WHERE Do - ALL The Old Dirt Bikes Go ?

Rupert X
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Edited Date/Time 12/16/2012 10:39pm
No, seriously - where the hell do they go ? Most folks now are racing their 2008 - 2013 machines -

many poor folk, like myself - might be operating 2004-2007 artifacts, but it does seem that mx machines

and older dirt bikes just magically run off somewhere....Here in Ohio, the answer is that they all end up

" On a farm in Kentucky ", but, truth is, we don't know where the hell they all go...

You guys got any answers ? And let's not all blame Creepslist, although, might be something to that....
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Lone Wolf
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11/19/2012 6:12pm
This is something I have always wondered (truly). At a motocross meeting over here, the majority of the bikes are one or two years old. At trail rides you see a fair number of three to five year old bikes. But where do they go after that? I guess they just end up getting scrapped or laying in somebody's shed.
manering
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11/19/2012 6:15pm
they return to the earth from whence they came
TerryK
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11/19/2012 6:16pm
Parted out on eBay. True story.

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bigmaico
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11/19/2012 6:16pm
I'd Love to have a 08' I'm still riding an 03' KTM & my other race bike is even older than that!

It a 81' 490 Maico.

But I do see some guys that just ride a few times a year riding 03' to 2010's

Also see a few still racing 10's & up.

I think the trend will be for most to hang on to their bike a few years longer now that the econmeny is tight.
Rupert X
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11/19/2012 6:51pm
It's a great, wonderful, mystery of science.

I mean you don't see any '98 CR250's around - nor 2005 RMZ250's or 2003 CRF 450's.

It's almost like one man, perhaps like that PRIMM guy in Vegas - has this six Jillian S.F warehouse,

with everyone's old dirt bikes stowed and cataloged. It is absolutely bind moggling.

One fine day we shall uncover this mystery - and we shall rejoice.















Hando
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11/19/2012 6:57pm
i think alot of people have motocross bikes and other motorcylces just sitting in their garages/sheds ...only a select few can afford to ride every weekend all year round, if they live in a place that permits it..

i try to get out every weekend from spring to fall, but i'd be willing to bet alot of people do this as well but after a long winter and life being thrown in to the mix..sometimes it gets forgotten.

I happen to see alot of older CR's.....never see anything else really, with the occasional clunker thrown in (mid 90s KX or RM)

Todays moto-consumer is smart..they know which bikes are good and which ones aren't.
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11/19/2012 7:11pm
Might be an already answered question...but what about all the old race team bikes from previous seasons?
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11/19/2012 7:12pm
Glamis, ocotillo wells, Oregon sand dunes etc. Usually the bikes have morphed into hybrids at this point, with parts thrown together from a varying species of motorized vehicles. Just a couple weeks ago I ran into a rm 250 Chassis, kx 500 "custom" extened swingarm with a cr500 motor. Naturally the pilot of this machine spreads the love around when it comes to gear, wearing at no time less than 5 different gear brands mixed in with cameo casual wear, glove as par are optional.
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11/19/2012 7:12pm
I happen to have a 98 cr250 in my garage actually!
Rupert X
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11/19/2012 7:18pm
PTECH wrote:
I happen to have a 98 cr250 in my garage actually!
Mystery partially solved.
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11/19/2012 8:17pm
TerryK wrote:
Parted out on eBay. True story.
^^ this ^^

sad but true, the fate of many vintage race bikes is to be dismembered and scattered to the highest bidder.
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11/19/2012 8:31pm
Old bikes you say......I have about 60 or more MX bikes (mid 60's to mid 70's) in dry storage. Wanna buy one twoSmile some are real nice some are projects. Only two are from the orient....AT1 in MX trim and a real nice A4
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4 strokes are easy. Older ones are sitting in the corner of a garage needing the top end done.
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11/19/2012 9:04pm Edited Date/Time 11/19/2012 9:05pm
Rupert X wrote:
No, seriously - where the hell do they go ? Most folks now are racing their 2008 - 2013 machines - many poor folk, like myself...
No, seriously - where the hell do they go ? Most folks now are racing their 2008 - 2013 machines -

many poor folk, like myself - might be operating 2004-2007 artifacts, but it does seem that mx machines

and older dirt bikes just magically run off somewhere....Here in Ohio, the answer is that they all end up

" On a farm in Kentucky ", but, truth is, we don't know where the hell they all go...

You guys got any answers ? And let's not all blame Creepslist, although, might be something to that....
Rupe-dog, it goes something like this. With each buyer, use of motorcycle drops by 25%, with the exception of the sixth buyer.

New buyer: Fast local racer (year 1)
Second buyer: another local racer, maybe fast, maybe not (year 3)
Third buyer: novice / beginner racer (year 4-5)
Fourth Buyer: Trail rider - older dude who is tight on cash (year 6)
Fifth buyer: Trail riders buddy who is a tag along but barely rides (year 8)
Sixth buyer: Kid who spray paints the bike black and rides the piss out of it. Might add mix and match parts, such as Yamaha plastic to a Honda. Liberal backyard mechanics take over at this point. Home depot bolts are the norm. (year 9-10)
Seventh buyer: ebay parter outter (year 10)
Eight buyer: See new buyer up top - hoping to relive his glory days when he was fast
11/19/2012 10:14pm Edited Date/Time 11/19/2012 10:32pm
mxnick wrote:
Rupe-dog, it goes something like this. With each buyer, use of motorcycle drops by 25%, with the exception of the sixth buyer. New buyer: Fast local...
Rupe-dog, it goes something like this. With each buyer, use of motorcycle drops by 25%, with the exception of the sixth buyer.

