How Fit Are Supercross Athletes? (Interviews with the Pros)

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4/30/2024 8:54am Edited Date/Time 4/30/2024 9:02am
dang472 wrote:
The forklift and pallet jack have been around for over 100 years at just about every dock and loading ramp in every corner of the country...

The forklift and pallet jack have been around for over 100 years at just about every dock and loading ramp in every corner of the country. We have more machinery on this pipeline spread right now that a laborer won’t lift a 2” water pump by himself. Nobody uses a shovel anymore because we have hydrovacs. Full concrete bridge pours have a pumper truck and a power screed. Gas powered finishers too. Trades work is good and physical if you keep moving but it’s not some extreme test of manhood it might have been 50 years ago.

As soon as you mention any of these guys being in shape, it always awakens the “you think THAT’S fit? I’d love to see them walk a day in MY shoes” crowd. 

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I’m not going to keep going back and forth with these delusions. I work with guys from Michaels/Precision/Inrock/Midwest Limited, etc. Stop it. Everyone is sitting in their trucks right now because my rig is broke down. I could challenge every employee on this spread right now to a 1 mile run. I’ll be nice and say 30% would finish it and maybe 3 or 4 would be under 12mins. A couple of our welders/fitters are former pro racers so if they were here it’d be more respectable.

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4/30/2024 9:10am
dang472 wrote:
https://www.drivemyway.com/blog/the-5-most-common-health-problems-for-truck-drivers/ God, I was waiting for the usual responses from the guys who think they’re in shape because they work 12hr days on a construction site...

https://www.drivemyway.com/blog/the-5-most-common-health-problems-for-truck-drivers/
God, I was waiting for the usual responses from the guys who think they’re in shape because they work 12hr days on a construction site. Not that anyone cares but I’ve been in different trades ranging from bridge demo, concrete pours, and now pipeline spreads. If you strapped heart rates monitors on all of the guys on my site right now, the only spikes will be when they hammer a Redbull with their dip and bend over to slip their boots on. Jackhammering a bridge deck for 12hrs straight is physical work but is not a sustained cardio/performance activity. 
 I’ve personally pulled a 3,000’ bore during a 38hr continuous work day on one of these mystical HDD rigs that Profeshenal speaks of and it doesn’t hold a candle to training for a marathon or spiking your heart rate for 40mins of moto. 
 If you have time and want to people watch, hang out at the local truck stop and see these finely tuned athletes barely stepping out of their trucks waddling to the Cinnabon kiosk in their diabetes socks. There’s a little underground network of med clinics that help these athletes pass the DOT exam for some extra cash. 

Sandusky26 wrote:
I get some zone 2 cardio running siding solo. I can't drive a big rig but my chick is 8 years younger than me.

I get some zone 2 cardio running siding solo.

I can't drive a big rig but my chick is 8 years younger than me.

A stack of I,m sure weights a bit . Just like a large roll of carpet, all kinds of physical jobs get the heart rate going. Hey I,m in Clinton,NC. Now , the boys r taking an extended lunch break. Then I hv to go hyper throwing chains, straps. There’s no factory rider that could do any of it.  There legs might b strong enough but there upper bodies r tiny. These Eastern European 1099 trks r more physical than a 130 lb jackhammer. With a hvy wt Indian fighter that was on espn twice. He did a Tyson under card fight, Tyson wouldn’t fight him , because you ko him repeatedly & he gets up. We only got a 1/2 in into thd concrete in 3 hrs straight. It was like an iron rd plate. Hell at 57 I look like I,m in better shape than any rider but Ken.  No cardio tho but who cares it’s about who can sprint & Lead.  Cadio is for some rich kid or office bro that has all the time in the world. If we ain,t working our women want pleasure for hrs. So we don’t hv time for that shit. 

