Javier Milei

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Congratulations Argentina on making history today and electing the first Libertarian president!

Kinda reminds me of Guy Martin

 

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Titan1
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Liberalism is an unrealistic utopian pipe dream…radical liberalism is even worse (because you’ll eventually run out of other people’s money)…freedom, and the hope of prosperity and the fear of failure that come with it, is the only viable long term political philosophy.  Limiting potential prosperity to eliminate the consequences of failure will always fail.  

America should take note…

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11/20/2023 3:53am
308 wrote:
Congratulations Argentina on making history today and electing the first Libertarian president!   Kinda reminds me of Guy Martin  

Congratulations Argentina on making history today and electing the first Libertarian president!

Kinda reminds me of Guy Martin

 

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11/20/2023 10:12am

What....  you mean people didn't listen to Taylor Swift on who they should vote for?     Appalling....

 

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11/20/2023 10:14am
Titan1 wrote:
Liberalism is an unrealistic utopian pipe dream…radical liberalism is even worse (because you’ll eventually run out of other people’s money)…freedom, and the hope of prosperity and...

Liberalism is an unrealistic utopian pipe dream…radical liberalism is even worse (because you’ll eventually run out of other people’s money)…freedom, and the hope of prosperity and the fear of failure that come with it, is the only viable long term political philosophy.  Limiting potential prosperity to eliminate the consequences of failure will always fail.  

America should take note…

Definitions are in order here. I could only hope for a classic liberal to get to the Whitehouse.

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Paperclip wrote:
Let’s just see how it goes…

IMG 4124.jpeg?VersionId=p.4jf49XIMG 4123IMG 4120 1.jpeg?VersionId=W3wxu6PEfh0q4ZrEtzKiLet’s just see how it goes…IMG 4122.jpeg?VersionId=XTLCYZmDP88IQpi7.52Y1Ly

Yes, his love for Zionism is silly..

Screen Shot 2023-11-20 at 12.27.26 PM.png?VersionId=hqM.bwOFwnv8sm8jowvs0ih88H.zJust like Elon's name once being on the WEF site, it's easy to cherry-pick details of someone's past and dismiss any changes in their stance in order to discredit them...

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borg wrote:

Definitions are in order here. I could only hope for a classic liberal to get to the Whitehouse.

1000%, Borg.

What are classical liberalism views on society?
Classical liberalism is a political tradition and a branch of liberalism which advocates free market and laissez-faire economics; and civil liberties under the rule of law, with special emphasis on individual autonomy, limited government, economic freedom, political freedom and freedom of speech.

Laissez-faire economics is a theory that advocates for minimal government intervention in the economy. The theory suggests that the government should only intervene to protect individuals' rights. Laissez-faire is a staple of free-market capitalism.

Some benefits of laissez-faire economics include: 
Freedom of citizens to make personal economic decisions
Sponsorship of innovation and technological advancements
Creation of market incentives to produce efficiently
Avoidance of government corruption and mismanagement in the economy


The end of law is not to abolish or restrain, but to preserve and enlarge freedom. For in all the states of created beings, capable of laws, where there is no law there is no freedom.  - John Locke

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11/20/2023 11:16am
Titan1 wrote:
Liberalism is an unrealistic utopian pipe dream…radical liberalism is even worse (because you’ll eventually run out of other people’s money)…freedom, and the hope of prosperity and...

Liberalism is an unrealistic utopian pipe dream…radical liberalism is even worse (because you’ll eventually run out of other people’s money)…freedom, and the hope of prosperity and the fear of failure that come with it, is the only viable long term political philosophy.  Limiting potential prosperity to eliminate the consequences of failure will always fail.  

America should take note…

You were just itching to make this rant. He identifies as a liberal libertarian. His actual political views leave that up to debate. Either way, not a liberal in the typical use here in America.

 

We shall see what happens. Some of his views are a little wild.

 

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11/20/2023 11:47am
Titan1 wrote:
Liberalism is an unrealistic utopian pipe dream…radical liberalism is even worse (because you’ll eventually run out of other people’s money)…freedom, and the hope of prosperity and...

Liberalism is an unrealistic utopian pipe dream…radical liberalism is even worse (because you’ll eventually run out of other people’s money)…freedom, and the hope of prosperity and the fear of failure that come with it, is the only viable long term political philosophy.  Limiting potential prosperity to eliminate the consequences of failure will always fail.  

America should take note…

borg wrote:

Definitions are in order here. I could only hope for a classic liberal to get to the Whitehouse.

Yes, define classic liberal?

All the libs I can think of are nuts.

JFK would not be allowed as a Libby today.

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11/21/2023 9:13am Edited Date/Time 11/21/2023 9:49am
Paperclip wrote:
Let’s just see how it goes…

IMG 4124.jpeg?VersionId=p.4jf49XIMG 4123IMG 4120 1.jpeg?VersionId=W3wxu6PEfh0q4ZrEtzKiLet’s just see how it goes…IMG 4122.jpeg?VersionId=XTLCYZmDP88IQpi7.52Y1Ly

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Yes, his love for Zionism is silly..   Just like Elon's name once being on the WEF site, it's easy to cherry-pick details of someone's past...

Yes, his love for Zionism is silly..

Screen Shot 2023-11-20 at 12.27.26 PM.png?VersionId=hqM.bwOFwnv8sm8jowvs0ih88H.zJust like Elon's name once being on the WEF site, it's easy to cherry-pick details of someone's past and dismiss any changes in their stance in order to discredit them...

