2025 Silly Season.

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4/27/2024 9:29am
Money wrote:

Phoenix Honda won’t be back for 2025

They don't have their 2025 plans sorted yet, so that's not true.

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Per Mitch on Pulp, Cam and Seth both re-signed with PC on two year deals. 

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Per Mitch on Pulp, Cam and Seth both re-signed with PC on two year deals. 

At some point Mitch has just got to clean house right?  It’s been nearly 10 years of the same story it seems. 

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Per Mitch on Pulp, Cam and Seth both re-signed with PC on two year deals. 

So what’s going to happen with forkner 

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mxxxeR1 wrote:

Rumor is that he wants to race lommel mxgp

nrosso391 wrote:
Yeah...what genius started that rumor? He's not going to bring his entire family abroad just to do one race. And he's certainly not going to do...

Yeah...what genius started that rumor? He's not going to bring his entire family abroad just to do one race. And he's certainly not going to do it for a few rounds of MXGP.

mxxxeR1 wrote:

Johnny hopper

And that "source" should be how serious you take that information.

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4/30/2024 9:53am
mxxxeR1 wrote:

Rumor is that he wants to race lommel mxgp

nrosso391 wrote:
Yeah...what genius started that rumor? He's not going to bring his entire family abroad just to do one race. And he's certainly not going to do...

Yeah...what genius started that rumor? He's not going to bring his entire family abroad just to do one race. And he's certainly not going to do it for a few rounds of MXGP.

Eli said it on that Vital question of the week about what race would be on your bucket list.  Not sure he was serious at all.

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4/30/2024 10:59am

Per Mitch on Pulp, Cam and Seth both re-signed with PC on two year deals. 

Money wrote:

So what’s going to happen with forkner 

I listened to it throughout my evening routine, and heard Mitch say he "believes" in Austin, but that was mentioned after he proudly stated he has signed up the other two guys, but no mention of Austin putting ink to paper....    Maybe they have not come to contract terms yet?  Or maybe Mitch still "believes" in Austin, but KHI has other thoughts, and are no longer interested?  Not dogging him (Austin), but there has been a helluva pattern going on over the years the paycheck cutting folks may  have grown sick of.  If true, Austin will land somewhere, he's fast as can be.  But his crashes are as brutal as his raw speed.  Not a good combo to have....  especially since he hasn't completed a season since, what, 2017?  2018?  Something has got to give somewhere

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So we have: Prado to Kawi on a 3 year deal.   Star talking to Pierce Brown, Anstie, and Benistant. Question mark on Romano’s future with...

So we have:

Prado to Kawi on a 3 year deal.

 

Star talking to Pierce Brown, Anstie, and Benistant. Question mark on Romano’s future with the team. I heard they already re-signed Thrasher or are in talks to re-sign him.

 

PC talking to Pierce Brown. Forkner, Cam, Hammaker, and Vohland’s contracts are up at the end of the year (if they haven’t re-signed)

 

Triumph looking to expand to 450s and looking to add to their 250 team in addition to replacing Ferry. 

Something is super off with thrasher this year, doesn't seem to have the pace he had last year.  Hopefully Romano doesn't get let go, but it'd...

Something is super off with thrasher this year, doesn't seem to have the pace he had last year.  Hopefully Romano doesn't get let go, but it'd be cool to see him land on Kawi if he does.  A move away from TLD would be good for Brown.  Whats up with all the other star guys?  Robertson gone most likely?  Lopes?  How long was Mosiman's deal?  I don't see Towers getting a pro contract.

I think PC need to turn a new page on Cam and Forkner, knew Mcadoo would somehow blow his shot a winning a championship.  Hammaker deserves a resign I think and Vohland we'll see, any news on when he'll be back on the bike?  Maybe Triumph would be good for Forkner a proven 250 guy if he can stay healthy and a clear path to the 450s. 

Still the plan for the Coenen bros to come over in '26?

I take Forkner and Cam all day over Vohland.

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4/30/2024 11:21am

Per Mitch on Pulp, Cam and Seth both re-signed with PC on two year deals. 

soggy wrote:

At some point Mitch has just got to clean house right?  It’s been nearly 10 years of the same story it seems. 

I said the same thing last year at Anaheim 1, just 5 seconds after the 250 Main Event gate drop. Forkner needs a new home if he's going to continue to race. Let him be someone else's problem. And Mitch needs to clean house. Same thought with McAdoo. Its harsh but damn these kids need to learn to ride smart, not just fast. And throw in those "guaranteed contract" clauses...now it doesn't matter if you crash out or not, you have a contract extension ready the next day. I think it makes those guys not learn to ride smart. If you have to fight for your contract with finishing results, you'll be smart enough to slow down to make it to next weekend.

