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I mean he is passing the best riders in the world like they are standing still. Quite embarrassing actually.
So why? What is so different?
Bike setup
One thing I noticed is how tall and stiff his bike is. It looks like he is riding a 500. Dungey looks like he is riding an 80.
Some of the best riders in history like Stewart and villopoto have rode there bikes very stiff and it allows them to dominate.
The down side is you have to learn to ride the bike like that. It takes time and changing technique and allows you to ride a different limit and go faster in the whoops where tomac was picking up almost a second just there.
The problem with this setup is it's high reward high risk. It allowed rozcen to dominate also.
I would of loved to see tomac of last night against roczen. We really did get screwed as race fans when rozcen got hurt.
Thoughts on tomac domination?
So why? What is so different?
Bike setup
One thing I noticed is how tall and stiff his bike is. It looks like he is riding a 500. Dungey looks like he is riding an 80.
Some of the best riders in history like Stewart and villopoto have rode there bikes very stiff and it allows them to dominate.
The down side is you have to learn to ride the bike like that. It takes time and changing technique and allows you to ride a different limit and go faster in the whoops where tomac was picking up almost a second just there.
The problem with this setup is it's high reward high risk. It allowed rozcen to dominate also.
I would of loved to see tomac of last night against roczen. We really did get screwed as race fans when rozcen got hurt.
Thoughts on tomac domination?
It's not the bike, it's him.
He has the confidence and aggression. RV had that also. Dungey has had it before also.
Did you notice his body positioning going through those whoops? Crouched down, elbows up, head forward over the handlebars. That was something special we got to watch last night. Good for him!
The Shop
The Eli we saw at the early rounds of the outdoors in 2015 is the same Eli we're seeing now IMO. He ended up getting hurt pretty bad and I think that set him pretty far back, and continued to hold him back through most of 2016 but I think he's back to form and ready to take on anyone in the world.
As to why hes dominating. Hes that good. Took a lil bit to come back from serious surgeries and learn a new bike but they have it figured out.
Why is he not creating half the buzz that Stewart did when he put on a show even less dominate or convincing....He has been dominating all year....Dungey is FAST..Announcers act like he should be labeled Mr. Consistency...Take Tomac out of the equation and ask the other riders if Dungey is fast or not.
Pit Row
It is YOU that are behaving like a racist and backing up the peculiar fact that I already pointed out...
Just ignore it and use the block feature accordingly. This is not saying I agree or disagree with your initial post, just agreeing with your comment about being called a moron by a Vitard.
Back on topic, to the OP, you stated KR is also running a super stiff bike? I think it has been widely publicized that he rides a very soft sprung bike, even to the point that it may have caused his last two ejections off the Honda. Theres several articles about how he runs softer suspension and more stockish components.
However, I really do not think the stiff bike is the reason why Eli is killing it. I think RC ran a really soft rear, and so did RV and we dont know what RD runs. Basically its all over the board.
Eli is killing it because he is in his PRIME, he is gelling with his team, and the competition has NOTHING for him.
Sad but true, we only have 3 elite riders in the US, and one has a broken arm, and the other is in the sunset of his career. The rest of the riders are just very good Pro's, but they cannot compete with an Elite rider for 17 weeks. Every now and then Eli will have an off weekend and allow a JA21 or MM25 to have a win, but those guys CANNOT compete with him over 17 weeks.
Its always been this way, from MC, RC, JS7, RV, RD, now ET and KR.
Consider the Eli vs Roczen to be like Reed vs Stew.
A Chase is not going to fix this.
- Intensity and power of riding
- Mentality of warrior
- Big heart for big jump's
- Physics.
- Maturity
Tomac looks like 90' riders with more technics, so powerfull.
Hello from Everts land all.
Dungey lost loads of time in them unknowingly and had he picked up on that 8 laps earlier, he might have been able to hang on for a few more laps.
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