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dang472 wrote:
https://www.drivemyway.com/blog/the-5-most-common-health-problems-for-truck-drivers/ God, I was waiting for the usual responses from the guys who think they’re in shape because they work 12hr days on a construction site...

https://www.drivemyway.com/blog/the-5-most-common-health-problems-for-truck-drivers/
God, I was waiting for the usual responses from the guys who think they’re in shape because they work 12hr days on a construction site. Not that anyone cares but I’ve been in different trades ranging from bridge demo, concrete pours, and now pipeline spreads. If you strapped heart rates monitors on all of the guys on my site right now, the only spikes will be when they hammer a Redbull with their dip and bend over to slip their boots on. Jackhammering a bridge deck for 12hrs straight is physical work but is not a sustained cardio/performance activity. 
 I’ve personally pulled a 3,000’ bore during a 38hr continuous work day on one of these mystical HDD rigs that Profeshenal speaks of and it doesn’t hold a candle to training for a marathon or spiking your heart rate for 40mins of moto. 
 If you have time and want to people watch, hang out at the local truck stop and see these finely tuned athletes barely stepping out of their trucks waddling to the Cinnabon kiosk in their diabetes socks. There’s a little underground network of med clinics that help these athletes pass the DOT exam for some extra cash. 

Sandusky26 wrote:
I get some zone 2 cardio running siding solo. I can't drive a big rig but my chick is 8 years younger than me.

I get some zone 2 cardio running siding solo.

I can't drive a big rig but my chick is 8 years younger than me.

A stack of I,m sure weights a bit . Just like a large roll of carpet, all kinds of physical jobs get the heart rate going...

A stack of I,m sure weights a bit . Just like a large roll of carpet, all kinds of physical jobs get the heart rate going. Hey I,m in Clinton,NC. Now , the boys r taking an extended lunch break. Then I hv to go hyper throwing chains, straps. There’s no factory rider that could do any of it.  There legs might b strong enough but there upper bodies r tiny. These Eastern European 1099 trks r more physical than a 130 lb jackhammer. With a hvy wt Indian fighter that was on espn twice. He did a Tyson under card fight, Tyson wouldn’t fight him , because you ko him repeatedly & he gets up. We only got a 1/2 in into thd concrete in 3 hrs straight. It was like an iron rd plate. Hell at 57 I look like I,m in better shape than any rider but Ken.  No cardio tho but who cares it’s about who can sprint & Lead.  Cadio is for some rich kid or office bro that has all the time in the world. If we ain,t working our women want pleasure for hrs. So we don’t hv time for that shit. 

I'm about 2 hours away, we should meet up and smoke a J.

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Haven’t there been guys like dungey who have over trained in the past? I’m guessing this type of performance based training gets more and more dialed...

Haven’t there been guys like dungey who have over trained in the past? I’m guessing this type of performance based training gets more and more dialed in as time goes on and the workouts get personalized per rider. 
 

I’ve only met a few riders in person, RC, Anderson and Phil…they’re all pretty small guys, which is why I liked that Jmart asked how much they weigh when asking about bench press max etc. 

I understand some of the comparisons to other athletes like triathletes or cyclists but they can’t be compared to someone like a super human that plays in the NFL. 
 

just my two cents of course, but i still think it would be good to show their heart rates and maybe some of the training they do preseason and during the season. 

Right, overtraining is a thing. I can't see that you would recover properly training more than 4hrs a day. Just a note about NFL players that...

Right, overtraining is a thing. I can't see that you would recover properly training more than 4hrs a day. Just a note about NFL players that always bothers me. Yeah they're amazing athletes, speed and skill. Don't they play about an average of 15min or something ridiculous? There's a break after every play with the clock running. NBA has the most impressive athletes to me. Running non stop the whole game. And half those guys have to duck their heads so they don't hit their head on the rim. They're all jumping out of the gym

yeah but NBA players can't keep their balance when someone touches their hand

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4/30/2024 12:05pm Edited Date/Time 4/30/2024 12:07pm
Benhameen wrote:
Haven’t there been guys like dungey who have over trained in the past? I’m guessing this type of performance based training gets more and more dialed...

Haven’t there been guys like dungey who have over trained in the past? I’m guessing this type of performance based training gets more and more dialed in as time goes on and the workouts get personalized per rider. 
 

I’ve only met a few riders in person, RC, Anderson and Phil…they’re all pretty small guys, which is why I liked that Jmart asked how much they weigh when asking about bench press max etc. 