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4/30/2024 12:28pm

I think it would be best for Forkner and PC to part ways because they both gave it an honest effort but the ultimate result is not going to come unfortunately. I wouldn't be surprised if he went to Triumph with some sort of 250/450 deal. I think they have proven the 250 with Swoll that the bike can compete and he can help develop the 450 for them too. Or maybe Beta if they are going to have a 250 bike too.

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4/30/2024 12:29pm

From pulp last night smith to triumph? 

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4/30/2024 1:01pm

Who's the clown who just mentioned Tomac might go back to Kawasaki? Now THAT is silly.

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NorCal1975 wrote:
I know this has been talked about for a year or longer, but that would/will be a huge loss for the GP series, Lucas in particular...

I know this has been talked about for a year or longer, but that would/will be a huge loss for the GP series, Lucas in particular is an amazing talent, especially once he finds that balance between crazy speed and crashing every other moto.  That dude is a dog, he hates to lose.  Sasha is pretty dang fast too but is so short.  He has had tip over crashes in almost every moto this year, sometimes just because he can't get his feet down far enough or fast enough to stay upright.  He must be 5'4"?  And at 17 he may not grow much more....   

Would be awesome to see them and Kay De Wolf come next year (or in 26) but I do enjoy watching the GPs and hate to see that series diminished further.

Unless something change... those boys hit the deck an awful lot.

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4/30/2024 1:25pm
nrosso391 wrote:

Who's the clown who just mentioned Tomac might go back to Kawasaki? Now THAT is silly.

Jason Lawrence. 

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4/30/2024 1:43pm
nrosso391 wrote:

Who's the clown who just mentioned Tomac might go back to Kawasaki? Now THAT is silly.

MXGP Kawasaki has no one for next season yet.. 

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tek14 wrote:

MXGP Kawasaki has no one for next season yet.. 

Sewer is a 1 year deal?

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tek14 wrote:

MXGP Kawasaki has no one for next season yet.. 

Jdog2221 wrote:

Sewer is a 1 year deal?

Mhm.

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4/30/2024 5:07pm
Money wrote:

From pulp last night smith to triumph? 

That’s a great signing for Triumph. Crazy if it is actually for four years. That’s a big commitment. 

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4/30/2024 6:00pm
Money wrote:

From pulp last night smith to triumph? 

That’s a great signing for Triumph. Crazy if it is actually for four years. That’s a big commitment. 

They weren’t talking about Smith. They were talking 450.  

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4/30/2024 6:07pm
Money wrote:

From pulp last night smith to triumph? 

That’s a great signing for Triumph. Crazy if it is actually for four years. That’s a big commitment. 

UpTiTe wrote:

They weren’t talking about Smith. They were talking 450.  

Cliff notes?

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Per Mitch on Pulp, Cam and Seth both re-signed with PC on two year deals. 

soggy wrote:

At some point Mitch has just got to clean house right?  It’s been nearly 10 years of the same story it seems. 

nrosso391 wrote:
I said the same thing last year at Anaheim 1, just 5 seconds after the 250 Main Event gate drop. Forkner needs a new home if...

I said the same thing last year at Anaheim 1, just 5 seconds after the 250 Main Event gate drop. Forkner needs a new home if he's going to continue to race. Let him be someone else's problem. And Mitch needs to clean house. Same thought with McAdoo. Its harsh but damn these kids need to learn to ride smart, not just fast. And throw in those "guaranteed contract" clauses...now it doesn't matter if you crash out or not, you have a contract extension ready the next day. I think it makes those guys not learn to ride smart. If you have to fight for your contract with finishing results, you'll be smart enough to slow down to make it to next weekend.

You should start a team with all your knowledge!! 🤦🤦🤦

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Forkner to triumph would be cool. Maybe less pressure to win the championship from the outset, even though the bike seems capable. But if would be acceptable for him to have an off night and settle for a top 5. Gosh I hope he can get through a season. 

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4/30/2024 6:41pm
Money wrote:

From pulp last night smith to triumph? 

That’s a great signing for Triumph. Crazy if it is actually for four years. That’s a big commitment. 

UpTiTe wrote:

They weren’t talking about Smith. They were talking 450.  

We were talking about Jordan Smith.

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4/30/2024 6:46pm

That’s a great signing for Triumph. Crazy if it is actually for four years. That’s a big commitment. 

UpTiTe wrote:

They weren’t talking about Smith. They were talking 450.  

ML512 wrote:

We were talking about Jordan Smith.

Nice. What do you know about the 450 guy? 
 

 Ooorrr, is that who they are putting on a 450? 

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nrosso391 wrote:

And that "source" should be how serious you take that information.

Bit ironic

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4/30/2024 6:47pm Edited Date/Time 4/30/2024 6:54pm

That’s a great signing for Triumph. Crazy if it is actually for four years. That’s a big commitment. 

UpTiTe wrote:

They weren’t talking about Smith. They were talking 450.  

ohh_454 wrote:

Cliff notes?

