Aldon Baker's forearm tool

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Edited Date/Time 5/3/2016 9:55pm
I caught the forearm tool that had a few commercials on during the race. Seemed an interesting concept; would like to see some data that supports the increase in grip strength over time. BTW, does Aldon ride at all?
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What was the last Pyramid scheme He was trying to sell ? Monavie ?

MonaVie is a now defunct multi-level marketing (MLM) company that manufactured and distributed products made from blended fruit juice concentrates, ...

I don't blame him for trying to be the next Ty-Bo or px90 , just kind of seems kind of scammy.
GeorgiePorgie 3/6/2016 8:22am
3/6/2016 8:22am Edited Date/Time 3/6/2016 8:23am
Those guys are so fit they look sick. I never thought aldon was so short either. Forearm tool.... Don't the top guys grip with core and legs. Arms are generally loose.
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I remember reading somewhere that it was an old pro that came up with the idea and all that and asked Aldon to test it for him. Aldon is just helping to market the product.
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Lee Ramage is the owner/inventor. He should be along shortly to explain how it works. It is similar to having a massage therapist work on the Facia tissue.

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Pornhub looks like a better forearm tool to me
YellowZonker 3/6/2016 9:14am
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From my understanding it uses ART to stretch the facia in the arm. It does basically the same thing as a chiro that uses ART without having to pay someone to come to all the races with you.
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Don't knock it until you try it, it REALLY does work ! Aldon doesn't own it, he only realizes that it can help, so he endorses it and his riders use it. I believe Webb and several other top guys are using it too.

Bunch of negative Nancies on here, always looking to talk shit, even though they know nothing about it.
Dirty Britches 3/6/2016 10:57am
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500guy wrote:
What was the last Pyramid scheme He was trying to sell ? Monavie ? MonaVie is a now defunct multi-level marketing (MLM) company that manufactured and...
What was the last Pyramid scheme He was trying to sell ? Monavie ?

MonaVie is a now defunct multi-level marketing (MLM) company that manufactured and distributed products made from blended fruit juice concentrates, ...

I don't blame him for trying to be the next Ty-Bo or px90 , just kind of seems kind of scammy.
It's not so much the product, but the way it's sold.
If I can't buy it in the store/online, and have to buy from a "distributer", forget it.
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Dirty Britches wrote:
It's not so much the product, but the way it's sold. If I can't buy it in the store/online, and have to buy from a "distributer"...
It's not so much the product, but the way it's sold.
If I can't buy it in the store/online, and have to buy from a "distributer", forget it.
You can buy it straight from 4 arm strong. Seems about 5x the price it really should be for lexan and a thumb screw.
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500guy wrote:
What was the last Pyramid scheme He was trying to sell ? Monavie ? MonaVie is a now defunct multi-level marketing (MLM) company that manufactured and...
What was the last Pyramid scheme He was trying to sell ? Monavie ?

MonaVie is a now defunct multi-level marketing (MLM) company that manufactured and distributed products made from blended fruit juice concentrates, ...

I don't blame him for trying to be the next Ty-Bo or px90 , just kind of seems kind of scammy.
Dirty Britches wrote:
It's not so much the product, but the way it's sold. If I can't buy it in the store/online, and have to buy from a "distributer"...
It's not so much the product, but the way it's sold.
If I can't buy it in the store/online, and have to buy from a "distributer", forget it.
Yes, but you will never walk the beaches of the world buying it from Wal Mart. Eagle the dream, eagle the dream.Laughing
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PVC pipe cut in 1/2?
C clamp?

Gonna go try it tomorrow.
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Cygnus wrote:
Lee Ramage is the owner/inventor. He should be along shortly to explain how it works. It is similar to having a massage therapist work on the...
Lee Ramage is the owner/inventor. He should be along shortly to explain how it works. It is similar to having a massage therapist work on the Facia tissue.
Yup

Matt Goerke swears by it...won the Canadian Title using it!
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mb wrote:
PVC pipe cut in 1/2?
C clamp?

Gonna go try it tomorrow.
Yeah, exactly the same thing.

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Dtat720 3/6/2016 1:22pm
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Heck, even if i cnc a billy badass one from aluminum it still would only cost me about $20 to make. And it wouldnt be plastic