I understand some of the comparisons to other athletes like triathletes or cyclists but they can’t be compared to someone like a super human that plays in the NFL. 
 

just my two cents of course, but i still think it would be good to show their heart rates and maybe some of the training they do preseason and during the season. 

Right, overtraining is a thing. I can't see that you would recover properly training more than 4hrs a day. Just a note about NFL players that...

Right, overtraining is a thing. I can't see that you would recover properly training more than 4hrs a day. Just a note about NFL players that always bothers me. Yeah they're amazing athletes, speed and skill. Don't they play about an average of 15min or something ridiculous? There's a break after every play with the clock running. NBA has the most impressive athletes to me. Running non stop the whole game. And half those guys have to duck their heads so they don't hit their head on the rim. They're all jumping out of the gym

I'm not saying that basketball players aren't crazy fit, because they are; but they do play with a lot of time outs, plus unlimited subs, and not to mention:

And here come the "soccer players are pussies" replies.

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4/30/2024 12:12pm
Benhameen wrote:
Haven’t there been guys like dungey who have over trained in the past? I’m guessing this type of performance based training gets more and more dialed...

Haven’t there been guys like dungey who have over trained in the past? I’m guessing this type of performance based training gets more and more dialed in as time goes on and the workouts get personalized per rider. 
 

I’ve only met a few riders in person, RC, Anderson and Phil…they’re all pretty small guys, which is why I liked that Jmart asked how much they weigh when asking about bench press max etc. 

I understand some of the comparisons to other athletes like triathletes or cyclists but they can’t be compared to someone like a super human that plays in the NFL. 
 

just my two cents of course, but i still think it would be good to show their heart rates and maybe some of the training they do preseason and during the season. 

Right, overtraining is a thing. I can't see that you would recover properly training more than 4hrs a day. Just a note about NFL players that...

Right, overtraining is a thing. I can't see that you would recover properly training more than 4hrs a day. Just a note about NFL players that always bothers me. Yeah they're amazing athletes, speed and skill. Don't they play about an average of 15min or something ridiculous? There's a break after every play with the clock running. NBA has the most impressive athletes to me. Running non stop the whole game. And half those guys have to duck their heads so they don't hit their head on the rim. They're all jumping out of the gym

I'm not saying that basketball players aren't crazy fit, because they are; but they do play with a lot of time outs, plus unlimited subs, and...

I'm not saying that basketball players aren't crazy fit, because they are; but they do play with a lot of time outs, plus unlimited subs, and not to mention:

And here come the "soccer players are pussies" replies.

I've seen more than one NFL player have a hard time making a 75 yard dash after a interception or reception LOL 

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How long before Outdoors starts does the training change for longer race endurance?

1 month?

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dang472 wrote:
I’m not going to keep going back and forth with these delusions. I work with guys from Michaels/Precision/Inrock/Midwest Limited, etc. Stop it. Everyone is sitting in...

I’m not going to keep going back and forth with these delusions. I work with guys from Michaels/Precision/Inrock/Midwest Limited, etc. Stop it. Everyone is sitting in their trucks right now because my rig is broke down. I could challenge every employee on this spread right now to a 1 mile run. I’ll be nice and say 30% would finish it and maybe 3 or 4 would be under 12mins. A couple of our welders/fitters are former pro racers so if they were here it’d be more respectable.

3x 20 min exercise bike. 
3x30 min gym session. 
3x20 min motos. 
 

Do these spread out over the 17 odd ours of awake time each day equals 24.5 hours of training per week. 
I could do that right now as a 43 yo unfit as shit guy off the couch. After 1 month it would be easy. Oh. I’d do all my own bike work too because I enjoy it and I’d have plenty of time for it. 

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It is crazy how retarded some of you are. You really think that working construction make you fitter than professional athletes?

And some of you needs to understand that the running and cycling these guys do is cross training. Of course they are not the best runner or bicycle rider on the worlds. It’s not their sport. They are the best motocross rider juste like the marathoner is the best in his respective disciplines. 
you understand that every sport needs its techniques and your are only using it as cross training you do not care about having the best running form and being the fastest. All they need is to be in 80% heart rate zone for a period of time. 
but yeah using a hammer on nails make you one of the fittest people on earth 

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Have you tried training like what a top level pro motocrosser does? I bet it isn't as easy as you think it seems to be. Pro...

