Start gate PED??

5/3/2024 4:07pm
Justin_P wrote:
I just went back and looked for a video and saw a closer view, and you're right it does look more like a chapstick, maybe something...

I just went back and looked for a video and saw a closer view, and you're right it does look more like a chapstick, maybe something to open the nasal passages (like Ricky alludes to). They sell bottles of smelling salts (not the type you crack/one time use) but they are far too potent to rub around in one's nostrils.

 

 

I‘d say it‘s something like vicks vaporub to open the airways too. For smelling salts their reaction was too calm imho. 

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mxracer816 wrote:

Smelling salts, supposedly helps with breathing and focus.

That could be the missing ingredient I need to go pro at 59 😂

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5/3/2024 5:23pm

Yes adderall is inhaled through your nasal passage…

Only if you are hard core using it to catch a big buzz...

 

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5/3/2024 5:25pm
zehn wrote:
Only on Vital would you find people stupid enough to believe that our top athletes would be using illegal or banned substances on the starting line...

Only on Vital would you find people stupid enough to believe that our top athletes would be using illegal or banned substances on the starting line, in plain view of cameras, AMA officials, fans, other riders etc. etc.

Well....you aren't wrong Smile

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5/3/2024 5:44pm

I’m sure a rider is going to take something illegal, while sitting on the line, knowing there is likely some camera on them. 🤦🏼🤦🏼🤦🏼🤦🏼🤦🏼🤦🏼🤦🏼🤦🏼🤦🏼🤦🏼🤦🏼🤦🏼 

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5/3/2024 6:03pm Edited Date/Time 5/3/2024 6:04pm

I’m sure a rider is going to take something illegal, while sitting on the line, knowing there is likely some camera on them. 🤦🏼🤦🏼🤦🏼🤦🏼🤦🏼🤦🏼🤦🏼🤦🏼🤦🏼🤦🏼🤦🏼🤦🏼 

Agreed, that’s why I stated multiple times I’m not assuming it’s an illegal substance. But what is the legal substance they are using? I don’t think it’s smelling salts. And why wait till you are behind the gate? 
But as far as the pill Stewart took I’m not sure that was on the up and up. But that was so long ago 

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5/3/2024 6:10pm

A Co worker brought some to the shop. Its smelling salts like they use to wake up boxers. Is it performance enhancing?

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5/3/2024 6:20pm
OldTech wrote:

A Co worker brought some to the shop. Its smelling salts like they use to wake up boxers. Is it performance enhancing?

Would people use them just because they smell good? I don’t do cocaine to get high, I just like the smell. 😂 

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5/3/2024 6:46pm
OldTech wrote:

A Co worker brought some to the shop. Its smelling salts like they use to wake up boxers. Is it performance enhancing?

Ob917 wrote:

Would people use them just because they smell good? I don’t do cocaine to get high, I just like the smell. 😂 

The real question is, the doc gives it after you lose in boxing. When did you see a competitor take it before?

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5/3/2024 6:57pm Edited Date/Time 5/3/2024 6:58pm
OldTech wrote:

A Co worker brought some to the shop. Its smelling salts like they use to wake up boxers. Is it performance enhancing?

Ob917 wrote:

Would people use them just because they smell good? I don’t do cocaine to get high, I just like the smell. 😂 

OldTech wrote:

The real question is, the doc gives it after you lose in boxing. When did you see a competitor take it before?

I’m not sure, lots of people in this thread are speculating that’s what the Lawrence bros are taking on the gate. But it’s just guesses nobody really knows, check the SX broadcasts. 

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5/5/2024 11:28am Edited Date/Time 5/5/2024 1:37pm
Gravel wrote:

Whatever it is, it’s not a good look. Jett was on camera snorting stuff before the main too. 

You are part of today's society issues. Stay in your own lane and mind your own business. Mr. It's not a good look....  Do you honestly think he'd be doing a line of coke on tv and of course they know they are being filmed..

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5/5/2024 5:47pm
Gravel wrote:

Whatever it is, it’s not a good look. Jett was on camera snorting stuff before the main too. 