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KennyT 3/6/2016 1:34pm
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Well why don't all of you manufacturing geniuses make your own and tell us how it works. You won't be the first people to steal someone else's idea and attempt to make your own and then bitch that it is worthless. I have ZERO interest in this product and quite honestly can't stand Aldon Baker but I have heard nothing but positives about this cure for arm pump
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Motofinne 3/6/2016 1:37pm
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So it does work? I would love to try one before buying one though since the device isn't that cheap.
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YellowZonker wrote:
From my understanding it uses ART to stretch the facia in the arm. It does basically the same thing as a chiro that uses ART without...
From my understanding it uses ART to stretch the facia in the arm. It does basically the same thing as a chiro that uses ART without having to pay someone to come to all the races with you.
That is almost correct. 4Arm Strong isn't ART as ART can only be performed by a human, however I invented it based on ART. It shouldn't be far fetched to believe a device was developed to create similar tension and traction on tissue as the thumb. As an ART certified therapist I put this theory to the test and invented the 4Arm Strong. ART is the acronym for "Active Release Techniques" which is an advanced certification used to treat tissue (muscles, tendons, fascia.) "Active" means the client or patient is actively moving themselves through a series of stretches while the therapist is tractioning the tissue in the opposite direction. Before the 4Arm Strong I was treating riders for arm pump and grip strength using my hands (thumbs primarily) and my treatments were very successful. I treated Broc Tickle, Ken Roczen, Matt Goerke to name a few and all were very happy with the results. The only issue was my treatments worked best the day of, before they rode. So when the traveled to a race and I didn't go, the results weren't as good a few days later. That is why I invented the 4Arm Strong. Many of the top riders are using it and many more local pros and weekend warriors. I will never promise it will work for everyone, as no one product will, however I haven't heard one negative report back yet. The testimonies are anywhere to totally relieving arm pump to taking the edge off so it is tolerable. I highly encourage every rider to use it whether they get arm pump or not. The grip strength benefit is in of itself and very positive benefit for an MX racer. Here is a video interview with Aldon by TransworldMX and his one minute commercial.

http://motocross.transworld.net/videos/whats-4arm-strong-aldon-explains…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb5LzC9p4_k
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Cygnus wrote:
Lee Ramage is the owner/inventor. He should be along shortly to explain how it works. It is similar to having a massage therapist work on the...
Lee Ramage is the owner/inventor. He should be along shortly to explain how it works. It is similar to having a massage therapist work on the Facia tissue.
TeamGreen wrote:
Yup

Matt Goerke swears by it...won the Canadian Title using it!
Can you (or anyone) say how long it takes to work? Days? Weeks? months? I suffer from terrible arm pump when I'm on the track (desert riding, I seem to be ok but I'm not working the forearms as hard when riding desert). It comes from lifting weights all my life since I was about 12. I've been conditioning my arms to pump up when lifting as opposed to the opposite - which is what we want when riding dirtbikes.
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4Arm Strong isn't ART as ART can only be performed by a human, however I invented it based on ART. It shouldn't be far fetched to believe a device was developed to create similar tension and traction on tissue as the thumb. As an ART certified therapist I put this theory to the test and invented the 4Arm Strong. ART is the acronym for "Active Release Techniques" which is an advanced certification used to treat tissue (muscles, tendons, fascia.) "Active" means the client or patient is actively moving themselves through a series of stretches while the therapist is tractioning the tissue in the opposite direction. Before the 4Arm Strong I was treating riders for arm pump and grip strength using my hands (thumbs primarily) and my treatments were very successful. I treated Broc Tickle, Ken Roczen, Matt Goerke to name a few and all were very happy with the results. The only issue was my treatments worked best the day of, before they rode. So when the traveled to a race and I didn't go, the results weren't as good a few days later. That is why I invented the 4Arm Strong. Many of the top riders are using it and many more local pros and weekend warriors. I will never promise it will work for everyone, as no one product will, however I haven't heard one negative report back yet. The testimonies are anywhere to totally relieving arm pump to taking the edge off so it is tolerable. I highly encourage every rider to use it whether they get arm pump or not. The grip strength benefit is in of itself and very positive benefit for an MX racer. Here is a video interview with Aldon by TransworldMX and his one minute commercial.

http://motocross.transworld.net/videos/whats-4arm-strong-aldon-explains…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb5LzC9p4_k
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Cygnus wrote:
Lee Ramage is the owner/inventor. He should be along shortly to explain how it works. It is similar to having a massage therapist work on the...
Lee Ramage is the owner/inventor. He should be along shortly to explain how it works. It is similar to having a massage therapist work on the Facia tissue.
TeamGreen wrote:
Yup

Matt Goerke swears by it...won the Canadian Title using it!
TbonesPop wrote:
Can you (or anyone) say how long it takes to work? Days? Weeks? months? I suffer from terrible arm pump when I'm on the track (desert...
Can you (or anyone) say how long it takes to work? Days? Weeks? months? I suffer from terrible arm pump when I'm on the track (desert riding, I seem to be ok but I'm not working the forearms as hard when riding desert). It comes from lifting weights all my life since I was about 12. I've been conditioning my arms to pump up when lifting as opposed to the opposite - which is what we want when riding dirtbikes.
4Arm Strong works the first use for some people and a a few uses to others. Your hands should feel loose and free the first time. You are correct about weight lifting. There are ways to lift without loading your forearm muscles to keep them from activating too much. The bigger your forearm muscles get, the more likely you will get arm pump riding.
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TeamGreen wrote:
Yup