Have you tried training like what a top level pro motocrosser does? I bet it isn't as easy as you think it seems to be.

Pro motocrossers are a blend of strength to weight ratios, the ability to run anaerobic heart rates for 40 minutes at a time then repeat it an hour later. Flexibility. Reflexes.

I have done Ironman triathlons, full marathons, raced motocross for many years. But I am a 6"3" dude and my body type would never allow me to run a 2:30 marathon, do a 10hr Ironman, or race 40 minutes at Jett Lawrence speed.

 

Kiernan mx wrote:
Oh yea I’m aware it will be extremely physically difficult. But they really aren’t putting in many hours of that difficult thing. That’s more of what...

Oh yea I’m aware it will be extremely physically difficult. But they really aren’t putting in many hours of that difficult thing. That’s more of what I’m commenting on. They said their absolute max hours they’ve put in for a week during boot camp ( full on way more then normal) is 24-30 hours !!! 
id like to put them on a shovel digging trenches for 12 hours a day 7 days a week for $800 and see how they like it. Or put in some 20-32 hour days. I’ve worked plenty of 20 hour days in a physical job. For 12 months I started work at 7.30 am every Thursday and worked through till 5 pm Friday. Every week. I just thought they put in a heck of a lot more time to their training is all. I kind of seems easy really. Yea hard while you’re doing it but very much a part time gig. No disrespect to the guys it just doesn’t seem as hard as I’ve thought it was for the last 30 odd years. 

Muscle from working is by far the best way to create a complete athletic body. I started working on a farm at 3 yrs old. Tying...

Muscle from working is by far the best way to create a complete athletic body. I started working on a farm at 3 yrs old. Tying to drag a feed bag that weights 4+ times your body wt. you create an explosive & strong body. At 6 carrying milk the length of the barn with a pale that to your ribs. Then to dump it I saw I wasn’t tall enough. So I used a step in like your going in 4 a dunk.  Great genetics too my dad I was extremely quick & strong. My mom was shot at by aircraft in ww2 so she’s quick . plus 7 days a week of work. Created a freak of nature 7th grade I was on the rim, 8 th grade I dunked . In 10 grade I had 68+ vertical & 73 in max. Sit-ups I can still do 1+ hrs of sit-ups, pull ups 100 + easily, pushups 500 +.  100 m always had low 10 sec times until my 50,s.  Wolds strongest horizontal drill rig I never had anyone close for competition. Guys rt out of the marines never lasted a week. Only the tough farm boys. 30 days straight 7 days a week 12-16 hrs days. Pull a 60 in pipe line under a river it’s work until your done . It could b 30 plus hrs, extreme physical work.  Trucking is more physical than a 130 lb jack hammer at least the 1099 Chicago co trks r, that’s 18- 39 hrs straight. Lift , drag , pull 45k a day. Sysco had ovr 100 nfl players that couldn’t do the job n of Milwaukee.  53ft flatbed I haven’t done that since Feb 98. The trl is rusted up , old & nothing works rt. You force it . Your feet to your upper body is everything you got. I noticed every muscle working at max . I thought great , feet for balance & strength, legs getting maxed out. But I didn’t like every muscle fiber across your backside & arms maxed out. Because you can’t ride a bike if your pumped up like a tank. It takes 3+ weeks of 8 hr ice baths, sauna , whirlpool, epson salts baths, s ton of icing to get rid of the pumped up muscle, 7 days a week. It’s a full time job + . Thd 4 th week I,m quite a bit de pumped.  Riding is basically legs & cardio.  I noticed all thd flat bed drivers r super ripped & strong, most r very young. I look at riding as a fun thing & wouldn’t want to ruin it by training. Don’t hv time to train anyway.  

See, when you go all profeshenal is when you really show how much you are willing to lie for attention........

68" vertical.....

Michael Jordan's best was 48".  Yet yours was 20" higher than that.

You really are an idiot.  

