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1/27/2018 8:15am
sgrimmxdad wrote:
You guys have Cooper all wrong. I have only been around him a few times. Each time he had a large group of friends around him...
You guys have Cooper all wrong. I have only been around him a few times. Each time he had a large group of friends around him, if you didn't know he was the reason they where all around you would have no clue he was "the guy." Always pretty quite and reserved looking at his phone. If you knew him or his parents you would know he isn't the "punk" a lot of people think he is... His parents are very humble, nice and down to earth people, he seems to be too every time I have seen him in person.
True, met him in 2016 when he and swanie came over to us one night for dinner, very low key and didint say much, he just played a bit of pool and hung out, didint want to speak moto or anything like that
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1/27/2018 8:17am
I want more attitudes like his! Cooper Webb is the classic personality we've been MISSING imo. We've got more than enough cordiality in a sport that's tamer in many respects compared with days of yore., We need more Hannah's, Johnson's, Bradshaw's -- let's cheer this guy on and stop complaining. Cooper's a classic MX personality. Hoping he has a breakthrough ride in Phoenix.
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1/27/2018 10:50am
I want more attitudes like his! Cooper Webb is the classic personality we've been MISSING imo. We've got more than enough cordiality in a sport that's...
I want more attitudes like his! Cooper Webb is the classic personality we've been MISSING imo. We've got more than enough cordiality in a sport that's tamer in many respects compared with days of yore., We need more Hannah's, Johnson's, Bradshaw's -- let's cheer this guy on and stop complaining. Cooper's a classic MX personality. Hoping he has a breakthrough ride in Phoenix.
Cheer him on for lack lustre results and making excuses?
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1/27/2018 11:35am Edited Date/Time 1/27/2018 11:43am
I want more attitudes like his! Cooper Webb is the classic personality we've been MISSING imo. We've got more than enough cordiality in a sport that's...
I want more attitudes like his! Cooper Webb is the classic personality we've been MISSING imo. We've got more than enough cordiality in a sport that's tamer in many respects compared with days of yore., We need more Hannah's, Johnson's, Bradshaw's -- let's cheer this guy on and stop complaining. Cooper's a classic MX personality. Hoping he has a breakthrough ride in Phoenix.
Tuna wrote:
Cheer him on for lack lustre results and making excuses?
I mean, that's not what I said, but yes why not cheer someone on when they have as much potential as CW? Perhaps it was another thread but I've seen mostly complaining about his "attitude". Then again a lot of Vital members complain on riders for various, baseless things. Stewart is the #1 recipient of that.

