I'm sure everyone here is familiar with RM Fantasy SX (predicting the top 5 plus a wildcard position), PulpMX (pick 4 riders with a handicap) and BetOnline (odds on winner/podium finish).
Underdog has a completely different concept than those three platforms, which means it's not competing against current sponsors of the sport like Rocky Mountain, Pulp or BetOnline. They all have a different goal, therefore none of them take away from one another.
and here's a disclaimer for Vital: I won't include any promo codes that benefits the person signing up for the first time. I'm not affiliated with Underdog other than being a customer and supporting their business since they currently sponsor my friend Logan Leitzel, who has qualified for two main events this season, and considering they're just dipping their toes in sports like Supercross they may try to get more involved in the sport in the future.
All I'm doing is trying to get more people to bet on supercross on their website since a large majority of their audience bets on mainstream sports like NFL, NBA and MLB. If I can introduce a new audience to their website then they will be incentivized to add more options to bet on (laps led, 250 class, continue into outdoors, etc).
Okay so how is Underdog different to other websites? They use pick'ems, which is their way of saying over/under bets. At the moment they just have finishing position, but it's the first time they've added Supercross to their website and I'm sure they would add other bets if enough people try it out.
How do pick'ems work? They have Jett Lawrence at 2.5, which means better than 2.5 means he needs to finish 1st or 2nd for the bet to win, worse than 2.5 means he needs to finish 3rd or worse. This applies to every bet. Jason Anderson's is at 7.5 which means better than 7.5 is 7th or better, worse than 7.5 is 8th or worse. It doesn't matter how many positions lower or higher they end up, a win is a win.
As far as I know, you can't parlay bets on BetOnline, everything is individual. You can't do individual bets on Underdog, everything needs to be paired with something else (a parlay). Two in a single bet is a 3x multiplier ($10 = $30), three in a single bet is a 6x multiplier ($10 = $60), four in a single bet is a 10x multiplier ($10 = $100) and the limit is five in a single bet which is a 20x multiplier ($10 = $200).
There's a lot more features and betting options for other sports, but this would be a 10 page essay if I dove into all of that. There's a ton of videos explaining how to bet on Underdog and you should be able to figure it out browsing around the website for a few minutes. They also have a mobile friendly app that I use every single day. Below is an example of what the bets look like on the website.
How long do they typically take to show a bet as a win? I placed a handful of bets in last nights race and all of my wins are still pending 12 hours later. My bet on Kenny and Sexton was immediately shown a loss (rightfully so) after they both DNF. My bets placed on Jett, Hunter, Eli and Anderson (all of which “won”) are still showing pending.
Edit: messaged a rep through their app and he “nudged” their review team to process the results and my wins immediately showed up. We are a tiny drop in a big bucket for them. Their customer service seems to be pretty good.
I just got paid out a few minutes ago so it should be in your account now!
I updated my post a little bit ago. I talked to a customer service person and they got it processed while I was chatting with them.
I played for the first time last night and it certainly made the evening more interesting, especially on top of the Vital fantasy. Although I missed a few bets on Sexton and Roczen, I managed to turn a $50 bet into $270. I hope they continue with this, as it's a lot of fun.
The Shop
Pick'ems are now available for Philadelphia SX. They added Malcolm Stewart, Adam Cianciarulo, Benny Bloss, Mitchell Oldenburg and Shane McElrath!
what are these 'points' and how do you cash them out?
I have no idea why rjw141's picture has it listed as 270 "points". There's a multiplier based on how many picks you put in a bet. You can't bet a single rider, you have to use at least 2. 2 riders is 3x, 3 riders is 6x, 4 riders is 10x and 5 riders is 20x. Sometimes there's scorchers, which just boosts the multiplier slightly. The multiplier is very simple, the 3x 6x 10x and 20x is just multiplied by whatever amount you decide to bet. $1 bets on each of those would be $3, $6, $10 and $20. Do the math, $10 would be $30, $60, $100 and $200. I put $25 on a 5 rider bet in Nashville and won $500.
you said you won $500 but that guy shows that he only won 'points'. What's the difference between money and points?
I thought you were all against betting on moto? Why are you interested in this?
However, I don’t know what the reference to points is. It’s dollars. Underdog doesn’t require any crazy betting minimums before cashing out.
like I said I have no idea why his screenshot lists it as points.
Few questions. Sorry if they seem elementary but I've never bet on sports and want to make sure I understand how it works. Any advice is appreciated!
-----
1. If I bet $25 on 3x bets, my bet would cost $75 correct? ($25 per rider?)
2. If I play the standard version and I choose Sexton, Anderson and Mcelrath, what would my winnings be if I got all three right correct?
3. In the standard version, If I'm right on two of my picks but wrong on one, my entire bet is a loss right? In other words, all picks have to be right to win anything?
