is Matthes right, RV will be the first reigning AMA champion to go compete in the GP"s?

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Is Matthes right?
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Forza 11/2/2014 2:20pm
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You tell us. You should be a expert after starting 3 threads on the subject.
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lostboy819 11/2/2014 2:23pm
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Marty Smith was the 1975 125 national champ and then he tried to ride both the 1976 AMA series and the world championship and he ended up losing both that year. 2nd in the AMA and 3rd in the world championship.
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Yes, he's the first reigning AMA Supercross champion to go compete in GPs.

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newmann 11/2/2014 4:34pm
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Was Bad Brad not 500cc Champ in 72? Was that not AMA sanctioned?
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Dumbgeon!
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Don't care. Just knowing that our best guy is gonna give it a go is frikkin awesome. Both sides of the pond are in for a good'n.
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lostboy819 11/2/2014 11:08pm
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Was Bad Brad not 500cc Champ in 72? Was that not AMA sanctioned?
Yes, it was AMA and he went to the so GPs in 73 so he and Marty Smith were both reigning champs when they did the GPs.
The 250s and 500s were sanctioned in 1971 and then the 125s in 1974. You have got to love MXA they have it all so I don't have to remember.
http://motocrossactionmag.com/category/more-stuff/every-champ
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kongols 11/2/2014 11:10pm
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He` not reigning champion. Roczen is.
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lostboy819 11/2/2014 11:13pm
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RV is the SX champ so he is a reigning AMA champ.
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aaryn #234 11/3/2014 12:23am
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Can we agree that Villipoto will be the first Reigning World Supercross Champion to enter the World Motocross Championship?
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Lightning78 11/3/2014 12:44am
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What about Danny Laporte? Pretty sure he did it too
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Julian 11/3/2014 2:17am
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1 Kawi factory rider wins AMA title.
2 Kawi tells their reigning champ to defend title the next year
3 reigning champ tells Kawi no, says he has “new challenge"
4 Kawi, not happy, asks “what new challenge”?
5 reigning champ says GP’s
6 after some time Kawi agrees to help reigning AMA champ in GP's
7 reigning champ packs bags for the GP’s
8 reigning champ to retire after the US round of the GP’s


you can click here to read all about it from (I think Steve M.)http://racerxonline.com/2009/02/25/between-the-motos-brad-lackey
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Julian 11/3/2014 3:18am
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lostboy819 wrote:
Marty Smith was the 1975 125 national champ and then he tried to ride both the 1976 AMA series and the world championship and he ended...
Marty Smith was the 1975 125 national champ and then he tried to ride both the 1976 AMA series and the world championship and he ended up losing both that year. 2nd in the AMA and 3rd in the world championship.
thanks lostbox819 for reminding me.

How did (Matthes) and I forget my teen idol, yes, besides Lackey, Marty Smith, the reigning AMA MX champ also went the very next year to compete in the entire GP series.

I guess it did not occur to me since Marty ALSO competed in the USA Nationals the same year.

Notice Marty's hair - all sun bleached from the warm SoCal sun, Riders back then had WAY MORE free time to hang out at the beach.

below photos from Laubuseschbach, German round, https://www.google.pl/maps/@50.3973415,8.3361766,3207m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl…

photos provided by: http://oscarapparel.blogspot.com/2010_10_01_archive.html

You see Marty, his future wife Nancy Sauer, and the Type II Honda

You see Marty standing next to guy holding sign with "DSSR". The entire sign reads "UDSSR" which is "USSR" in German. I wonder if Marty even knew those riders to his right were Ruskis - and that was 1976 - DEEP in the cold war era.

You see the 1976 Type II 125, http://www.mxworksbike.com/index.php/reference/restorations/21-restorat…










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Julian 11/3/2014 3:25am
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Lightning78 wrote:
What about Danny Laporte? Pretty sure he did it too
but was Danny a "reigning champ" as Steve refers to?

I think we have discovered only TWO so far that Steve missed.

By the way Steve - I understand you basically meant reigning MX champion when you made the comment and in my mind this means SX or MX, so yes, RV will be number three on that list.

Did I miss anyone else or were there only TWO before RV?

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peelout 11/3/2014 8:07am
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Julian wrote:
Is Matthes right?
your hard-on for trying to prove RV or whoever wrong about something is very awkward, bro