CrGuy2T wrote:
You are part of today's society issues. Stay in your own lane and mind your own business. Mr. It's not a good look....  Do you honestly...

You are part of today's society issues. Stay in your own lane and mind your own business. Mr. It's not a good look....  Do you honestly think he'd be doing a line of coke on tv and of course they know they are being filmed..

I stand by what I said, but I never said anything about what exactly he was snorting, because I don’t know. You’re the one speculating. I simply offered an opinion on what I saw a public figure doing, in public. I’ll continue to do that, hopefully you can learn some tolerance for others who have opinions about things that you disagree with, or just make you uncomfortable. 
 

 

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5/5/2024 6:07pm
Gravel wrote:

Whatever it is, it’s not a good look. Jett was on camera snorting stuff before the main too. 

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5/5/2024 6:24pm Edited Date/Time 5/5/2024 6:31pm
Gravel wrote:
I stand by what I said, but I never said anything about what exactly he was snorting, because I don’t know. You’re the one speculating. I...

I stand by what I said, but I never said anything about what exactly he was snorting, because I don’t know. You’re the one speculating. I simply offered an opinion on what I saw a public figure doing, in public. I’ll continue to do that, hopefully you can learn some tolerance for others who have opinions about things that you disagree with, or just make you uncomfortable. 
 

 

So because he's a public figure he's not allowed to smell something or take something that is legal in front of a camera? I'm not speculating anything your whole topic is based off speculation.. what's he supposed to do hide under a jacket?? Ask your self, do you really think the points leader and the team would do anything to jeopardize the title? What is the look the riders should have in front of the camera also? We all would like to know..

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5/5/2024 6:38pm
Gravel wrote:

Whatever it is, it’s not a good look. Jett was on camera snorting stuff before the main too. 

CrGuy2T wrote:
You are part of today's society issues. Stay in your own lane and mind your own business. Mr. It's not a good look....  Do you honestly...

You are part of today's society issues. Stay in your own lane and mind your own business. Mr. It's not a good look....  Do you honestly think he'd be doing a line of coke on tv and of course they know they are being filmed..

Gravel wrote:
I stand by what I said, but I never said anything about what exactly he was snorting, because I don’t know. You’re the one speculating. I...

I stand by what I said, but I never said anything about what exactly he was snorting, because I don’t know. You’re the one speculating. I simply offered an opinion on what I saw a public figure doing, in public. I’ll continue to do that, hopefully you can learn some tolerance for others who have opinions about things that you disagree with, or just make you uncomfortable. 
 

 

Yeah OK.  You are implying that he is snorting (which by the way means inhaling some solid substance through the nose) something potentially illegal.  Others have suggested much more reasonable and far more likely alternatives, such as smelling salts, but you dismiss those and stand by your speculative assertion.

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5/5/2024 6:58pm Edited Date/Time 5/5/2024 6:59pm

Is there even any PED testing taking place anymore?  I just have to laugh at people who think that motocross is "clean".  There are guys "juicing" to be #1 on Strava for god's sake.  You don't think given the millions of $$$ these riders are earning for winning isn't going to lead to looking for any "advantage" you can get. I've got some oceanfront property in California City I'd like to sell you if you believe there isn't PED use amongst the top riders.  Oh yeah, in this case I'm guessing it's menthol. If it was true smelling salts you'd seen a pretty obvious reaction.

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5/5/2024 7:39pm

This is why we can't have nice things.

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Athletes seeking performance improvements sometimes use smelling salts for their stimulating effect. Smelling salts trigger a sharp inhalation reflex, bringing in more air and oxygen. This may result in improved alertness. Guys at my gym do this in competition. Always thought it was some drug until I asked. Got laughed out of the gym.

5/5/2024 7:53pm
mxracer816 wrote:

Smelling salts, supposedly helps with breathing and focus.

MX558 wrote:

That could be the missing ingredient I need to go pro at 59 😂

The Colombians have a product that will help you live your dreams!

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jndmx wrote:

Got to be careful with that.  Look up Alain Baxter, he was using Euro version which was ok but the US version got him disqualified and lost his medal 🤬🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

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A guy sees something on a live broadcast and asks a question and the internet loses it’s shit.

