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Edited Date/Time 12/13/2012 5:52am
I am watching this pretty freakin amazing show on History Channel called "WW2 From Space" Some pretty mind blowing stuff!

I know there are a ton of us history / war buffs on here and if you didnt get a change to watch this show tonight, be damn well sure you catch a re-air or even on-demand.



I love this stuff! shit today i spent a good 5 hours re-watching "WWII in HD" for about the 3rd of 4th time. I love this stuff!

I got a Nook for my bday and have at 4 or 5 books on it that somehow i need to find the time the read.

Anyway, check it out if you havent.
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Crashinskinoff 12/8/2012 4:19am
12/8/2012 4:19am Edited Date/Time 12/8/2012 4:29am
Ccol man WW2 was an awesome war! I recently acquired a Japanese WW2 Arisaka type 99 series 1 7.7mm rifle. It was missing a few parts but I got everything but the safety knob on the bolt, it's been fun researching it and finding the parts on Ebay.




The flower thing is called a Mum, the first two symbols are 9's and the last symbol means "type" there are other little marking by the serial number that tell you where it was made and what type it is. When the Japs lost they ground off the Mum on the the the they handed over. If you have the full Mum that means it was most likely a war capture. The bayonets are cool, I need to find one for it.

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Barrett57 12/8/2012 6:13am
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I have tons of shit from WW2.

But the thing I would like to find the most was my grandads diary, he landed on D-Day and kept a diary of every single day until the war ended, he lost it after the war but my god I would love to read that.
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MR. X 12/8/2012 6:39am
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Barrett57 wrote:
I have tons of shit from WW2. But the thing I would like to find the most was my grandads diary, he landed on D-Day and...
I have tons of shit from WW2.

But the thing I would like to find the most was my grandads diary, he landed on D-Day and kept a diary of every single day until the war ended, he lost it after the war but my god I would love to read that.
X2 my family was already on the landing spot before D day ,after the war those who survived were shipped here to the states . My best friends grandfathers were both in the war ,one fought for the US and one for the Germans , they never spoke to each other for years , before they both passed i got to sit at a table with both of them and hear them tell stories about what the other side used to do that the other side couldn't stand , and listen to different missions they have been on ,something ill never forget .

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Barrett57 12/8/2012 7:04am
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Barrett57 wrote:
I have tons of shit from WW2. But the thing I would like to find the most was my grandads diary, he landed on D-Day and...
I have tons of shit from WW2.

But the thing I would like to find the most was my grandads diary, he landed on D-Day and kept a diary of every single day until the war ended, he lost it after the war but my god I would love to read that.
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X2 my family was already on the landing spot before D day ,after the war those who survived were shipped here to the states . My...
X2 my family was already on the landing spot before D day ,after the war those who survived were shipped here to the states . My best friends grandfathers were both in the war ,one fought for the US and one for the Germans , they never spoke to each other for years , before they both passed i got to sit at a table with both of them and hear them tell stories about what the other side used to do that the other side couldn't stand , and listen to different missions they have been on ,something ill never forget .
That must have been a really interesting conversation, there's nothing like listening to the storys from the men who were there.

The story that sticks out the most with my grandad, was that during the advance through Europe, him and a german soldier both the same age (early 20s) stumbled across each other, both pulled their gun on the other one and they just stood pointing their guns at each other for a few minutes, neither pulled the trigger in the end and went opposite ways.
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Jakes Dad 12/8/2012 8:05am
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In my work I've met many retired military war veterans a couple of awesome stories from them.

One pilot was flying with his wing man bombing Japs in the hillsides softening them up for invasion. Wingman got hit and crash landed on an airfield. My customer flew his plane down and landed to pick up his buddy. The Japs on the airfield didn't realize they were American until he was taking back off with his buddy. Got the Navy Cross for that one.

Another customer was dropped behind lines on D day he was only 1 of 2 in the whole platoon who made it back to American lines. He retired with over 1500 military jumps and fighting in 3 wars.
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three9zero 12/8/2012 9:29am
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My great uncle was a RCAF pilot in WW1 and was shot down in France, my father has even found his tomb stone via google earth, pretty neat. Also, my Grandfather designed Lancaster bombers, I love ww1 and ww2 history.
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Hut 12/8/2012 9:42am
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Crashinskinoff wrote:
Ccol man WW2 was an awesome war! I recently acquired a Japanese WW2 Arisaka type 99 series 1 7.7mm rifle. It was missing a few parts...
Ccol man WW2 was an awesome war! I recently acquired a Japanese WW2 Arisaka type 99 series 1 7.7mm rifle. It was missing a few parts but I got everything but the safety knob on the bolt, it's been fun researching it and finding the parts on Ebay.




The flower thing is called a Mum, the first two symbols are 9's and the last symbol means "type" there are other little marking by the serial number that tell you where it was made and what type it is. When the Japs lost they ground off the Mum on the the the they handed over. If you have the full Mum that means it was most likely a war capture. The bayonets are cool, I need to find one for it.