He’s a bought and paid for politician like the others.  His big donors are IDU- and their money men: Thiel Ashcroft Koch Blackwell and Russian oilogarchs. Safe place now for them to hide assets. He’s a little out there and emotional, kind of an attention whore. He’s whackier than Trump. Let’s hope he brings positive change and not a road of disaster that many are predicting, even fans of his. People had high hopes for Meloni and Italy and look at how that’s working out. They either voted him in or stayed with the status quo. Kind of like Biden and Trump. 

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Appears his first order of business was to take a chain saw to their DEI policies- programs.  Plans to have them dissolved within 3 weeks. 

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11/21/2023 1:34pm
Titan1 wrote:
Liberalism is an unrealistic utopian pipe dream…radical liberalism is even worse (because you’ll eventually run out of other people’s money)…freedom, and the hope of prosperity and...

Liberalism is an unrealistic utopian pipe dream…radical liberalism is even worse (because you’ll eventually run out of other people’s money)…freedom, and the hope of prosperity and the fear of failure that come with it, is the only viable long term political philosophy.  Limiting potential prosperity to eliminate the consequences of failure will always fail.  

America should take note…

borg wrote:

Definitions are in order here. I could only hope for a classic liberal to get to the Whitehouse.

OW38B wrote:

Yes, define classic liberal?

All the libs I can think of are nuts.

JFK would not be allowed as a Libby today.

See 308's post.

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11/22/2023 2:42am Edited Date/Time 11/22/2023 2:44am
whyZ wrote:

Appears his first order of business was to take a chain saw to their DEI policies- programs.  Plans to have them dissolved within 3 weeks. 

Same as they're beginning to do in,

Italy, Spain, and other euro countries.

And why our current overlords are nervous. 

Very nervous.

They can't run on any accomplishments. 

All they have to show is their massive social, economic, and foreign policy failures.

All they're running on is, bashing Trump. 

Who...

Is merely a figurehead for everything they oppose. 

Personal Freedom.

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Make Argentina great again! Hell, I might move there now. 

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I hope the Conans can live up to expectations and advise Milei to success.

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11/22/2023 9:31am

I had never heard of him until today. He doesn't seem very professional, but at least he sounds like he supports individual liberty. That's better than a socialist any day. 

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11/22/2023 3:55pm
borg wrote:

Definitions are in order here. I could only hope for a classic liberal to get to the Whitehouse.

OW38B wrote:

Yes, define classic liberal?

All the libs I can think of are nuts.

JFK would not be allowed as a Libby today.

borg wrote:

See 308's post.

308 be a tad out there....

 

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It's shows just how bad things are when the only option is to elect lunatics. 

They voted him in..so it seems they do not share you opinion?

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It's shows just how bad things are when the only option is to elect lunatics. 

Holy shit....

So the current policies in Argentina are sane?     

Just wow....

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11/22/2023 5:17pm
OW38B wrote:

308 be a tad out there....

 

how so?

11/22/2023 7:46pm Edited Date/Time 11/22/2023 7:56pm
Magoofan wrote:

Holy shit....

So the current policies in Argentina are sane?     

Just wow....

Yeah because thats exactly what I said isn't it.

The chainsaw wielding nutjob being the best option is the point, in any country that has a functioning political system he doesn't get a look in. They only have the choice of varying levels of insanity. 

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11/22/2023 8:34pm Edited Date/Time 11/22/2023 8:47pm

Geert Wilders, an outspoken opponent of Islamist ideology, won the general elections by landslide in the Netherlands today.

Why do all these populist heros have such crazy hair?

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Some Geert Wilders quotes;

"We should not import a retarded political Islamic society into our country."
"Mass immigration changes countries beyond recognition. Ordinary people are well aware of that."
"We should wake up and tell ourselves: You're not a xenophobe, you're not a racist, you're not a crazy guy if you say, 'My culture is better than yours.'"
"Stating my views on Islam has brought me to court on charges of 'group insult' and incitement to racial hatred. I am being tried for voicing opinions that I - and my constituents - consider to be the truth. I am being tried for challenging the views that the ruling establishment wants to impose on us as the truth."
"I can't even go on a spontaneous walk or to a restaurant without armored cars and police, but there is no alternative."
"Excluding certain problems from the political debate by making it a crime to discuss them won't lead to the disappearance of these concerns, let alone contribute to a solution."

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Albert Pike 1800's

When they need a hero we provide one.

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Whitney Webb a investigative journalist from Chille has a few remarks on Milei at 41:41 of this video.

 

 

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I haven't watched the podcast posted above, but I cant help but wonder how the folks standing in bread lines feel about his libertarian policies. 

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@Spurdo 
Give it a listen

38:05 - Poverty

I wont pick what he said apart, but he contradicted himself with "We removed price caps which reduced citizens buying power, but wages are increasing over inflation rates, so the economy is booming." I'm paraphrasing of course, but the verdict is still out for me. I respect what he's saying about trying to eliminate government corruption, and social media censorship - but I cant prove if he's practicing what he's preaching, or is just spouting what he thinks people want to hear. 

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11/21/2024 8:35am

I know folks don't trust the media until it's something that makes them happy, but it looks like he's doing really well. Obviously still a lot of poverty, but controlling inflation is absolutely a real tangible metric on the road to decreasing poverty. Poverty would be a lot higher if their currency were further devalued, so the increase in poverty looks more like hysteresis at this point in time. 

https://apnews.com/article/argentina-inflation-milei-economy-21560cec4f…

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