're older like Alessi, Metcalfe, Goerke, Huffman, Kiniry, Carpenter, ...

IMO, there's no shame in that. 

profeshenal125 wrote:

You covered a lot but there’s much more to cover. 98-03 a ton of American top names raced in Canada. Some surprises Michael Craig 01 _03...

You covered a lot but there’s much more to cover. 98-03 a ton of American top names raced in Canada. Some surprises Michael Craig 01 _03 Blackfoot Honda , Factory Phil, AX champions from when the series was huge etc. A fast 125 rider can race premix 125-150 class & 250 pro am.   Even if ya finish in 15th in 250 pro am.i think it would b a great experience & get you faster. The top 8-10 125 riders r legit top 10 125 emx riders.  I think there speed has something to do with a little ice riding, great corner speed, etc. if you race the 1st 3 rnds July 7,14,21 on a 125 a 10th place rider should b in the top 10 in points. Just stay up there for 3 weeks. Deschaumbault in Quebec 7-28 is like a AM National I think . It’s aprox wed to Sunday. But points r still for premix east & 250 east.  Check vid out intense racing.  Speed looks like 03 125 gp riders.   I just got back from more back injections. I think that’s 9 now or 11. Too many I,m getting sick from them. 

profeshenal125 wrote:

That’s Brennan Schofield in 6th on the yz. The kid that protested Deegan at LL.  He’s fast kinda gives you an idea of there speed. 

profeshenal125 wrote:

You covered a lot but there’s much more to cover. 98-03 a ton of American top names raced in Canada. Some surprises Michael Craig 01 _03...

You covered a lot but there’s much more to cover. 98-03 a ton of American top names raced in Canada. Some surprises Michael Craig 01 _03 Blackfoot Honda , Factory Phil, AX champions from when the series was huge etc. A fast 125 rider can race premix 125-150 class & 250 pro am.   Even if ya finish in 15th in 250 pro am.i think it would b a great experience & get you faster. The top 8-10 125 riders r legit top 10 125 emx riders.  I think there speed has something to do with a little ice riding, great corner speed, etc. if you race the 1st 3 rnds July 7,14,21 on a 125 a 10th place rider should b in the top 10 in points. Just stay up there for 3 weeks. Deschaumbault in Quebec 7-28 is like a AM National I think . It’s aprox wed to Sunday. But points r still for premix east & 250 east.  Check vid out intense racing.  Speed looks like 03 125 gp riders.   I just got back from more back injections. I think that’s 9 now or 11. Too many I,m getting sick from them. 

profeshenal125 wrote:

That’s Brennan Schofield in 6th on the yz. The kid that protested Deegan at LL.  He’s fast kinda gives you an idea of there speed. 

stremme12 wrote:

Deegan was never protested at LL. 

profeshenal125 wrote:

That’s Brennan Schofield in 6th on the yz. The kid that protested Deegan at LL.  He’s fast kinda gives you an idea of there speed. 

stremme12 wrote:

Deegan was never protested at LL. 

yak651 wrote:

Well he was until he wasn’t…

profeshenal125 wrote:

You covered a lot but there’s much more to cover. 98-03 a ton of American top names raced in Canada. Some surprises Michael Craig 01 _03...

You covered a lot but there’s much more to cover. 98-03 a ton of American top names raced in Canada. Some surprises Michael Craig 01 _03 Blackfoot Honda , Factory Phil, AX champions from when the series was huge etc. A fast 125 rider can race premix 125-150 class & 250 pro am.   Even if ya finish in 15th in 250 pro am.i think it would b a great experience & get you faster. The top 8-10 125 riders r legit top 10 125 emx riders.  I think there speed has something to do with a little ice riding, great corner speed, etc. if you race the 1st 3 rnds July 7,14,21 on a 125 a 10th place rider should b in the top 10 in points. Just stay up there for 3 weeks. Deschaumbault in Quebec 7-28 is like a AM National I think . It’s aprox wed to Sunday. But points r still for premix east & 250 east.  Check vid out intense racing.  Speed looks like 03 125 gp riders.   I just got back from more back injections. I think that’s 9 now or 11. Too many I,m getting sick from them. 

profeshenal125 wrote:

That’s Brennan Schofield in 6th on the yz. The kid that protested Deegan at LL.  He’s fast kinda gives you an idea of there speed. 

stremme12 wrote:

Deegan was never protested at LL. 

profeshenal125 wrote:

That’s Brennan Schofield in 6th on the yz. The kid that protested Deegan at LL.  He’s fast kinda gives you an idea of there speed. 

stremme12 wrote:

Deegan was never protested at LL. 

profeshenal125 wrote:

He put the money down at LL to buy his Star factory bike.  2 -3 yrs ago it was kinda of a big story. 

profeshenal125 wrote:

A full on factory bike in B class is what ? It’s like me running the DBP 125 in Canada. Lol

A full on factory bike in B class is what ? It’s like me running the DBP 125 in Canada. Lol

profeshenal125 wrote:

Xmas Mi. Track has a money moto race open to a& b riders. Similar to a 250 Canadian race. With a full gate. Everyone raves about...

Xmas Mi. Track has a money moto race open to a& b riders. Similar to a 250 Canadian race. With a full gate. Everyone raves about the loamy sand & great layout.  This is a track that should b added to the Canadian series. Technically if you race in 2 countries Ottawa world championship. 

lumpy790 wrote:

Why does another country’s 3 time #1 Pro racer that races for 2 factory teams have to start over and race in the futures class? Sorry...

Why does another country’s 3 time #1 Pro racer that races for 2 factory teams have to start over and race in the futures class?

Sorry but that makes no sense whatsoever. 

eddie wrote:

How old is Adams and what class is he racing this year ? 

eddie wrote:

How old is Adams and what class is he racing this year ? 

uncledaddy69 wrote:

He looked solid in practice. Looking forward to seeing him go up against Drew Adams, Towers, Cochran, and the NZ kid tonight. 

-MAVERICK- wrote:

Turns 16 tomorrow. Not sure which class he's racing. 

-MAVERICK- wrote:

Turns 16 tomorrow. Not sure which class he's racing. 

eddie wrote:

Time for some long motos … Canada and A class for LL … that’s the ticket …