Sorry to reply but that is a cool piece of history you have. It reminds me of the one my Grandfather had hanging on the wall in his room that his son (My Unc) brought back from WWII. I couldn't say if it was the same or not that was so long ago but I sure wish I had it today.
Motocross83 12/8/2012 12:08pm
12/8/2012 12:08pm
My great grandad trained a Polish squadron and flew along side them himself in the Battle of Britain. The Polish contribution in this fight is often forgotten (at the time for political reasons).

Kept a diary too. The funny thing is, because he came from middle classy type background, when you read the diary he actually writes in the classic cliche way a lot of them talked back then e.g - "jolly good show" etc. Bit like George from Black Adder. Funny stuff but also inspiring. Those guys had testicles the size of water melons. Kinda makes all my efforts in life feel like crap in comparison tbh.
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Barrett57 12/8/2012 12:48pm
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If you want good, straight to the point documentarys on both wars, these are the best series ive found:

WW1 - https://youtu.be/yWJB6Y-3N5o (on the guys youtube channel he has all the episodes)

WW2 is the world at war series. (i cant find it on youtube)
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Jakes Dad 12/9/2012 3:42am
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I guess I can brag on my grandpa also. At 19 yo he flew the mail, when WWII broke out in Europe he wanted to get in the action but we weren't in the war yet. So he joined the royal canadian air force to get over and fly for the RAF. He flew the Hawker Hurricane and just got on the spitfire when we got in the war. He then went over to the Army Air Corps and flew a P-47 and then they pulled him to train pilots on the B-17 since we were losing so many.
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Racer92 12/9/2012 7:20am
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"Ccol man WW2 was an awesome war! I recently acquired a Japanese WW2 Arisaka type 99 series 1 7.7mm rifle. It was missing a few parts but I got everything but the safety knob on the bolt, it's been fun researching it and finding the parts on Ebay"

Very cool Crash! Is it safe to shoot? I had bought my boy a very nice Springfield M1 for his gun collection, it was used in WW2 but was still very good shape and had all original tools under the buttstock plate. While he was going to college at A&M he donated it to the Corps Museum for their display collection.


Thank you for the heads up Scottie.
Crashinskinoff 12/9/2012 7:45am
12/9/2012 7:45am
M1's are high dollar! I would love to get one for my Dad! This rifle was at our house when my Dad bought it in 1976. Sat in a closet for years. the stock has been cut Sad and it has some rust, also was missing the magazine spring and follower, the firing pin and spring and safety knob. I'll probably get a full stock if it shoots okay. Pretty sure it will be safe to fire when i get all the parts. you can get a nice one with the Mum for around 400. some Arisaka's are called "last ditch" it's when the Japanese were out of resources and stated cutting corners, wood butt plates, no airplane sight etc. My Dad had a broomhandle mauser that was found in a river in 1960's in Germany by a diving buddy! Complete with wood holster! The first production semiauto pistol......he gave it away! he didn't know what it meant to me, my first memories as kid were holding that pistol, everything worked on it too. I asked if I could ask for it back and he told me to shut up about it was his he gave it away and it's gone, lol. I'll be getting a broomhandle one day, they are big money though.
Crashinskinoff 12/9/2012 1:28pm
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Crashinskinoff wrote:
Ccol man WW2 was an awesome war! I recently acquired a Japanese WW2 Arisaka type 99 series 1 7.7mm rifle. It was missing a few parts...
Ccol man WW2 was an awesome war! I recently acquired a Japanese WW2 Arisaka type 99 series 1 7.7mm rifle. It was missing a few parts but I got everything but the safety knob on the bolt, it's been fun researching it and finding the parts on Ebay.




The flower thing is called a Mum, the first two symbols are 9's and the last symbol means "type" there are other little marking by the serial number that tell you where it was made and what type it is. When the Japs lost they ground off the Mum on the the the they handed over. If you have the full Mum that means it was most likely a war capture. The bayonets are cool, I need to find one for it.

Hut wrote:
Sorry to reply but that is a cool piece of history you have. It reminds me of the one my Grandfather had hanging on the wall...
Sorry to reply but that is a cool piece of history you have. It reminds me of the one my Grandfather had hanging on the wall in his room that his son (My Unc) brought back from WWII. I couldn't say if it was the same or not that was so long ago but I sure wish I had it today.
Mine isn't in as good of shape as these guns, man to bad about your gun, the fact that your Grandpappy brought it home would make it priceless to me! Gunbroker has a lot of these guns for sale and here's a good link for info!

http://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/detail.asp?smallarms_id=373
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Racer92 12/9/2012 1:41pm
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Very cool stuff Crash !
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PaleBlue 12/9/2012 3:04pm
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Crashinskinoff wrote: "Cool man WW2 was an awesome war!"

Wow! that's a crass statement, even for you Crash. 50 million dead and countless other lives shattered for ever, truly awesome and soooo much fun.