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Why can't Steve Methiss produce a quality motocross bike?
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Lightning78 wrote:
What about Danny Laporte? Pretty sure he did it too
Laporte was AMA MX champion (500cc) in 1978, and went in Europe full-time in 1982 (250 GPs).
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mxrose3 11/3/2014 11:10am
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It just amazes me that some people don't know the history of our sport and then go yapping publicly about what they think they know.
In 20 years, nobody will know what Villapoto, RC, or McGrath accomplished either. Good job.
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O___o 11/3/2014 11:19am
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mxrose3 wrote:
It just amazes me that some people don't know the history of our sport and then go yapping publicly about what they think they know. In...
It just amazes me that some people don't know the history of our sport and then go yapping publicly about what they think they know.
In 20 years, nobody will know what Villapoto, RC, or McGrath accomplished either. Good job.
Dude complaining about the ineptitude of the average MX fan, and spells Villopoto wrong in the same sentence.
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mxrose3 11/3/2014 11:26am
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mxrose3 wrote:
It just amazes me that some people don't know the history of our sport and then go yapping publicly about what they think they know. In...
It just amazes me that some people don't know the history of our sport and then go yapping publicly about what they think they know.
In 20 years, nobody will know what Villapoto, RC, or McGrath accomplished either. Good job.
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Dude complaining about the ineptitude of the average MX fan, and spells Villopoto wrong in the same sentence.
FWIW I spell Alessi wrong half the time too
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jeffro503 11/3/2014 11:27am
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Kinda weird that some of you think today's riders should be historians about their sport. I bet if you were to go to any football , baseball , basketball , ect team player......and ask him who did what....so many years ago.....99% couldn't give you a legit answer.

If I was in RV's shoes.......I wouldn't give two shits about what some other guy , racing for some other team 30-40yrs ago did. I'd be focusing on how to get myself ready for round one of the GP's and come out swinging.
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mxrose3 11/3/2014 11:30am
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My point is (and I think this is what Julian was getting at).... Members of the media should know these facts.
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mxrose3 wrote:
My point is (and I think this is what Julian was getting at).... Members of the media should know these facts.
100% agree.
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jeffro503 11/3/2014 11:49am
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mxrose3 wrote:
My point is (and I think this is what Julian was getting at).... Members of the media should know these facts.
True to a point......but Steve's show is live and mostly just shoots stuff from the hip. It's not like writing an article where he has time to study facts and so forth........it's live , it's happening right now. And instead of telling everyone to " Hold on a minute , I need to look all this up ".......he gave it his best shot.

We all love the sport......just that some are better historians at it than others. People that bitch about it on here........did you really know ALL THE FACTS? Or did you have to look them up? People need to look in the mirror before they ask themselves that question. Why burn Steve at the stake?
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mxrose3 11/3/2014 12:46pm
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mxrose3 wrote:
My point is (and I think this is what Julian was getting at).... Members of the media should know these facts.
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True to a point......but Steve's show is live and mostly just shoots stuff from the hip. It's not like writing an article where he has time...
True to a point......but Steve's show is live and mostly just shoots stuff from the hip. It's not like writing an article where he has time to study facts and so forth........it's live , it's happening right now. And instead of telling everyone to " Hold on a minute , I need to look all this up ".......he gave it his best shot.

We all love the sport......just that some are better historians at it than others. People that bitch about it on here........did you really know ALL THE FACTS? Or did you have to look them up? People need to look in the mirror before they ask themselves that question. Why burn Steve at the stake?
Ok, maybe I came across a little harsh there.
IMO If someone from the media isn't sure about something on a live show, I think they should open it up for anyone that knows for sure to clarify it, instead of stating it as fact.

I had forgotten about Marty Smith, but being a Brad Lackey fan ever since he set out to be World Champion.... yes I knew that fact. Oh - And I'm not a fan of rider nicknames being re-used 20 years later either... but thats just me.

I'm still a Matthes fan... I love his show, and follow his twitter/instagram.


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jeffro503 11/3/2014 1:16pm
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mxrose3 wrote:
My point is (and I think this is what Julian was getting at).... Members of the media should know these facts.
jeffro503 wrote:
True to a point......but Steve's show is live and mostly just shoots stuff from the hip. It's not like writing an article where he has time...
True to a point......but Steve's show is live and mostly just shoots stuff from the hip. It's not like writing an article where he has time to study facts and so forth........it's live , it's happening right now. And instead of telling everyone to " Hold on a minute , I need to look all this up ".......he gave it his best shot.

We all love the sport......just that some are better historians at it than others. People that bitch about it on here........did you really know ALL THE FACTS? Or did you have to look them up? People need to look in the mirror before they ask themselves that question. Why burn Steve at the stake?
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Ok, maybe I came across a little harsh there. IMO If someone from the media isn't sure about something on a live show, I think they...
Ok, maybe I came across a little harsh there.
IMO If someone from the media isn't sure about something on a live show, I think they should open it up for anyone that knows for sure to clarify it, instead of stating it as fact.

I had forgotten about Marty Smith, but being a Brad Lackey fan ever since he set out to be World Champion.... yes I knew that fact. Oh - And I'm not a fan of rider nicknames being re-used 20 years later either... but thats just me.

I'm still a Matthes fan... I love his show, and follow his twitter/instagram.


I hear ya man. My point wasn't directed at just you. It's the mentality of some of the other board members here that get carried away and would just as soon string someone up for something so small. I started following the sport religiously in about 79' - 80'. I read my dirtbike mags from cover to cover ( same could be said about my cycle news ). I used to be a wealth of knowledge about all things moto......but I'm getting older and forget certain facts. Light bulbs go off in my head when i read some of the stuff here.

Hard for me to slam anyone for not remembering things that happened 20 , 30 or even 40yrs ago. I sure enjoy reading about it again though.

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