8/20/2008 12:42 PM
'09 Hondas?
mxracer32Posts: 308 Joined: 12/06/2007 Location: |
i wouldnt be concerned with HP numbers as much as HP to weight ratio...
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RCC104Posts: 49 Joined: 5/17/2007 Location: |
8/20/2008 12:55 PM Besides everything thats already been mentioned I've also heard the CRF450 is going to lose A LOT of weight....
if its as much as I heard I'm definitely ditching the YZF |
TheWeaponPosts: 127 Joined: 7/05/2008 Location: |
8/20/2008 1:03 PM
i wouldnt be concerned with HP numbers as much as HP to weight ratio... Actually there is some news that the new 250f Husky has the lightest 250F engine ever, and the bike will have a dry weight of 92kg....which puts it at the same or less than the Jap bikes. Not that I'd buy a Husky....
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ratonmaciasPosts: 34 Joined: 4/01/2008 Location: |
8/20/2008 1:19 PM
As a side note, Husky is releasing a 310cc 4stroke for '09.....I wonder if the HP numbers compare to the jap 250F's.....
i wouldnt be concerned with HP numbers as much as HP to weight ratio...
Actually there is some news that the new 250f Husky has the lightest 250F engine ever, and the bike will have a dry weight of 92kg....which puts it at the same or less than the Jap bikes. Not that I'd buy a Husky.... yes new engine for the tc and te 250 bikes but the 310 is the older engine with a big bore kit and steel valves as light as the queen mary's anchor.
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davis224Posts: 736 Joined: 8/15/2006 Location: |
8/20/2008 2:07 PM Edited Date/Time:
8/20/2008 2:08 PM the only 09 mx bike I've seen so far at the dealer I work for is the KX250f, still haven't uncrated it yet. I'll be sure to rip the crate apart and take super secret insider cell phone pics if any hondas come in soon though.
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drummer dudePosts: 78 Joined: 5/02/2008 Location: |
8/20/2008 2:21 PM
I want an 09 CR500AF !
Wrong!!!!
Youre both wrong!!! Make that a suzuki. yes,a rm250af would be the ultimate. throw in the gold rims.swwwwweeeeeeettttt!!!!!
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al990Posts: 32 Joined: 8/11/2008 Location: |
8/20/2008 3:06 PM
Anyone heard when they will be released? Spy pics?
ive heard honda here in norway have a picture but they cant show it to anyone..honda always wait so long on releasing thoe pics of the great bike.
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ProMedPosts: 1301 Joined: 9/11/2006 Location: |
8/20/2008 4:18 PM
Besides everything thats already been mentioned I've also heard the CRF450 is going to lose A LOT of weight....
Where did you hear that from?
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motoman0Posts: 185 Joined: 5/11/2008 Location: |
8/20/2008 5:04 PM Remember when you went LL to see the new bikes........Those were the days!
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MotodorkPosts: 36 Joined: 8/16/2006 Location: |
8/20/2008 5:11 PM the 09 yamaha is already in dealers in our area
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todderPosts: 975 Joined: 10/20/2006 Location: |
8/20/2008 5:18 PM Edited Date/Time:
8/20/2008 5:18 PM
The manager of the factory Honda team in europe said this- "The bike for next year is fantastic, I think it will surprise a lot of people- it is something completely different and i think we will be able to compare it to the introduction of the aluminium-framed bike." Sounds good. What else would he say? The 09's are sort of crappy?
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Active RidePosts: 101 Joined: 8/16/2006 Location: |
8/20/2008 5:35 PM Nothing makes me laugh more than "I heard" on a message board.
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FLmxerPosts: 192 Joined: 8/16/2006 Location: |
8/20/2008 5:37 PM Wasn't the 97 - 98 CR 250 voted the most dangerous design due to the super rigid POS frame that would vibrate so hard you would get arm pump before the gate dropped. It had a strong motor but the high-siding POS caused more injuries than all the other brands combined. A few pro's would not even ride it especially MC. He said that bike would end his career. You could case a jump over and over on another brand but case that same jump on one of those two bikes and break an ankle or shatter your heels. I hope it is not like those years bike. I can't wait to see the new Honda. I will finaly be healed enough to ride by then and might want to get back on a fresh new bike.
