YZ 65 set up help.

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Edited Date/Time 5/20/2020 4:13pm
Disclaimer, I’m a complete novice and so is my son. He turned 11 in January and he’s kinda small for his age. I bought him a CRF80 for Christmas, and I’ve been taking him to the local Mx track almost every weekend. Then I got jealous and got an older yz250f to ride with him. We are really enjoying ourselves. So a couple of days ago I surprised him with a yz65 so he could be more competitive at the track. We took it to the track and he loves it! I couldn’t be happier. So I’ve been researching the bike and there’s really not allot of info out there. 90% of what I see is professional magazine reviews, Not regular owners. What are other yz 65 owners thoughts on the bike. How often are you doing top ends? Should I buy a compression tester? What oil ratio? I’m running 32-1 with yamalube2R. I’m getting black stuff coming out of the exhaust. Should I run a hotter plug to combat this, or less oil, or smaller pilot jet? With the clutch pull being so light are the clutch springs too light? Are people burning up clutches? Sorry I’ve got so many questions, I’ve actually got a bunch more but Ill stop there. If there are any other owners out there that wouldn’t mind chiming I’m with there experience on some of these issues I’d appreciate it.

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moto551
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5/18/2020 7:03pm
Stop running yamalube. Try another brand of oil such as Honda hp2.
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5/18/2020 7:23pm
Top ends I’m not really sure on a 65 on my 125 I do one about every 20-30 hours or each winter as a 2 stroke top end is pretty cheap. I don’t think you should need a compression tester as problems on 2 strokes are usually somewhat obvious and easy to fix. I always run 32:1 and I use blendzall which I love and recommend but honestly all oils are probably pretty good. As for the black stuff coming out of the exhaust I’m guessing that’s just because your son is a new rider and isn’t really cleaning the thing out very often on the track, does he foul plugs a lot? A little oil out the pipe isn’t usually a big deal maybe just a little messy and might start to go away as he gets a little faster and on the throttle more. If it’s actually an issue you could maybe bump up to 40:1 ratio and try that. The clutch is going to be naturally easy to pull as a 65 doesn’t make a lot of torque and doesn’t need very heavy springs so I wouldn’t worry about that. I’m definitely not an expert but there’s my opinion🤷🏼‍♂️
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5/19/2020 6:18am
My son is 8 an started riding a KX65 in January. Leaning the pilot helped with the black spooge a little but gave it a bog when you whacked the throttle hard. I went back to stock jetting and a hotter plug and it ran better with less spooge than the leaner pilot. My buddy followed suit with his son's YZ65 and it helped his as well.
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5/19/2020 11:46am Edited Date/Time 5/19/2020 11:56am
The black splooge is nothing to be worried about; just unburnt fuel/oil from not enough heat or too rich a mixture. Here are things that can fix that problem:

1) A hotter plug
2) Leaner jetting (move the clip upward on the needle jet and / or get a smaller main jet)
3) Less oil in the gas (higher ratio). I'd be wary of this one, as little engines tend to like more oil.

Yamalube R at 32:1 is probably just fine on that bike. If I were you I'd start with a hotter plug, one size smaller main, and lean out the needle one position on the clip. Check the spark plug often and keep making incremental changes to leaner jetting until the plug is a nice brown color.

EDIT: Further info: I would not change the pilot jet on that bike unless it has idling problems. Your rich condition is probably caused by the main jet and mid-throttle openings, not by the slow circuit which is controlled by the pilot.
Also remember any changes you make which lean the bike make it more susceptible to seizing if the conditions get cooler, drier, or lower elevation; or if your rider gets significantly faster. Don't worry too much though; the OEMs jet their bikes a little rich from the factory on purpose.

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5/19/2020 4:33pm
Depending on your kids weight the YZ65 is sprung and valved for heavy kids. We had ours changed to a lighter spring and softer valuing and you can physically see the difference.
We ran Yamalube 2R at 40:1 Never an issue with this oil and piston and rings always look great.
Motul transoil expert 10W40 for gearbox.
Splooge unless fouling plugs I wouldn’t worry about at the moment until your kid starts hammering down. You’ll find it will correct itself with your kid getting more aggressive on the throttle.
We had the KTM65 and were one of the first to get the YZ65 and wouldn’t hesitate getting one over the KTM65 again. The advantage (racing) with the KTM is there is a lot of info and aftermarket products out there for it but it is a maintenance heavy bike compared to the Yamaha.
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5/20/2020 3:21pm
Thanks for the reply’s guys. I guess since he didn’t foul the plug on that first ride I’ll hold off on putting an hotter plug in there. And I’ll wait till he gets a little faster to see if the black stuff stops coming out of the exhaust. So since I’m getting that spooge out of the exhaust I guess the inside of the pipe and silencer are getting coated. Do you guys ever clean that out? How often should I repack the silencer? Does that effect performance or just noise? Will the power valve get messed up with a 32:1 oil ratio? Should I ever clean that out? Also what should the static and race sag be? I set race sag at 79mm but static seems like a lot (forgot the exact number.) So does that mean my son at 11 years old is too light for this little bike? Thanks again!
5/20/2020 4:13pm Edited Date/Time 5/20/2020 4:17pm
Thanks for the reply’s guys. I guess since he didn’t foul the plug on that first ride I’ll hold off on putting an hotter plug in...
Thanks for the reply’s guys. I guess since he didn’t foul the plug on that first ride I’ll hold off on putting an hotter plug in there. And I’ll wait till he gets a little faster to see if the black stuff stops coming out of the exhaust. So since I’m getting that spooge out of the exhaust I guess the inside of the pipe and silencer are getting coated. Do you guys ever clean that out? How often should I repack the silencer? Does that effect performance or just noise? Will the power valve get messed up with a 32:1 oil ratio? Should I ever clean that out? Also what should the static and race sag be? I set race sag at 79mm but static seems like a lot (forgot the exact number.) So does that mean my son at 11 years old is too light for this little bike? Thanks again!
The splooge will soak the silencer packing and add a fair bit of weight as well. Packing is cheap so it wouldn’t hurt to do it regularly. I’d go by weight and sound.
I only cleaned the PV on top end maintenance.
With the suspension find someone with experience in dealing with the YZ65 suspension as if i remember carefully its not only the spring they should change but the valuing as well. I’d “guess” my kid was around the 63-66 lb mark
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5/21/2020 12:19pm
My sons Kx65, 85, and 100 have all been super rich and depending on your altitude will likely need adjusting. Had the same black splooge out the silencer, along with fouled plugs and this fixed it up.

Leaner pilot, main and likely needle adjustment necessary. Its not difficult and will make all the difference.

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