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I’m going to go out on a limb and say they count their training hours at a certain intensity level, not the total minutes performing said activity. Jmart said he did 8 40min motos in a week at his pace most likely at a sustained 190HR. That’s in addition to off the bike training. Even if you could match his time spent, the output and intensity wouldn’t be close. That’s like discounting a 15min 5k run because you can run for 30mins. Even more deceiving would be when you have a higher heart rate than him and you claim you’re training harder because you did 30mins.

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rivvs wrote:
It is crazy how retarded some of you are. You really think that working construction make you fitter than professional athletes? And some of you needs...

It is crazy how retarded some of you are. You really think that working construction make you fitter than professional athletes?

And some of you needs to understand that the running and cycling these guys do is cross training. Of course they are not the best runner or bicycle rider on the worlds. It’s not their sport. They are the best motocross rider juste like the marathoner is the best in his respective disciplines. 
you understand that every sport needs its techniques and your are only using it as cross training you do not care about having the best running form and being the fastest. All they need is to be in 80% heart rate zone for a period of time. 
but yeah using a hammer on nails make you one of the fittest people on earth 

Tell us what you do for a living 

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dang472 wrote:
I’m not going to keep going back and forth with these delusions. I work with guys from Michaels/Precision/Inrock/Midwest Limited, etc. Stop it. Everyone is sitting in...

I’m not going to keep going back and forth with these delusions. I work with guys from Michaels/Precision/Inrock/Midwest Limited, etc. Stop it. Everyone is sitting in their trucks right now because my rig is broke down. I could challenge every employee on this spread right now to a 1 mile run. I’ll be nice and say 30% would finish it and maybe 3 or 4 would be under 12mins. A couple of our welders/fitters are former pro racers so if they were here it’d be more respectable.

Kiernan mx wrote:
3x 20 min exercise bike.  3x30 min gym session.  3x20 min motos.    Do these spread out over the 17 odd ours of awake time each...

3x 20 min exercise bike. 
3x30 min gym session. 
3x20 min motos. 
 

Do these spread out over the 17 odd ours of awake time each day equals 24.5 hours of training per week. 
I could do that right now as a 43 yo unfit as shit guy off the couch. After 1 month it would be easy. Oh. I’d do all my own bike work too because I enjoy it and I’d have plenty of time for it. 

No, you couldn't. At a pathetic crawl, maybe, at best. A decent effort within all those sessions? Completely unrealistic. In fact, as a 39 year old who puts in some decent work each week I had to audibly laugh at your comment.

With the lack of recovery, you'd also be working against yourself within a few days.

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To the guy claiming 30 hours is disappointing. For reference, here are the weekly averages for some elite endurance athletes:

Tour de France level cyclist: 28 hours 

Olympic swimmer: 28 hours

Olympic marathoner: 16 hours

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dang472 wrote:
I’m not going to keep going back and forth with these delusions. I work with guys from Michaels/Precision/Inrock/Midwest Limited, etc. Stop it. Everyone is sitting in...

I’m not going to keep going back and forth with these delusions. I work with guys from Michaels/Precision/Inrock/Midwest Limited, etc. Stop it. Everyone is sitting in their trucks right now because my rig is broke down. I could challenge every employee on this spread right now to a 1 mile run. I’ll be nice and say 30% would finish it and maybe 3 or 4 would be under 12mins. A couple of our welders/fitters are former pro racers so if they were here it’d be more respectable.

Kiernan mx wrote:
3x 20 min exercise bike.  3x30 min gym session.  3x20 min motos.    Do these spread out over the 17 odd ours of awake time each...

3x 20 min exercise bike. 
3x30 min gym session. 
3x20 min motos. 
 

Do these spread out over the 17 odd ours of awake time each day equals 24.5 hours of training per week. 
I could do that right now as a 43 yo unfit as shit guy off the couch. After 1 month it would be easy. Oh. I’d do all my own bike work too because I enjoy it and I’d have plenty of time for it. 

SoCalMX70 wrote:
No, you couldn't. At a pathetic crawl, maybe, at best. A decent effort within all those sessions? Completely unrealistic. In fact, as a 39 year old...

