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I was told that Jemco out of Houston made those pipes back in the day. The owner of Jemco (John Easton) retired and another individual stepped up and bought his jigs and produces pipes under the Jemco name. I have some original Jemco pipes and they are pretty nice.
https://www.jemcoexhaust.com/
I had an unfinished Krause Kannon cone pipe on my ‘82 Maico back in ‘84. Thing looked rad!
85-89 was about the heyday of my mx career. Only one bike had a after market pipe and that was because my stock pipe came apart on my 86 yz 250. The most work we ever did was some slight motor work and lots of carb work. Man how times have changed for after market companies.
I remember the pipes . I think the topend pipe was a color I didn’t like. Was the reason I didn’t get one. I pu a DG pipe at Torque Center in New Berlin , Milwaukee just up the rd from Chicago. I remember my Pontiac Catalina ovr heated but I had all kinds of Mx stuff I just bought. A fox RJ chest protector, tech 4 RJ white boots, DG pipe 79 or 99 bucks. The prices back then were Very reasonable. I hv a New Honda 87 blue TUF. Seat cover. TUF. Is the only co left of the old days out of Chicago land.
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I bought a Krause pipe for my kx80 saved all summer ended up being a black oem pipe no cool welds no cone look just a black oem piece of shit pipe FUCK KRAUSE PIPES
Says 100% guaranteed, I'd give them a call if your still not satisfied.
That was Mr. Know it All right? Hopefully he has something to say
I never got a pipe but I did have Krause port my 81 cr125. I read an article in one of the magazines about what a difference it made and I talked my dad into it. I was only 13 at the time but man it made a huge improvement in the power. That was probably the biggest improvement I ever got out of port work.
Why am i picturing your reaction when you unboxed that pipe
It was 1985 and yes it w
asn't cool 3.35 an hr I made washing dishes and bussed tables. Kinda sticks with u till the end, should have washed more dishes and bought the real deal,so yes almost 40yrs ago and I still torked
I remember those $100 or below pipe days. Those were good times when you didn’t have to mortgage the farm to make mods to your bikes. It was something like $100 pipes/silencer combos, $40 bars, but you could get steel bars for $15 bucks.
Great times!
Bought the top-end version for my 91 RM80, along with Sidewinder sprockets and chain (still have the yellow chain case they would send with the new chain). Sprockets were good, chain was junk compared to DID/RK/Tsubaki/etc. The pipe, couldn't figure out the pipe. It made good power, but made the bike run so lean it would seize pistons. Carrying around a half pound of brass didn't help. It was either jetted so rich it didn't run or was lean. The thing I remember most about it was racing at Kahoka, MO. I could feel the top-end going in the first moto, so I pulled off, and put a new top-end in. Then it seized again in the second moto. Yep, last time I ran the pipe.
Any chance you had an air leak?
Possible, but as soon as the stock pipe went back on, no issues. It was the only part different at the time, always used OEM engine parts and was still using the stock silencer.
You may have found the answer to the problem. Could it have been that you were using the stock silencer with that pipe? If the core was too small it may have resulted in raising piston crown temperatures to the point of piston crown failure or seizures.
3.35 an hr that’s what I made in 10th grade working at a gas station. I was the google search party engine. Kids came in & told me I,m having a 8 kegger spread the word. Everyone stopped at Bob’s to find out from me where the best parties were. Usually 18 real good ones. I made more money working 4 farmers 9 yrs old to 16 . Bailing hay for neighbors 60-90 bucks a day. At 9 I was paid .85 cents a week , haha. That’s for 7 days a week of work. At 12 I had the cash to buy a 80 but my mom was against bikes real bad . Mon unld a 53 ft flatbed curtain side unsecure then drive 40 mi and ld 3 coils suicide , 10 + hrs sweat big time high 80,s & Very muggy , extreme physical work. For no pay. Then drive a few hrs stopped just west of pigeon forge . I made more when I was 12. I,m paid % of the ld but I think there fake rate contracts. I called 1 broker & asked what the rate was . And he hung up. So there probably working together screwing drivers ovr. After working for hrs soaked in sweat , you feel like you’re going to pass out . You hv to hang on to the jack hammer trk diving hard left& rt. I should b making good money but I,m not at all. Starving too is not fun. All this to go racing , it doesn’t look like it will ever happen. Did you re jet the kx80 ? I never installed a pipe & didn’t .
Pit Row
I loved my Sidewinder sprockets. I ran them for many years on many bikes. But I had a trick and it worked out pretty good on 250's. I would actually go down a tooth and carry it with me as a spare on tracks that had a shift before a corner. With those heavy ass sprockets, It actually smoothed out the power instead of making it hard hitting and would carry the gear further. I stumbled onto it by mistake when they actually sent me the wrong sprocket and I had no choice but to run it.