4. Is there any benefit to bet on three riders instead of the required two in the standard version or is picking a third rider an unnecessary risk since only two are required and, if I understand correctly, getting one wrong results in a total loss?
5. If I play the Flex version and make the same three picks, betting $25, my bet would cost the same amount, $75?
6. In the Flex version, if I get all three picks right, what would my winnings be?
7. In the Flex version, if one of my picks is wrong but the other two are correct, what would my winnings be?
8. Are you able to cancel bets up until race time? For example, if a rider gets hurt during the week or Saturday practice, can you cancel the bet before the race?
Thanks!
1. If I bet $25 on 3x bets, my bet would cost $75 correct? ($25 per rider?)
Incorrect, if you bet $25 on a 3x bet then it only costs $25, but the payout is 3x, meaning the payout would be $75.
2. If I play the standard version and I choose Sexton, Anderson and Mcelrath, what would my winnings be if I got all three right correct?
$25 would turn a standard bet into $75
3. In the standard version, If I'm right on two of my picks but wrong on one, my entire bet is a loss right? In other words, all picks have to be right to win anything?
In the standard version, yes. It will be a lost bet.
4. Is there any benefit to bet on three riders instead of the required two in the standard version or is picking a third rider an unnecessary risk since only two are required and, if I understand correctly, getting one wrong results in a total loss?
The benefit to adding more riders is the multiplier increasing with each rider. A $25 bet on 2 riders pays out $75, but a $25 on 3 riders pays out $150, a 4 rider bet is $250 and a 5 rider bet pays out $500. It all depends on how much risk you want to take, if you don't feel comfortable adding a 3rd rider then just do 2 riders. If you want to add a 3rd but feel like it's risky, make it a Flex.
5. If I play the Flex version and make the same three picks, betting $25, my bet would cost the same amount, $75?
This is similar to the first question, and yes your bet would still only be $25 if you make it a Flex.
6. In the Flex version, if I get all three picks right, what would my winnings be?
If you bet $25 on a 3 rider Flex bet, it will pay out $75.
7. In the Flex version, if one of my picks is wrong but the other two are correct, what would my winnings be?
If you bet 3 riders and you only get 2 right, you'll win back your $25 dollars.
8. Are you able to cancel bets up until race time? For example, if a rider gets hurt during the week or Saturday practice, can you cancel the bet before the race?
No, Underdog doesn't allow you to cancel bets once they are placed. If you have any other questions you'll probably be able to find them on this page: https://underdogfantasy.com/rules/pick-em
I hope this helped!
Thanks for all the info. I appreciate it!
So it sounds like it'd be best to place my bets last minute. What is the deadline for placing bets?
As far as I know, bets lock when the night show starts.
Yes and no. The odds can change, they have moved on a couple of riders this week already. But you also have the possibility of a rider crashing out in qualifying. I’m still not sure how that would work. I think if your guy doesn’t start the bet would be refunded. They refunded one of my baseball bets because one of my players stayed on the bench the whole game.
I think betting early gives you the most value because the position can change. For example, Tomac went from 4.0 to 3.5. The reason why this is a big deal is because if you bet on Tomac at 4.0, a 4th place finish would make it a "push" which lowers the payout slightly but it wouldn't be considered a loss bet.
Yeah that's what I was wondering, how it would work if a rider didn't line up for the night show.
Thanks everyone for the replies. Lots of good info here. I just put $60 down on Sexton, Anderson, Barcia and Mcelrath. A win would earn me $600. Fingers crossed!
Pit Row
I believe it would become a push, not a lost bet, so you wouldn't get refunded for the bet. It says qualifying lap, but I'm assuming that applies to a race as well.
I think voided would mean your bet is refunded. That’s what happened to my baseball bet.
On another note did anyone notice BetOnline already closed books? It opened yesterday morning and closed today around noon. Open just a little over 24 hours. Strange. I feel like the Underdog site is better all around.
I went in pretty early last weekend with $50 and a code for a match up to $50 and ended with $510. I have $400 in my bank account and left the rest in to play again with nothing but an easy positive experience.
Man if Roczen and Sexton didn't have bike problems then Underdog would have gone out of business LOL
Solid week on Underdog! Here's some examples why it's fun to pair pick'ems with other sports you watch. The $200 win was paired with a discounted Bam Adebayo bet. The Valanciunas/Holiday bet was paired with Cianciarulo and Barcia, the Lawrence (Hunter) Sexton Tomac and Cianciarulo bet was my "core" bet that I made a flex (needed Tomac to beat Anderson!) and the last one was paired with some e-sports bets. Underdog is a lot of fun when you gamble responsibly and the format Underdog uses allows you to track multiple sports/bets at once.
I wasn’t aware that you could mix sports. That’s pretty cool.
Post a reply to: How to bet on SX using Underdog Fantasy and how it's different to other sites