No, you couldn't. At a pathetic crawl, maybe, at best. A decent effort within all those sessions? Completely unrealistic. In fact, as a 39 year old who puts in some decent work each week I had to audibly laugh at your comment.

With the lack of recovery, you'd also be working against yourself within a few days.

Nothing was said about how much effort was going in. Obviously it would be mild af but it’s doable. 

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yz133rider wrote:

Pretty incredible cardio, I expected them to be freaky strong though, so that was also interesting to see.

Fit yes but strong not hardly 

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WarrenMX wrote:
To the guy claiming 30 hours is disappointing. For reference, here are the weekly averages for some elite endurance athletes: Tour de France level cyclist: 28...

To the guy claiming 30 hours is disappointing. For reference, here are the weekly averages for some elite endurance athletes:

Tour de France level cyclist: 28 hours 

Olympic swimmer: 28 hours

Olympic marathoner: 16 hours

Once again that blows my mind. I guess the danger of over training is quite easy to reach. I’m not saying it’s not hard, I’m just saying I personally THOUGHT they were doing a heck of a lot more going off the riders comments about how hard they work. 

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dang472 wrote:
I’m not going to keep going back and forth with these delusions. I work with guys from Michaels/Precision/Inrock/Midwest Limited, etc. Stop it. Everyone is sitting in...

I’m not going to keep going back and forth with these delusions. I work with guys from Michaels/Precision/Inrock/Midwest Limited, etc. Stop it. Everyone is sitting in their trucks right now because my rig is broke down. I could challenge every employee on this spread right now to a 1 mile run. I’ll be nice and say 30% would finish it and maybe 3 or 4 would be under 12mins. A couple of our welders/fitters are former pro racers so if they were here it’d be more respectable.

Kiernan mx wrote:
3x 20 min exercise bike.  3x30 min gym session.  3x20 min motos.    Do these spread out over the 17 odd ours of awake time each...

3x 20 min exercise bike. 
3x30 min gym session. 
3x20 min motos. 
 

Do these spread out over the 17 odd ours of awake time each day equals 24.5 hours of training per week. 
I could do that right now as a 43 yo unfit as shit guy off the couch. After 1 month it would be easy. Oh. I’d do all my own bike work too because I enjoy it and I’d have plenty of time for it. 

SoCalMX70 wrote:
No, you couldn't. At a pathetic crawl, maybe, at best. A decent effort within all those sessions? Completely unrealistic. In fact, as a 39 year old...

No, you couldn't. At a pathetic crawl, maybe, at best. A decent effort within all those sessions? Completely unrealistic. In fact, as a 39 year old who puts in some decent work each week I had to audibly laugh at your comment.

With the lack of recovery, you'd also be working against yourself within a few days.

1 day of training. 

 

0600-0700— cycle and gym

0700-1000— Breakfast an relax 

1000-1100— cycle and gym

1100-1400— 3x 20 min moto and lunch

1400-1900— rest and bike prep

1900-2000— cycle and gym

Doable

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4/30/2024 6:39pm Edited Date/Time 4/30/2024 6:40pm
ti473 wrote:
I just wish he would have asked them what their FTP was in terms of W/kg. "What's the longest ride you've done?" doesn't really say anything...

I just wish he would have asked them what their FTP was in terms of W/kg. "What's the longest ride you've done?" doesn't really say anything about your fitness.

Motofinne wrote:

This. Saying you've done 60-70 mile rides doesn't say anything without also saying the average W/h.

Dean Wilson posted a 5hr century one time averaging 200 watts. I was impressed considering cycling isn’t his target sport. My FTP test last week was 4.4 w/kg. 
 

Jeremy martin’s 5k time is ridiculously impressive. Probably the most impressive thing I heard in the video. 

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Kiernan mx wrote:
3x 20 min exercise bike.  3x30 min gym session.  3x20 min motos.    Do these spread out over the 17 odd ours of awake time each...

3x 20 min exercise bike. 
3x30 min gym session. 
3x20 min motos. 
 

