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I've decided to quit lurking and actually join the forum.
I always liked this generation honda and tried desperately to talk my dad into helping me buy a '97 cr125 back when they were new. (I was 13yrs old). I had an '89 kx125 at the time. My first bike was a '92 xr100r i got new for christmas of '92. I still have that bike too.
By '99 my dad bought a brand new '00 cr125 and i started
Racing at that point. I got an '01 cr250 shortly there after and ran both beginner classes. By 2003 i switched to yamaha and had an '02 125 and 426. Went to motocross schools with the likes of Trey Canard while he was on 80's and rode with alot of local experts. When I quit racing and went to school in late 2003 I had just moved to expert class as they called it then.
Now im at a place in life where ive got my oldest son riding and I'm going to start ripping it after a 13-14 year hiatus!
Ok in all my lurking i see a lot of bikes that look decent but then most of them turn out to be not so good and they just get fully rebuilt anyways. I want to build a "Modern Steely" so i just found the cheapest bike that looked as it had never been raced. The one i found looks horrid before removing plastic, but the pegs aren't sagging and the suspension is tight.
Motor turn over is a plus but ill be going completely through it.
I've already bought a complete front end from an '05 crf.
One question for now though. The swingarm has a big dent in it and i cant find anything on any of the later cr's shock and swingarms working on these.
Should i just find another swingarm and 96 shock or would i be happier with another setup say like 2000-2001 model stuff (if it will work)?
I always liked this generation honda and tried desperately to talk my dad into helping me buy a '97 cr125 back when they were new. (I was 13yrs old). I had an '89 kx125 at the time. My first bike was a '92 xr100r i got new for christmas of '92. I still have that bike too.
By '99 my dad bought a brand new '00 cr125 and i started
Racing at that point. I got an '01 cr250 shortly there after and ran both beginner classes. By 2003 i switched to yamaha and had an '02 125 and 426. Went to motocross schools with the likes of Trey Canard while he was on 80's and rode with alot of local experts. When I quit racing and went to school in late 2003 I had just moved to expert class as they called it then.
Now im at a place in life where ive got my oldest son riding and I'm going to start ripping it after a 13-14 year hiatus!
Ok in all my lurking i see a lot of bikes that look decent but then most of them turn out to be not so good and they just get fully rebuilt anyways. I want to build a "Modern Steely" so i just found the cheapest bike that looked as it had never been raced. The one i found looks horrid before removing plastic, but the pegs aren't sagging and the suspension is tight.
Motor turn over is a plus but ill be going completely through it.
I've already bought a complete front end from an '05 crf.
One question for now though. The swingarm has a big dent in it and i cant find anything on any of the later cr's shock and swingarms working on these.
Should i just find another swingarm and 96 shock or would i be happier with another setup say like 2000-2001 model stuff (if it will work)?
Is there another shock out there from a later bike that will work or modify to work. I was wrenching for a living but am now diesel engine shop foreman and am extremely knowledgeable with machining. Have a huge machine shop at my disposal (where i work). Almost anything can be built.
You won't fit a swinger later than 96.
Unfortunately a LOT of EOM parts are already dried up for these bikes. What's the plan with it? Original 95 replica or something different? Purple shrouds are hard to find but there are some out there if you keep an eye out for them
Thats why I thought this bike fit my needs and not a nice original. If im going to mod one why spend extra on a nice one to just pull stock parts off.
So i guess ill be looking for a '96 shock.
I contacted Ufo directly and they said that they would do any plastics in any special colors as long as there was an order of 100 pieces. Example- flo yellow '92-'93 honda or another example like having a 2014 honda done in the '93 flo red. Just need to get a 100 piece order together
Might be something the forum can get together on!
The Shop
Im going to go ahead and pull the engine, tear it down and inspect its condition before buying any more body/chassis components.
I've been looking at those Wrenchrabbit engine kits, are they any good? I cant find anything bad about them. Should i still buy factory honda crank seals regardless?
I straightened the subframe and ran the airbox through the dishwasher. Note- By doing this the Wife was pissed! But it sure cleaned it up nicely.
I think I'll see if Evo-mx or somebody else will reproduce the graphics instead of wasting these. If i dont use these graphics ill probably just build an Eric Kehoe flo red and white replica. I think those look sick.