"The flower thing is called a Mum"

You've sure done your homework too. The "flower thing" is a Chrysanthemum. In Imperial Japan, small arms were required to be stamped with the Imperial Chrysanthemum, as they were considered the personal property of the Emperor.

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Crashinskinoff 12/9/2012 3:23pm
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You snatched that bait up! Of course there has never been an awesome war. The fact that we won and saved the Earth from the Nazi's was the only good thing about it. I'll post some pictures when I get done with my rifle. The flower thing is cool, when I first looked at the gun as a kid I always wonded what the symbols were, I never thought to look it up on the Internet until recently. Just sharing some stuff, thanks for the replies y'all. I'll be picking up a couple more old mauser type guns soon, it's a cheap way to collect fire able antique guns.
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Racer92 12/9/2012 4:15pm
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Dont listen to the limey Crash, if it wasnt for American boys he'd be logging in as BlassBlau.

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thrillbillie91 12/9/2012 5:13pm
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Racer92 wrote:
Dont listen to the limey Crash, if it wasnt for American boys he'd be logging in as BlassBlau.

Wink
time to break out the lommel vids again :-)

as usual turn up late and take the glory..it started in 39
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Racer92 wrote:
Dont listen to the limey Crash, if it wasnt for American boys he'd be logging in as BlassBlau.

Wink
thrillbillie91 wrote:
time to break out the lommel vids again :-)

as usual turn up late and take the glory..it started in 39
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APLMAN99 12/9/2012 7:48pm
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Racer92 wrote:
Dont listen to the limey Crash, if it wasnt for American boys he'd be logging in as BlassBlau.

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thrillbillie91 wrote:
time to break out the lommel vids again :-)

as usual turn up late and take the glory..it started in 39
I'm not sure "late" would be the proper term....

Maybe "just in time" to turn that little scrimmage completely around....

Oh, and make sure the Lommel vids are from 1982....
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PaleBlue 12/9/2012 11:50pm
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Racer92 wrote:
Dont listen to the limey Crash, if it wasnt for American boys he'd be logging in as BlassBlau.

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thrillbillie91 wrote:
time to break out the lommel vids again :-)

as usual turn up late and take the glory..it started in 39
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I'm not sure "late" would be the proper term.... Maybe "just in time" to turn that little scrimmage completely around.... Oh, and make sure the Lommel...
I'm not sure "late" would be the proper term....

Maybe "just in time" to turn that little scrimmage completely around....

Oh, and make sure the Lommel vids are from 1982....
Yep "just in time" is about right. Not so soon that Britain could avoid running up yet another huge debt to the U.S. for war "aid" and not so late that we get defeated and the WW1 and the new WW2 debts are lost forever to you. Not just money either, as part of the conditions for the aid, Britain also had to promise the U.S. to give up it's whole empire a.s.a.p. , effectively taking away our ability to pay back the loans without our own economic destruction.

In terms of help on the field though, I think that honour goes to the Russians.
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Racer92 12/10/2012 6:46am
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Yep "just in time" is about right. Not so soon that Britain could avoid running up yet another huge debt to the U.S. for war "aid"...
Yep "just in time" is about right. Not so soon that Britain could avoid running up yet another huge debt to the U.S. for war "aid" and not so late that we get defeated and the WW1 and the new WW2 debts are lost forever to you. Not just money either, as part of the conditions for the aid, Britain also had to promise the U.S. to give up it's whole empire a.s.a.p. , effectively taking away our ability to pay back the loans without our own economic destruction.

In terms of help on the field though, I think that honour goes to the Russians.
Oh geez, we sent you redcoats packin' in 1776 and you havent quit whining since.

Go have another scone with tea and chill. Kissing
thrillbillie91 12/10/2012 7:03am
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pretty disrespectful to a nation that was bombed relentlessly in ww2 and still fought on despite its size.... with the nazi's not very far away...
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Racer92 12/10/2012 7:35am
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thrillbillie91 wrote:
pretty disrespectful to a nation that was bombed relentlessly in ww2 and still fought on despite its size.... with the nazi's not very far away...
Over 400,000 Americans dead in a war not even on our soil is "show up late and take the glory", and that isnt disrespectful?

Almost a half a million USA homeboys (many who lied about their age and were minors) enlisted and died across the pond to save YOUR ass from the Third Reich and you wanna make light of that?
thrillbillie91 12/10/2012 7:52am
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touche... my apologies
the allies on both side should be respected
and all the fallen who gave their lives for freedom
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Racer92 12/10/2012 8:18am
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Difference is, that shit was in your lap and you guys HAD to deal with the bombings. Those American boys volunteered to go help you guys. Willingly left their families, wives, kids & homes gladly and they didnt have to. They earned the title 'The Greatest Generation' with courage and sacrifice.

Can you even fathom what kinda man it takes to voluntarily advance on the beaches at Normandy knowing youre gonna get mowed down like hay from concrete German pill-boxes? That is doing it "for the glory"?

https://youtu.be/31nt2fsMORU

Anyone who wants to minimize the USA's contribution to that clusterfuck as glory-seeking can kiss my American ass.

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