Do these spread out over the 17 odd ours of awake time each day equals 24.5 hours of training per week. 
I could do that right now as a 43 yo unfit as shit guy off the couch. After 1 month it would be easy. Oh. I’d do all my own bike work too because I enjoy it and I’d have plenty of time for it. 

SoCalMX70 wrote:
No, you couldn't. At a pathetic crawl, maybe, at best. A decent effort within all those sessions? Completely unrealistic. In fact, as a 39 year old...

No, you couldn't. At a pathetic crawl, maybe, at best. A decent effort within all those sessions? Completely unrealistic. In fact, as a 39 year old who puts in some decent work each week I had to audibly laugh at your comment.

With the lack of recovery, you'd also be working against yourself within a few days.

Kiernan mx wrote:
1 day of training.    0600-0700— cycle and gym 0700-1000— Breakfast an relax  1000-1100— cycle and gym 1100-1400— 3x 20 min moto and lunch 1400-1900— rest...

1 day of training. 

 

0600-0700— cycle and gym

0700-1000— Breakfast an relax 

1000-1100— cycle and gym

1100-1400— 3x 20 min moto and lunch

1400-1900— rest and bike prep

1900-2000— cycle and gym

Doable

You have no understanding of the output levels and Recovery that they're dealing with but yet you come off  as you can train with these guys I love the INTERNET LOL! Just stop now save some humility🤷‍♂️

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Sandusky26 wrote:
I get some zone 2 cardio running siding solo. I can't drive a big rig but my chick is 8 years younger than me.

I get some zone 2 cardio running siding solo.

I can't drive a big rig but my chick is 8 years younger than me.

A stack of I,m sure weights a bit . Just like a large roll of carpet, all kinds of physical jobs get the heart rate going...

A stack of I,m sure weights a bit . Just like a large roll of carpet, all kinds of physical jobs get the heart rate going. Hey I,m in Clinton,NC. Now , the boys r taking an extended lunch break. Then I hv to go hyper throwing chains, straps. There’s no factory rider that could do any of it.  There legs might b strong enough but there upper bodies r tiny. These Eastern European 1099 trks r more physical than a 130 lb jackhammer. With a hvy wt Indian fighter that was on espn twice. He did a Tyson under card fight, Tyson wouldn’t fight him , because you ko him repeatedly & he gets up. We only got a 1/2 in into thd concrete in 3 hrs straight. It was like an iron rd plate. Hell at 57 I look like I,m in better shape than any rider but Ken.  No cardio tho but who cares it’s about who can sprint & Lead.  Cadio is for some rich kid or office bro that has all the time in the world. If we ain,t working our women want pleasure for hrs. So we don’t hv time for that shit. 

Sandusky26 wrote:

I'm about 2 hours away, we should meet up and smoke a J.

Sorry I can’t but it would b funny watching you burn one. Goof balls took a 1 1/2 hr lunch, I thought they left. 5 hrs throwing straps & climbing all ovr the ld. They lded it past the trl , so I had to reld the rear stuff. The other side has small & big crates , crap under the curtain.  I wish I had a helper like a bro mon had his 8 month Prego women helping with some lt stuff. . I said I wish I had a helper . He said she won’t be able to much longer. I said yeah but she has a sister right, Lol.  85 & a little muggy my butt was soaked in sweat in 5 min.  Azz is dragging b4 I get done , then drive a wild shaking jackhammer. Made it to GA. Sc. Line 74 mpg lded , 75 mt. Yeah let’s go to Houston, 8-900 mi wed. 475.00 late fee if I can’t make 5-2 09.00. Even tho I was delayed 6 1/2 hrs. 

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4/30/2024 7:38pm
Kiernan mx wrote:
Oh yea I’m aware it will be extremely physically difficult. But they really aren’t putting in many hours of that difficult thing. That’s more of what...

Oh yea I’m aware it will be extremely physically difficult. But they really aren’t putting in many hours of that difficult thing. That’s more of what I’m commenting on. They said their absolute max hours they’ve put in for a week during boot camp ( full on way more then normal) is 24-30 hours !!! 
id like to put them on a shovel digging trenches for 12 hours a day 7 days a week for $800 and see how they like it. Or put in some 20-32 hour days. I’ve worked plenty of 20 hour days in a physical job. For 12 months I started work at 7.30 am every Thursday and worked through till 5 pm Friday. Every week. I just thought they put in a heck of a lot more time to their training is all. I kind of seems easy really. Yea hard while you’re doing it but very much a part time gig. No disrespect to the guys it just doesn’t seem as hard as I’ve thought it was for the last 30 odd years. 