Matt Goerke swears by it...won the Canadian Title using it!
TbonesPop wrote:
Can you (or anyone) say how long it takes to work? Days? Weeks? months? I suffer from terrible arm pump when I'm on the track (desert...
Can you (or anyone) say how long it takes to work? Days? Weeks? months? I suffer from terrible arm pump when I'm on the track (desert riding, I seem to be ok but I'm not working the forearms as hard when riding desert). It comes from lifting weights all my life since I was about 12. I've been conditioning my arms to pump up when lifting as opposed to the opposite - which is what we want when riding dirtbikes.
4Arm Strong wrote:
4Arm Strong works the first use for some people and a a few uses to others. Your hands should feel loose and free the first time...
4Arm Strong works the first use for some people and a a few uses to others. Your hands should feel loose and free the first time. You are correct about weight lifting. There are ways to lift without loading your forearm muscles to keep them from activating too much. The bigger your forearm muscles get, the more likely you will get arm pump riding.
Thanks. I hear ya on the forearm strength and size. I won multiple arm wrestling contests in college and my forearms are friggin popeye's. I'm dying to try anything that will help.

At one time, there was a discount code for Vital members. Does that still exist? I'm a seriously good case study. If it works for me, I'll be your biggest advocate.
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Joko wrote:
I caught the forearm tool that had a few commercials on during the race. Seemed an interesting concept; would like to see some data that supports...
I caught the forearm tool that had a few commercials on during the race. Seemed an interesting concept; would like to see some data that supports the increase in grip strength over time. BTW, does Aldon ride at all?
Almost everyone I have measured grip strength with a dynamometer has increased their grip strength the first time they used it. I personally increased form 101 lbs to 140 lbs in one week. When I was working with the prototypes a thought dawned on me, that if 4Arm Strong was going to work to reduce arm pump, it should increase grip strength too. After all, losing grip strength is what happens when you get arm pump. So I ordered an Dynamometer and these results were why I kept moving forward developing the product. My grip strength increased immediately. Also, it is common for riders with limited ROM after wrist surgery to lose grip strength. All that have used the 4Arm Strong have gained back quite a bit back. When your wrist ROM is limited you will lose much of your grip strength because that is the motion you need to keep it at normal levels. Charlie Mullins, Matt Goerke, Ricky Johnson, Steward Baylor are all riders that have increased their grip strength with limited wrist ROM.
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TbonesPop wrote:
Can you (or anyone) say how long it takes to work? Days? Weeks? months? I suffer from terrible arm pump when I'm on the track (desert...
Can you (or anyone) say how long it takes to work? Days? Weeks? months? I suffer from terrible arm pump when I'm on the track (desert riding, I seem to be ok but I'm not working the forearms as hard when riding desert). It comes from lifting weights all my life since I was about 12. I've been conditioning my arms to pump up when lifting as opposed to the opposite - which is what we want when riding dirtbikes.
4Arm Strong wrote:
4Arm Strong works the first use for some people and a a few uses to others. Your hands should feel loose and free the first time...
4Arm Strong works the first use for some people and a a few uses to others. Your hands should feel loose and free the first time. You are correct about weight lifting. There are ways to lift without loading your forearm muscles to keep them from activating too much. The bigger your forearm muscles get, the more likely you will get arm pump riding.
TbonesPop wrote:
Thanks. I hear ya on the forearm strength and size. I won multiple arm wrestling contests in college and my forearms are friggin popeye's. I'm dying...
Thanks. I hear ya on the forearm strength and size. I won multiple arm wrestling contests in college and my forearms are friggin popeye's. I'm dying to try anything that will help.

At one time, there was a discount code for Vital members. Does that still exist? I'm a seriously good case study. If it works for me, I'll be your biggest advocate.
Yes, you would be a good test case. I don't offer discount codes any longer. When I had the $50 off code on another thread the retail price was $190. Now it is $159. $190 wasn't a good price however I am shipping them everyday, all over the world at $159 so we found the right price point.
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4Arm Strong wrote:
Yes, you would be a good test case. I don't offer discount codes any longer. When I had the $50 off code on another thread the...
Yes, you would be a good test case. I don't offer discount codes any longer. When I had the $50 off code on another thread the retail price was $190. Now it is $159. $190 wasn't a good price however I am shipping them everyday, all over the world at $159 so we found the right price point.
Got it thanks. I'll be picking one up. I couldn't remember what the price or discount was at the time.
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That's a good price in America but in AUD that $215 plus shipping so probably $250 that's not reasonable.
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Helder wrote:
That's a good price in America but in AUD that $215 plus shipping so probably $250 that's not reasonable.
Well I guess it depends on how bad you need it. As well, if you compare the cost to paying a therapist it pays for itself pretty quickly even at your exchange. MX riders are paying $500 for boots, $500 for helmets, $1000 for suspension mods. Buying a 4Arm Strong seem insignificant compared to all the other items they buy.

By the way, I ship several 4Arm Strongs to Australia every month.

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