Laughing

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TeamGreen wrote:
A guy sees something on a live broadcast and asks a question and the internet loses it’s shit.

A guy sees something on a live broadcast and asks a question and the internet loses it’s shit.

Laughing

Haha you know how it is Manny. It’s actually more mellow than I thought it might get. But a serious and I believe a legit question. But maybe I’m the only one who is curious 🤷🏼‍♂️

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5/6/2024 5:19pm
Ob917 wrote:
What is being taken on the gate? Remember when Stewart took a pill before a SX start, and I just saw some footage of Hunter L...

What is being taken on the gate? Remember when Stewart took a pill before a SX start, and I just saw some footage of Hunter L doing some sort of inhalant before a start. What is the currant stimulant these guys are taking? I’m sure most dudes remember to hit it before they are on TV but it seems like sometimes they forget and that looks kinda weird. Inquiring minds want to know. Not saying it’s illegal or whatever  

Smelling salts. A trick that hockey players been doing for years. 

On my college hockey team we use to use Hall's Menthol Lyptus lozenges and they worked great.

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There seems to be several camps in this thread:

1) Those who want to speculate some sinister motive and PED usage.

2) Those who want to placate, deny, and explain.

3) Those that are offended this topic was brought up to begin with.

But not many have shared any understanding of what's happening, and to what purpose.  For me, I think its a fair and reasonable question to ask based on what's shown on the public broadcast of the event.

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You do realize these guys are drug tested, right?  For Christ sake.  Totally normal if a rider uses smelling salts or a nasal inhaler to help open the sinuses for better breathing. Nothing illegal or wrong. I remember some Tour de France rider talking about forcing himself to yawn so he'd get more oxygen in the lungs. If you're so worried about them being seen doing it on TV I would argue the Monster/Red Bull/ Rockstar drinks they pretend to slam (which are typically filled with water) are far more dangerous to health than any smelling salts or nasal inhaler.  

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ProKawi24 wrote:
You do realize these guys are drug tested, right?  For Christ sake.  Totally normal if a rider uses smelling salts or a nasal inhaler to help...

You do realize these guys are drug tested, right?  For Christ sake.  Totally normal if a rider uses smelling salts or a nasal inhaler to help open the sinuses for better breathing. Nothing illegal or wrong. I remember some Tour de France rider talking about forcing himself to yawn so he'd get more oxygen in the lungs. If you're so worried about them being seen doing it on TV I would argue the Monster/Red Bull/ Rockstar drinks they pretend to slam (which are typically filled with water) are far more dangerous to health than any smelling salts or nasal inhaler.  

So category 3, then?

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5/8/2024 12:51pm Edited Date/Time 5/8/2024 12:52pm

Wtf, this wasn’t started because of some illegal substance speculation. It’s a serious question what are these guys using ? Lots of random guesses but none of them seem likely. Nobody knows I guess. Very secret it seems. 

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5/8/2024 1:16pm Edited Date/Time 5/8/2024 1:17pm

I saw Deegs and Kitchen given an inhalant, in the pits, right before they headed to the line at Millville last year. 

They reacted as if it was really harsh, it made their eyes water, they rubbed their noses and shook their heads.

I too wondered what in the heck that might be....  I also, and still do, assume it is indeed legal.  Just curious as I hadn't seen it before.

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I saw Deegs and Kitchen given an inhalant, in the pits, right before they headed to the line at Millville last year.  They reacted as if...

I saw Deegs and Kitchen given an inhalant, in the pits, right before they headed to the line at Millville last year. 

They reacted as if it was really harsh, it made their eyes water, they rubbed their noses and shook their heads.

I too wondered what in the heck that might be....  I also, and still do, assume it is indeed legal.  Just curious as I hadn't seen it before.

That's the common reaction to smelling salts, which is why I don't think that's what Jett is administering on the start line. When I was younger I lost a bet and smelling salts was the payoff, that shit is harsh.

The guy in this thread that would know more than most referenced essential oils. I have no idea what they are supposed to do.

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