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I want more attitudes like his! Cooper Webb is the classic personality we've been MISSING imo. We've got more than enough cordiality in a sport that's...
I want more attitudes like his! Cooper Webb is the classic personality we've been MISSING imo. We've got more than enough cordiality in a sport that's tamer in many respects compared with days of yore., We need more Hannah's, Johnson's, Bradshaw's -- let's cheer this guy on and stop complaining. Cooper's a classic MX personality. Hoping he has a breakthrough ride in Phoenix.
Tuna wrote:
Cheer him on for lack lustre results and making excuses?
I mean, that's not what I said, but yes why not cheer someone on when they have as much potential as CW? Perhaps it was another...
I mean, that's not what I said, but yes why not cheer someone on when they have as much potential as CW? Perhaps it was another thread but I've seen mostly complaining about his "attitude". Then again a lot of Vital members complain on riders for various, baseless things. Stewart is the #1 recipient of that.
I’d love to have a reason to cheer him on. I’ve been cheering him on for years. I won’t be cheering anymore for him. I also said that about Barcia but the last 3 races I was rooting for him so there is still hope I guess. I have no favourite rider but I would like to see Kenny do well this year.
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1/27/2018 12:03pm
Tuna wrote:
I’d love to have a reason to cheer him on. I’ve been cheering him on for years. I won’t be cheering anymore for him. I also...
I’d love to have a reason to cheer him on. I’ve been cheering him on for years. I won’t be cheering anymore for him. I also said that about Barcia but the last 3 races I was rooting for him so there is still hope I guess. I have no favourite rider but I would like to see Kenny do well this year.
Yeah there's several riders that would bring the stadium to its feet if they got out front. Kenny would be one, also Barcia, but if Cooper somehow did it, it would be a more ominous feeling I think.
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1/27/2018 2:49pm
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What amazes me, is that you guys have overlooked that Kenny has called a young girl a "hoe" on a public forum. Imagine her father reads...
What amazes me, is that you guys have overlooked that Kenny has called a young girl a "hoe" on a public forum. Imagine her father reads his post. If it was me and he said that to my daughter on a public space, irrespective, I would knock him the FO.
305FC250 wrote:
Better yet I'd re-evaluate my parenting and then go ask my daughter why she's out doing hoe shit getting passed around in the same sphere of...
Better yet I'd re-evaluate my parenting and then go ask my daughter why she's out doing hoe shit getting passed around in the same sphere of people and cheating in her relationships, creating that reputation for herself. Not gona be mad at a dude for saying it if it's true.
mattyhamz2 wrote:
Did I miss where it was proved that she was cheating and getting passed around? As far as I know she was with Ken and now...
Did I miss where it was proved that she was cheating and getting passed around? As far as I know she was with Ken and now Cooper. Just because Ken said shes a "hoe" doesn't mean she actually did something, other than break up with him. How many guys refer to their exes as "hoes" after a break up because they are pissed about it? I know many that have.

I'm just saying, without proof that she was actually cheating and "being passed around" I think its pretty messed up to say about her. Maybe Ken was getting too caught up in her that it was messing with his head. much like cooper right now. I'm not a fan of saying stuff about women like that without actual proof of it.
She fucked adam cianciarulo while dating ken. So yes you did miss something.
1/27/2018 3:00pm
Moens_Andy wrote:
Dont get the fuzz about the ex of kenny to be honest. There was a guy that replied to Kenny's picture that he should go back...
Dont get the fuzz about the ex of kenny to be honest.

There was a guy that replied to Kenny's picture that he should go back to his ex because his fiance is ugly.
Kenny replied: Well if you want a hoe and a headache go for it.

thats all he said.

Mariah fucked AC when she was with Kenny so is Kenny wrong here or is he just speaking the truth??

Webb is a punk ass bitch for stating that he was going to humble up some people. If you talk the talk make sure you can back it up.
Pussy been downfall of many good men?
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1/27/2018 3:12pm
sgrimmxdad wrote:
You guys have Cooper all wrong. I have only been around him a few times. Each time he had a large group of friends around him...
You guys have Cooper all wrong. I have only been around him a few times. Each time he had a large group of friends around him, if you didn't know he was the reason they where all around you would have no clue he was "the guy." Always pretty quite and reserved looking at his phone. If you knew him or his parents you would know he isn't the "punk" a lot of people think he is... His parents are very humble, nice and down to earth people, he seems to be too every time I have seen him in person.
It's funny because you're trying to say something that makes sense, on Vital.
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1/27/2018 3:42pm
305FC250 wrote:
Better yet I'd re-evaluate my parenting and then go ask my daughter why she's out doing hoe shit getting passed around in the same sphere of...
Better yet I'd re-evaluate my parenting and then go ask my daughter why she's out doing hoe shit getting passed around in the same sphere of people and cheating in her relationships, creating that reputation for herself. Not gona be mad at a dude for saying it if it's true.
mattyhamz2 wrote:
Did I miss where it was proved that she was cheating and getting passed around? As far as I know she was with Ken and now...
Did I miss where it was proved that she was cheating and getting passed around? As far as I know she was with Ken and now Cooper. Just because Ken said shes a "hoe" doesn't mean she actually did something, other than break up with him. How many guys refer to their exes as "hoes" after a break up because they are pissed about it? I know many that have.