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rc4187Posts: 104 Joined: 4/01/2008 Location: |
8/20/2008 5:49 PM
Wasn't the 97 - 98 CR 250 voted the most dangerous design due to the super rigid POS frame that would vibrate so hard you would get arm pump before the gate dropped. It had a strong motor but the high-siding POS caused more injuries than all the other brands combined. A few pro's would not even ride it especially MC. He said that bike would end his career. You could case a jump over and over on another brand but case that same jump on one of those two bikes and break an ankle or shatter your heels. I hope it is not like those years bike. I can't wait to see the new Honda. I will finaly be healed enough to ride by then and might want to get back on a fresh new bike. i had a '98 and cased many jumps... ankles still intact
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FLmxerPosts: 192 Joined: 8/16/2006 Location: |
8/20/2008 6:30 PM I had one and raced it every weekend for a while and did well but it really was way to rigid. The motor was really good and that made up for it for me.
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xnationalwrenchPosts: 331 Joined: 2/17/2008 Location: |
8/20/2008 6:46 PM
Remember when you went LL to see the new bikes........Those were the days! Back in the day all you had to do was go to Saddleback and see the R&D teams testing the next years models.
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kawasa84Posts: 84 Joined: 6/07/2008 Location: |
8/20/2008 7:22 PM Factory Photo is saying one of the rumors for the 09 Honda's is Kayaba suspension??? I believe Honda owns a large interest in the Showa company. Does that mean they're saying their own company can't compete with KYB? Please someone give me some feedback.
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zippy895Posts: 166 Joined: 7/15/2008 Location: |
8/20/2008 7:31 PM |
FactoryphotoPosts: 248 Joined: 4/01/2008 Location: |
8/20/2008 9:08 PM Says it right here bro..
<CRF450R> ● エンジン Honda独創のメカニズムであり、コンパクトなエンジンを実現したユニカムバルブトレインを引き続き採用しながら、低・中速、伸び領域のドライバビリティー向上を図るため、ギアポジションセンサーを新たに追加。各ギアで最適な点火時期のコントロールを実現。またクランクシャフトの軽量化や、クラッチアウターおよびクラッチセンターに二硫化モリブデンコート処理を施すなど、細部にわたって改良を実施している。 j/k its just a strong rumor nobody knows shizzle until press release. |
andymotoPosts: 1358 Joined: 11/28/2007 Location: |
8/20/2008 9:36 PM Believe Hondas done the el suspension swappo before.....Might've been on two stroke 125....? Talkin' long while back....10-15 yr ago.....Or Suzook did it...Take your pick.
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GuyBPosts: 2603 Joined: 7/10/2006 Location: |
8/20/2008 9:39 PM The new Hondas have _______________, _______________, and now boast _______ horsepower. They also have an all-new ______________, and come stock from the factory with ___________________.
(No, I don't have any more info or photos than you guys. I'm still awaiting my '09 press kit.) |
rockcrawlerdudePosts: 2608 Joined: 1/01/2008 Location: |
8/20/2008 10:04 PM new color option plastics, renthal big bars, 60 hp, aluminum frame, rental bike when yours breaks....
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todderPosts: 975 Joined: 10/20/2006 Location: |
8/20/2008 10:16 PM Edited Date/Time:
8/20/2008 11:02 PM
Believe Hondas done the el suspension swappo before.....Might've been on two stroke 125....? Talkin' long while back....10-15 yr ago.....Or Suzook did it...Take your pick. All the CR125s had KYB components from around 97 to 2006 so its no big deal for Honda to use them again. .
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TikiPosts: 2863 Joined: 8/01/2006 Location: |
8/20/2008 10:17 PM
I hear:
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TokioMXPosts: 48 Joined: 8/16/2006 Location: |
8/20/2008 10:50 PM
KYB?
CRs had KYB before. Didn't 125 had Showa forks and KYB shock one year? Honda want to make both company happy or something. I think 125 came with Dunlops and 250 came with Bridgestone (or the other way) in same year model too.
"I've heard" Honda is having a press test day on Sep. 10th in Japan. so info should be available about that time. |
NeutraPosts: 21 Joined: 8/15/2008 Location: |
8/21/2008 12:22 AM |






TheWeapon wrote: As a side note, Husky is releasing a 310cc 4stroke for '09.....I wonder if the HP numbers compare to the jap 250F's.....