I have a neon yellow & blue tecnosel seat cover that I may sell. PM for pics if you are interested.
I just got my 96' 250 frame back from powdercoat. Engine is done, just need to start putting it back together. DO NOT use one of those Wrench Rabbit kits, Wiseco or Hot Rods. Buy new OEM or have your crank rebuilt by someone reputable. I used Ken Oconnor racing for cylinder rebuild and crank rebuild. Cylinder came out great. It looks brand new. My Biggest issue was with the swingarm. The one that came on the bike looked great, but up on closer inspection it had a crack in it. Fine for trail and fun riding. I would not jump it though. I had to buy like 3 swingarms off Ebay to get a good one. Also radiator louvers are rare as hens teeth. Not sure what I'm going to do there. My rims were in good condition, but some total idiot down the line epoxied the tires to the rims. So the rims got ruined trying to get the tires off.
Before powder
After
I rode it again today to figure out how i want to set it up. I'm 6'3" so I'm going to lower the foot pegs on both bikes and install tall seat foam. Ill probably pick up another set of crf forks and triples too and move the bars forward.
What pegs are best for these to obtain lower height? I like my brothers yz450 so I want to shoot for those egronomics.
I will say its got some serious low end and mid range but no topend. I dont like that and dont remember my 01 cr being that way. I like it to have a more serious mid range punch and pull hard in the top.
To me its like a 500 low on power. FMF pipe and the silencer i think is an maybe older an R304. Did fmf have a round silencer? I can't remember.
Both bikes will get a PWK and reeds.
Footpegs...I don't know of any particular brand that are "lower" as such. You may have to move the mounts. I can tell you that late model YZF pegs bolt straight on. OEM ones are Ti and you can usually pick them up lightly used pretty cheap!
Power...these motors ripped up top! They are tractors that rev to the moon. It could be a number of things like worn power valves or heavy carbon deposits on the power valve etc. But these motors certainly didn't lack top end.
It's a PC silencer you have there. The old style with the stinger. They're sought after so see if you can resurrect that one. If you want to sell it let me know
PC silencers were round while FMF ran oval silencers.
Have you decided what you'll use for the taller seat?
I also saw those fastways just wondering if any had experience with them. Since MCfan4life stated that YZF pegs work then i should be able to find something to lower easily.
My sons Yz85 pegs look to fit also if the pin diameter is the same. He has 2 extra sets of stock for some reason. So i reason yamaha ran the same pegs across the bike models.
MCfan- I figure its a combination of powervalve/ reeds/ carb needing attention. The guy i got it from only knew that it supposedly has a new Oem honda bottom end and wiseco piston. It feel like it has excellent compression so maybe thats true. I noticed the left hand case is cracked so ill probably pull it down and weld it up. Then ill know what it looks like inside.
I will say this, they really do turn sweet. We plowed alittle ground and made a couple of good rutted lines. With a half bald rear tire and junk front i could still drag the bars after 13 years off a bike!
I raced CR125s during this era so enjoy seeing these 90s Honda builds. Good luck with it.
Pit Row
She wants a bike now so its all working out......
Alittle flo yellow from across the pond...
Banana_oil hooked me up with this custom Technosel seat cover. Thats a new ceet medium density tall foam underneath. About an inch taller.
I bought a front hub off ebay and chucked in a lathe at work and smoothed it up. Powdercoated translucent blue.
Bought some new gold excel's and dubya bulldog spokes and nipples. Assembled the front wheel tonight.
Just my opinion obviously but i think it looks damn sexy!
Here's a taste of the color combos for now....
I'll have a flo yellow front plate, fender and fork guards. My side panels and rear fender will be white.
I had to trim quite abit of the graphics to get them to fit and line up how i liked between the shrouds and fuel tank.
Love the Yellow. I have Mad Mike Jones's 96 race bike here ATM, it was stolen a while back and rattle canned so I'm doing a resto for my mate that owns it.
Im wondering about motor combos. I have a PC pipe and the repacked R304, v-force 3. Im going to go with a sudco carb. Debating on porting myself or having it done. Raising compression and put it on race gas or leave it pump gas. $$$ is not an issue but im overweight and even though im getting in better shape i'll still be heavy compared to 99% of riders out there. Hp is a must.
Any ideas or suggestions are welcome!
Greg
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