But I never bought any of their pipes or mods. I was on a team that had a flow bench and did in house stuff so I ran all the team stuff. I always had a fast bike and honestly they were hardly ever moded, just balanced and put together right.
I was at an outlaw race and it was my first race on a big bike in the C class and I had my brand new 1989 KX125. I was comfortable on it and at the time I was fast as fuck. They had something like 35 C class bikes show up and only a 30 man gate. Me and 5 others got raffled out to start on the A and B combined gate drop. My Dad was pissed and we had to make sure we were still in the C class. I don't know how scoring would have ever worked out but we did it anyway and we were registered in C class so all was fine. It was a full gate and I beat every C rider, every B rider and every A rider but 3 the first moto and 2 the second moto. I got a 4th place trophy (4, 3 = 4th, how does that work?) and it is the only trophy I ever kept. It was cool because all my friends were there that had never seen me race and they were just shocked because they didn't know how fast everyone was.
After the race, an A rider that I never knew and his Dad came up to me and wanted to know what I had done to my bike. I said nothing it is stock, even the stock pipe. He had the same bike and called BS and got mad saying I was pulling him on every straight and there was a big power hill that he couldn't touch me on. Even though I weighed maybe 115lb. he was near wanting to fight over it because he thought I was lying to him. Turns out they were pissed because his Dad said they put near $2000 into their KX with Krause Racing Phase 3 or one of the Phases and their bike wouldn't touch mine. I was a little bit of a shy kid but I told them maybe if you took it to my sponsor they can fix it for you. I was being sincere but they didn't take it that way and stormed off. I knew then that I wasn't buying shit from Krause Racing. But later I did fall in love with their sprockets. The only thing that was done to my bike was a balanced crank, stock port job with a ball hone ran through the cylinder which sharpened the ports, proper squish band, stock pipe, stock reeds and stock air filter, I even had stock handlebars. So no parts just stock put together right.
Damm 8 kegger how big was your high school 2 kegger was off the hook in my town, damm those were some good times , by then I was making 4.25 a hr after taxes lucky to clear a 20 dollar bill, but would go back in a heart beat, working for your stuff is what made USA 🇺🇸and the 1980s legit, I was in 7th grade when I bought that hunk of SHIT Krause pipe, my grandmother did buy me a pair of white axo turbo boots and a bell moto 4 team green replica , also my first helmet bell moto 3 and red high point boots ,she rode a electric glide Harley Davidson when it was first produced, she might have been 5,4 tall and 110 lbs, narlie cool lady,
https://youtu.be/Ve3fcInpKj0?si=evbiWihS7mlp5xrh
When I was a young kid, I saved and saved to be able to buy a Krause sidewinder rear sprocket for my '89 CR125. Ordered it by phone (no internet or websites at that time) and about 2 - 3 hours later called and cancelled the order after I thought about it more as it was very expensive versus other sprockets.
A few days later I received a letter from Krause stating that I had to pay a restocking fee for my order (even though it never shipped) or I would be blackballed by a long list of companies who would never sell to me. The was a list of most moto companies attached. I do not remember what the fee was but being a kid, I mailed them a check from my dad to cover it so I would not get blackballed. I remember this experience and swore I would never order from them again and I have not to this day! Anyone else have this experience? I wish I had the letter still.
Screw Krause!! I have never had a company do this to me.
You do realize that if it wanted more fuel, It would have made more power. Truly you should have known...
What is so crazy is all of the people that have negative things to say about Krause Kannon Pipes are most likely running them on Vintage and Post Vintage Bike but with a certain Manufacturers Badge on them. Same exact jigs.
And others are running Exhaust made by the person who was welding the Krause Kannon Pipes for Vic (a.k.a V.A.) Krause. He was welding them (was welding pipes for a lot of MX Exhaust Companies throughout his career), and owns his own Exhaust Company, so you think that he didn't learn something from those jigs or trace those pieces that he was welding.
Thing is people go for the Matrix Effect. If it isn't a Top known company, or if Factory Teams aren't running them then people have a BLUE PILL effect of only experiencing the falling in line and following the masses illusion. Well RED PILL effect...the person who was working on the jigs and welding the Krause Kannon Pipes had his Pipes on Factory Bikes at one time in the past and has his Exhaust on Factory Bikes right now in 2024.
Maybe so. But the guy advertised a cool cone looking pipe , and sent me a black spray painted solid no works style pipe, SO in the end he just mislead customers then, I dont care if he worked on the space shuttle, I got juiced at 13 yrs old,
I got a cone type pipe from Krause, maybe itwas just an honest mistake in shipping?
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