I'm just saying, without proof that she was actually cheating and "being passed around" I think its pretty messed up to say about her. Maybe Ken was getting too caught up in her that it was messing with his head. much like cooper right now. I'm not a fan of saying stuff about women like that without actual proof of it.
drt410 wrote:
She fucked adam cianciarulo while dating ken. So yes you did miss something.
Fair enough, but is there actual proof that is happened? Or just someone running their mouth thinking they know what happened? Says the same about AC as it does her. If it actually did happen, it’s horrible on her part, but also horrible from AC knowing she was kens and still doing it in the first place. Same as Davalos doing the same with Colliers wife when they were teammates on Star and Collier was at home hurt.
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cooper tyres on the ground go round and round
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I want more attitudes like his! Cooper Webb is the classic personality we've been MISSING imo. We've got more than enough cordiality in a sport that's...
I want more attitudes like his! Cooper Webb is the classic personality we've been MISSING imo. We've got more than enough cordiality in a sport that's tamer in many respects compared with days of yore., We need more Hannah's, Johnson's, Bradshaw's -- let's cheer this guy on and stop complaining. Cooper's a classic MX personality. Hoping he has a breakthrough ride in Phoenix.
See I like the guys like Webb and barcia when they are racing the people in front of them I didn’t like when they both moved up and started getting their asses handed to them and start doing asshole moves on everyone who try’s to pass them that’s not racing that’s roadblocking
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1/27/2018 6:09pm
Well, he sure had the boat anchor out that race, man
1/27/2018 6:13pm
Please tell me someone just saw how terribly cooper Webb just rode in that first heat race. He went from like 4th to 9th. Baggett and seely who fell in the first turn came back to pass him! It wasn't how fast everyone else was going it was how slow and terrible he looked. The second to last lap in the whoops!!?? His corner speed and lack of aggression and flow. No one in the announcers booth commented on it. The only thing that was said was how he was catching Freise but that's not even what happened, at that point Freise had passed him!

Something is definitely not right. It's one thing not to be as good as everyone expected him to be, but this is really really strange.

Did anyone else notice this in the first 450 main? Thoughts?
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RedDirtDog wrote:
damn i didnt realize webb's probems were his girl.. lame
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Please tell me someone just saw how terribly cooper Webb just rode in that first heat race. He went from like 4th to 9th. Baggett and...
Please tell me someone just saw how terribly cooper Webb just rode in that first heat race. He went from like 4th to 9th. Baggett and seely who fell in the first turn came back to pass him! It wasn't how fast everyone else was going it was how slow and terrible he looked. The second to last lap in the whoops!!?? His corner speed and lack of aggression and flow. No one in the announcers booth commented on it. The only thing that was said was how he was catching Freise but that's not even what happened, at that point Freise had passed him!

Something is definitely not right. It's one thing not to be as good as everyone expected him to be, but this is really really strange.

Did anyone else notice this in the first 450 main? Thoughts?
I know what would happen at my work if I kept putting in performances like that. Wow. At this point I hope Webb has had a series of injuries that nobody knew about. Otherwise, he is doing so poorly it is time for the PR that says "Webb sprains ankle, fill in rider ready for this weekend".
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1/27/2018 7:47pm Edited Date/Time 1/27/2018 7:54pm
Aaaaaand hes in 10th again. Cooper “10th place guy” webb.
1/27/2018 8:00pm
305FC250 wrote:
Better yet I'd re-evaluate my parenting and then go ask my daughter why she's out doing hoe shit getting passed around in the same sphere of...
Better yet I'd re-evaluate my parenting and then go ask my daughter why she's out doing hoe shit getting passed around in the same sphere of people and cheating in her relationships, creating that reputation for herself. Not gona be mad at a dude for saying it if it's true.
mattyhamz2 wrote:
Did I miss where it was proved that she was cheating and getting passed around? As far as I know she was with Ken and now...
Did I miss where it was proved that she was cheating and getting passed around? As far as I know she was with Ken and now Cooper. Just because Ken said shes a "hoe" doesn't mean she actually did something, other than break up with him. How many guys refer to their exes as "hoes" after a break up because they are pissed about it? I know many that have.