I’m sorry, I was thinking about another brand. 

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So we have: Prado to Kawi on a 3 year deal.   Star talking to Pierce Brown, Anstie, and Benistant. Question mark on Romano’s future with...

So we have:

Prado to Kawi on a 3 year deal.

 

Star talking to Pierce Brown, Anstie, and Benistant. Question mark on Romano’s future with the team. I heard they already re-signed Thrasher or are in talks to re-sign him.

 

PC talking to Pierce Brown. Forkner, Cam, Hammaker, and Vohland’s contracts are up at the end of the year (if they haven’t re-signed)

 

Triumph looking to expand to 450s and looking to add to their 250 team in addition to replacing Ferry. 

Something is super off with thrasher this year, doesn't seem to have the pace he had last year.  Hopefully Romano doesn't get let go, but it'd...

Something is super off with thrasher this year, doesn't seem to have the pace he had last year.  Hopefully Romano doesn't get let go, but it'd be cool to see him land on Kawi if he does.  A move away from TLD would be good for Brown.  Whats up with all the other star guys?  Robertson gone most likely?  Lopes?  How long was Mosiman's deal?  I don't see Towers getting a pro contract.

I think PC need to turn a new page on Cam and Forkner, knew Mcadoo would somehow blow his shot a winning a championship.  Hammaker deserves a resign I think and Vohland we'll see, any news on when he'll be back on the bike?  Maybe Triumph would be good for Forkner a proven 250 guy if he can stay healthy and a clear path to the 450s. 

Still the plan for the Coenen bros to come over in '26?

crusher773 wrote:

I take Forkner and Cam all day over Vohland.

All you’ll get out of Cam and Forkner is one day…. Have they made a season without getting injured?  I know Austin hasn’t.

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4/30/2024 7:37pm

Per Mitch on Pulp, Cam and Seth both re-signed with PC on two year deals. 

Money wrote:

So what’s going to happen with forkner 

dadofagun wrote:
I listened to it throughout my evening routine, and heard Mitch say he "believes" in Austin, but that was mentioned after he proudly stated he has...

I listened to it throughout my evening routine, and heard Mitch say he "believes" in Austin, but that was mentioned after he proudly stated he has signed up the other two guys, but no mention of Austin putting ink to paper....    Maybe they have not come to contract terms yet?  Or maybe Mitch still "believes" in Austin, but KHI has other thoughts, and are no longer interested?  Not dogging him (Austin), but there has been a helluva pattern going on over the years the paycheck cutting folks may  have grown sick of.  If true, Austin will land somewhere, he's fast as can be.  But his crashes are as brutal as his raw speed.  Not a good combo to have....  especially since he hasn't completed a season since, what, 2017?  2018?  Something has got to give somewhere

yep can't understand Mitches thought process...he is a smart dude but seems to make the same mistakes over and over with his team selections.?

that young guy in the SX  futures riding Kawi  Drew ??  (a mate of jetts) wld be the 1st rider i wld be signing...(if he nots locked down already) ?

AF needs a new environment and still has a title in him...........be funny if he ended up at HRC.

 

Macaddo is all heart but that injury toll is starting to mount.

 

Seth is a complete mystery to me..............

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Something is super off with thrasher this year, doesn't seem to have the pace he had last year.  Hopefully Romano doesn't get let go, but it'd...

Something is super off with thrasher this year, doesn't seem to have the pace he had last year.  Hopefully Romano doesn't get let go, but it'd be cool to see him land on Kawi if he does.  A move away from TLD would be good for Brown.  Whats up with all the other star guys?  Robertson gone most likely?  Lopes?  How long was Mosiman's deal?  I don't see Towers getting a pro contract.

I think PC need to turn a new page on Cam and Forkner, knew Mcadoo would somehow blow his shot a winning a championship.  Hammaker deserves a resign I think and Vohland we'll see, any news on when he'll be back on the bike?  Maybe Triumph would be good for Forkner a proven 250 guy if he can stay healthy and a clear path to the 450s. 

Still the plan for the Coenen bros to come over in '26?

crusher773 wrote:

I take Forkner and Cam all day over Vohland.

All you’ll get out of Cam and Forkner is one day…. Have they made a season without getting injured?  I know Austin hasn’t.

Neither has Vohland and at least the other 2 can win races.

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crusher773 wrote:

I take Forkner and Cam all day over Vohland.

All you’ll get out of Cam and Forkner is one day…. Have they made a season without getting injured?  I know Austin hasn’t.

crusher773 wrote:

Neither has Vohland and at least the other 2 can win races.

Vohland has gotten hurt twice and he's young, and yes he has finished entire seasons.  Cam who was already recovering from an injury, get injured even more in the off season then injures himself again in a crash that was avoidable, then takes him and his teammate out in the second turn.  What good is it that they're capable of winning races if they can't finish a championship...

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