New buyer: Fast local racer (year 1)
Second buyer: another local racer, maybe fast, maybe not (year 3)
Third buyer: novice / beginner racer (year 4-5)
Fourth Buyer: Trail rider - older dude who is tight on cash (year 6)
Fifth buyer: Trail riders buddy who is a tag along but barely rides (year 8)
Sixth buyer: Kid who spray paints the bike black and rides the piss out of it. Might add mix and match parts, such as Yamaha plastic to a Honda. Liberal backyard mechanics take over at this point. Home depot bolts are the norm. (year 9-10)
Seventh buyer: ebay parter outter (year 10)
Eight buyer: See new buyer up top - hoping to relive his glory days when he was fast
The eighth buyer winds up with the same bike he bought new when he was a fast local.

https://youtu.be/EEJqejHDHQg

p.s. on the way out of Phoenix there's motorcycle graveyard along a northbound highway, used to pass it with my pap pap on our camping excursions. Thousands of scrapped-looking bikes jammed standing up in front of a little building, chain-link around everything. Not sure if any of it is for sale or what.

ACTUALLY it might be not so much along the highway as in a little town. Or both. Whatev.
Hando
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11/19/2012 10:34pm
Myke wrote:
4 strokes are easy. Older ones are sitting in the corner of a garage needing the top end done.
yup..many a 250F are roller chassis'.

Prime candidates for 2-stroke conversions!
11/20/2012 1:27am
I've often wondered the same thing myself.

It's been good to see the apparent increasing popularity in doing up and restoring older bikes on this site. I'm doing one myself, albeit at a very slow rate. But it's nice to know at least some of the old classics won't be lost forever as long as people are doing restorations.
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11/20/2012 3:53am
Hate to say it, but my guess is the bulk end up in scrapyards.
A motor get's pulled, it never get's rebuilt, the chassis sit's out back,
rusting away, poof, 4 years it's scrap.
JustMX
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11/20/2012 5:12am
a know where my '94 yz 250 is..........
RM Mike
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11/20/2012 8:01am
What about all the new-unsold bikes?
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11/20/2012 8:24am Edited Date/Time 11/20/2012 8:25am
Is it just me or are we going to miss the original 2-strokes that haven't had the engines robbed for AF projects?

I used to think the CR500AF's were bitchen, but now I get more of a boner when I see a nice unmolested old school CR500.
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11/20/2012 8:34am
TerryK wrote:
Parted out on eBay. True story.
prillernut wrote:
^^ this ^^

sad but true, the fate of many vintage race bikes is to be dismembered and scattered to the highest bidder.
Ya, but if someone is buying parts on Ebay, they'd have to have an old dirt bike to put them on.

Right?
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11/20/2012 8:45am
Rup, i sure hope you have your hard drive backed up. Some day your picture archive will be a museum in itself.
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11/20/2012 9:18am
Most old two strokes ended up in the farmyards and gravel pits of the world. And most of them are still out there running...its still not uncommon to see vintage '80s Hondas putting around.

The four strokes essentially are viewed as worthless junk by the time the second owner is through with them. They are usually parted out or go to scrap.
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11/20/2012 10:38am
I have a 2003 CR 250R, a 2006 YZ 125, and 2007 CRF 450. All of them are damn near as clean as they were new. They don't really seem that old to me though...
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11/20/2012 12:04pm
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Newmann s garage.
Laughing

Cool story here. A friend of mine used to take photos for Gulf Coast Cycle News back in the 70's and would be on the floor of the Astrodome on amateur day. Being a Jeff Ward Mini Elsinore freak, he brought me a couple good photos a few years back of a JWRP mini getting put through the paces in the dome by a fast Texas kid. Always wondered where that ultra rare little machine ended up. Then just yesterday a fellow Vital member from the Dallas area emails me some pics of his latest Craigslist find . It is the same damn bike in original unmolested condition. It looks a little rough, but it is exactly as it was last raced even after being sold. A super rare find and to find it with the same race number and all was beyond cool. A true to life hand built works supermini.

Mike Lagaza Photo circa 1977


Fresh from the barn after 35 years.
Surfinglbi23
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11/20/2012 1:08pm
I agree with the statement that stuff winds up just sitting in sheds and garages. When I bought my 97 RM125 a year or two ago, it had maybe 10 hours on it. Dad bought for son, son flipped it a few months in and never touched it again. Younger brother decided to add a graphics kit and seat cover to it but then mom said no more riding. Anyway, fast forward 15 years. Kid is gone, dad and mom are downsizing. Craigslist ad says, "Old suzuki dirtbikes, must sell, $500 cash each call". I go over there and they have probably 4 nearly mint mid 90's bikes. I was able to scoop up 3 of them and he was going to "give the rest to his neighbor". Seriously, this is reality for some folks.

And some bikes are parted out for the good stuff and literally the remains are thrown away. Even I did it, when I moved to my new place, I threw out a bunch of junk that wouldn't sell. I sold off some parts lots on Craigslist and eBay but probably tossed 3 old frames, some banged up wheels etc.
11/20/2012 1:17pm
mbagley726 wrote:
Might be an already answered question...but what about all the old race team bikes from previous seasons?
They dont want their technology getting out so my understanding is they crush them and send it all to the junkyard Sad .

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