I'm just saying, without proof that she was actually cheating and "being passed around" I think its pretty messed up to say about her. Maybe Ken was getting too caught up in her that it was messing with his head. much like cooper right now. I'm not a fan of saying stuff about women like that without actual proof of it.
drt410 wrote:
She fucked adam cianciarulo while dating ken. So yes you did miss something.
If that happened, if, I find it odd that Kenny and AC are still such good friends. I know if that happened to me I wouldn’t be friends with him anymore
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1/27/2018 8:14pm Edited Date/Time 1/27/2018 8:15pm
Please tell me someone just saw how terribly cooper Webb just rode in that first heat race. He went from like 4th to 9th. Baggett and...
Please tell me someone just saw how terribly cooper Webb just rode in that first heat race. He went from like 4th to 9th. Baggett and seely who fell in the first turn came back to pass him! It wasn't how fast everyone else was going it was how slow and terrible he looked. The second to last lap in the whoops!!?? His corner speed and lack of aggression and flow. No one in the announcers booth commented on it. The only thing that was said was how he was catching Freise but that's not even what happened, at that point Freise had passed him!

Something is definitely not right. It's one thing not to be as good as everyone expected him to be, but this is really really strange.

Did anyone else notice this in the first 450 main? Thoughts?
Meanwhile, Webb finished ahead of both of them in the main!

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mattyhamz2 wrote:
Did I miss where it was proved that she was cheating and getting passed around? As far as I know she was with Ken and now...
Did I miss where it was proved that she was cheating and getting passed around? As far as I know she was with Ken and now Cooper. Just because Ken said shes a "hoe" doesn't mean she actually did something, other than break up with him. How many guys refer to their exes as "hoes" after a break up because they are pissed about it? I know many that have.

I'm just saying, without proof that she was actually cheating and "being passed around" I think its pretty messed up to say about her. Maybe Ken was getting too caught up in her that it was messing with his head. much like cooper right now. I'm not a fan of saying stuff about women like that without actual proof of it.
drt410 wrote:
She fucked adam cianciarulo while dating ken. So yes you did miss something.
If that happened, if, I find it odd that Kenny and AC are still such good friends. I know if that happened to me I wouldn’t...
If that happened, if, I find it odd that Kenny and AC are still such good friends. I know if that happened to me I wouldn’t be friends with him anymore
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When yo you paid close around $2M to perform on a bike and you sitting 11th behind 2 riders who have missed races there has to be some concern.

Does he hate the team? Does he simply not have it on a 450? Is his training wrong? Is his approach and drive wrong?

My personal opinion is that he hasn't made any progression forward since last year. For whatever reason that is, he needs to evaluate it and make correct step going forward to change that for the better. If that means a whole new team, trainer, friends and clean house totally, so be it. If its simply this is the best Coper is in the big boy class, so be it but then he needs to accept the salary and rides going forward he will be offered.
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1/27/2018 8:35pm Edited Date/Time 1/27/2018 8:36pm
Have any of you guys thought that maybe the guys finishing in front of him are just better? Sometimes there is no rhyme or reason to how someone finishes. I think Tickle is in the same boat. Just a consistently around 10th place guy.
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Thank god for Barcia or else this place would be shitting on the YZF
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Pussy been downfall of many good men?
Yes indeed, and will be the downfall for many more to come.
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1/27/2018 9:00pm Edited Date/Time 1/27/2018 9:13pm
Thank god for Barcia or else this place would be shitting on the YZF
Yea its a great bike this year most everyone loves it. Barcia is proving that it is capable as well. The 250 RMZ is probably the only bike you can say at this point is way behind on tech. Barcia is killing it, Webb is crapping his pants. It aint the bike and its ironic that Barcia the fill in guy just demolished whatever excuse webb was going to try to use to get a payday somewhere else. Not happening bud. I think him and JGR would be a perfect fit. They love to sign people who dont produce jack shat for results while having some of the best support and r&d there is. He was made for JGR. Sign him with high hopes it was the bike and that hell come give em a championship, give him a great bike and great support, then he can go out and pussy fart around in 10th and fail and itll just be business as usual. Honestly I feel bad for them they cant sign a rider who can deliver to save their lives. I hope when Bogle comes back he can get some good finishes. One thing I do know is off the couch hell be better than webb.

Gonna be funny too when Cianciarulo steps up to 450s and blows his friggin doors off. For a while it was looking like webb was the villopoto to AC's Alessi, but nope. AC is gonna step up to the 450s in a year or two and smack webb up. Jeremy Martin was winning everything in the 250s at one point too then Cooper became better than him and started killin him and won a bunch. Now Martin steps up to the 450s to screw around and is smoking him there now too. Webb bro change somethingggggg, anythinggggg. What your doing isnt working. If you keep doing the same thing expecting different results its not gonna happen. I dont care if you need to do tai chi to gain an edge do somethin bro. Your disappointing EVERYONE and your embarrasing youtself. Twist the friggin throttle and see if that helps... You can see in his riding hes defeated mentally. Thats a bad spot to be in and doesnt lead to advancement. He just lets people by because he thinks he sux, which right now he does, but he doesnt. He needs to get a good start and lead a little bit, or win a heat or something. Anything to get his confidence back because thats 80% of the prob. His nuts are gone. He needs to win something and get em back and get something under his belt to build off.
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1/27/2018 9:08pm Edited Date/Time 1/27/2018 9:10pm
Thank god for Barcia or else this place would be shitting on the YZF
drt410 wrote:
Yea its a great bike this year most everyone loves it. Barcia is proving that it is capable as well. The 250 RMZ is probably the...
Yea its a great bike this year most everyone loves it. Barcia is proving that it is capable as well. The 250 RMZ is probably the only bike you can say at this point is way behind on tech. Barcia is killing it, Webb is crapping his pants. It aint the bike and its ironic that Barcia the fill in guy just demolished whatever excuse webb was going to try to use to get a payday somewhere else. Not happening bud. I think him and JGR would be a perfect fit. They love to sign people who dont produce jack shat for results while having some of the best support and r&d there is. He was made for JGR. Sign him with high hopes it was the bike and that hell come give em a championship, give him a great bike and great support, then he can go out and pussy fart around in 10th and fail and itll just be business as usual. Honestly I feel bad for them they cant sign a rider who can deliver to save their lives. I hope when Bogle comes back he can get some good finishes. One thing I do know is off the couch hell be better than webb.

Gonna be funny too when Cianciarulo steps up to 450s and blows his friggin doors off. For a while it was looking like webb was the villopoto to AC's Alessi, but nope. AC is gonna step up to the 450s in a year or two and smack webb up. Jeremy Martin was winning everything in the 250s at one point too then Cooper became better than him and started killin him and won a bunch. Now Martin steps up to the 450s to screw around and is smoking him there now too. Webb bro change somethingggggg, anythinggggg. What your doing isnt working. If you keep doing the same thing expecting different results its not gonna happen. I dont care if you need to do tai chi to gain an edge do somethin bro. Your disappointing EVERYONE and your embarrasing youtself. Twist the friggin throttle and see if that helps... You can see in his riding hes defeated mentally. Thats a bad spot to be in and doesnt lead to advancement. He just lets people by because he thinks he sux, which right now he does, but he doesnt. He needs to get a good start and lead a little bit, or win a heat or something. Anything to get his confidence back because thats 80% of the prob. His nuts are gone. He needs to win something and get em back and get something under his belt to build off.
Bogle didn’t look great.

Who knows what’s going on with coop. Just missing that fire
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1/27/2018 10:33pm
colonel wrote:
When yo you paid close around $2M to perform on a bike and you sitting 11th behind 2 riders who have missed races there has to...
When yo you paid close around $2M to perform on a bike and you sitting 11th behind 2 riders who have missed races there has to be some concern.

Does he hate the team? Does he simply not have it on a 450? Is his training wrong? Is his approach and drive wrong?

My personal opinion is that he hasn't made any progression forward since last year. For whatever reason that is, he needs to evaluate it and make correct step going forward to change that for the better. If that means a whole new team, trainer, friends and clean house totally, so be it. If its simply this is the best Coper is in the big boy class, so be it but then he needs to accept the salary and rides going forward he will be offered.
I posted in another thread, but talked to someone very close to Webb. He can't find a set up that gets him comfortable on the bike and basically, he doesn't like it. That doesn't mean it's the bike's fault - it's a fantastic bike. I want one.
Webb just can't get it figured out. Barcia on the other hand, has it figured out. It's 100% Webb, no injuries, team is fine, all else is fine. Just ain't jiving with the bike and his confidence in it is shot.
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1/27/2018 11:04pm
Thank god for Barcia or else this place would be shitting on the YZF
drt410 wrote:
Yea its a great bike this year most everyone loves it. Barcia is proving that it is capable as well. The 250 RMZ is probably the...
Yea its a great bike this year most everyone loves it. Barcia is proving that it is capable as well. The 250 RMZ is probably the only bike you can say at this point is way behind on tech. Barcia is killing it, Webb is crapping his pants. It aint the bike and its ironic that Barcia the fill in guy just demolished whatever excuse webb was going to try to use to get a payday somewhere else. Not happening bud. I think him and JGR would be a perfect fit. They love to sign people who dont produce jack shat for results while having some of the best support and r&d there is. He was made for JGR. Sign him with high hopes it was the bike and that hell come give em a championship, give him a great bike and great support, then he can go out and pussy fart around in 10th and fail and itll just be business as usual. Honestly I feel bad for them they cant sign a rider who can deliver to save their lives. I hope when Bogle comes back he can get some good finishes. One thing I do know is off the couch hell be better than webb.

Gonna be funny too when Cianciarulo steps up to 450s and blows his friggin doors off. For a while it was looking like webb was the villopoto to AC's Alessi, but nope. AC is gonna step up to the 450s in a year or two and smack webb up. Jeremy Martin was winning everything in the 250s at one point too then Cooper became better than him and started killin him and won a bunch. Now Martin steps up to the 450s to screw around and is smoking him there now too. Webb bro change somethingggggg, anythinggggg. What your doing isnt working. If you keep doing the same thing expecting different results its not gonna happen. I dont care if you need to do tai chi to gain an edge do somethin bro. Your disappointing EVERYONE and your embarrasing youtself. Twist the friggin throttle and see if that helps... You can see in his riding hes defeated mentally. Thats a bad spot to be in and doesnt lead to advancement. He just lets people by because he thinks he sux, which right now he does, but he doesnt. He needs to get a good start and lead a little bit, or win a heat or something. Anything to get his confidence back because thats 80% of the prob. His nuts are gone. He needs to win something and get em back and get something under his belt to build off.
Bogle didn’t look great.

Who knows what’s going on with coop. Just missing that fire
Hold on a minute...AC has how many 250 titles...almost everyone on here is dissing on Cooper for being where he is. RC didn't kill it the first couple years. Nor has JA 21, CS14. KR94, ET3, MM25 and quite a few more, Cooper will be there. It takes some time to adjust and find the flow of the class. No diss on AC or any of the other riders, everyone comes into their own in time...or they don't. Only time will tell.

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