Muscle from working is by far the best way to create a complete athletic body. I started working on a farm at 3 yrs old. Tying...

Muscle from working is by far the best way to create a complete athletic body. I started working on a farm at 3 yrs old. Tying to drag a feed bag that weights 4+ times your body wt. you create an explosive & strong body. At 6 carrying milk the length of the barn with a pale that to your ribs. Then to dump it I saw I wasn’t tall enough. So I used a step in like your going in 4 a dunk.  Great genetics too my dad I was extremely quick & strong. My mom was shot at by aircraft in ww2 so she’s quick . plus 7 days a week of work. Created a freak of nature 7th grade I was on the rim, 8 th grade I dunked . In 10 grade I had 68+ vertical & 73 in max. Sit-ups I can still do 1+ hrs of sit-ups, pull ups 100 + easily, pushups 500 +.  100 m always had low 10 sec times until my 50,s.  Wolds strongest horizontal drill rig I never had anyone close for competition. Guys rt out of the marines never lasted a week. Only the tough farm boys. 30 days straight 7 days a week 12-16 hrs days. Pull a 60 in pipe line under a river it’s work until your done . It could b 30 plus hrs, extreme physical work.  Trucking is more physical than a 130 lb jack hammer at least the 1099 Chicago co trks r, that’s 18- 39 hrs straight. Lift , drag , pull 45k a day. Sysco had ovr 100 nfl players that couldn’t do the job n of Milwaukee.  53ft flatbed I haven’t done that since Feb 98. The trl is rusted up , old & nothing works rt. You force it . Your feet to your upper body is everything you got. I noticed every muscle working at max . I thought great , feet for balance & strength, legs getting maxed out. But I didn’t like every muscle fiber across your backside & arms maxed out. Because you can’t ride a bike if your pumped up like a tank. It takes 3+ weeks of 8 hr ice baths, sauna , whirlpool, epson salts baths, s ton of icing to get rid of the pumped up muscle, 7 days a week. It’s a full time job + . Thd 4 th week I,m quite a bit de pumped.  Riding is basically legs & cardio.  I noticed all thd flat bed drivers r super ripped & strong, most r very young. I look at riding as a fun thing & wouldn’t want to ruin it by training. Don’t hv time to train anyway.  

APLMAN99 wrote:
See, when you go all profeshenal is when you really show how much you are willing to lie for attention........ 68" vertical..... Michael Jordan's best was...

See, when you go all profeshenal is when you really show how much you are willing to lie for attention........

68" vertical.....

Michael Jordan's best was 48".  Yet yours was 20" higher than that.

You really are an idiot.  

Only an idiot would think Jordan was the greatest athlete in the nba. He is not even close . Way ovr rated & soft as a mother f er. In 10th grade i was driven to a d1 school & tested against d1 team players , the practice players who where not coach able had Raw athletic talent.  Extremely physical play I smashed 3 players heads off the backboard. Ask any d1 scout I was the one to stop that bitch.  Anyway endurance is boring. Where is there sprint speed times ?  This is 9 weeks out of trk chest muscle 3 in less, biceps 4-5 in less , 8 hrs ice baths, 6 hrs stretch , sauna, whirlpool. 2 antiflamatorys , 2 muscle relaxers, prednisone- makes thd face look weird. Tore rt rotator cuff, bicep , 2 broke bones in wrist with tore ligaments, all disk in neck blow, disks in back ruptured. Waiting on injections. 3 weeks b4 pic I rode I figured I can’t get any more injured.  No working out just at all. 57 yrs old I couldn’t raise my arms both shoulders bad. 

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Level of effort is the entire point of this. Every human body can do an activity at an elevated heart rate for a specific time period. For someone overweight and in terrible shape, 30mins of walking might average 150bpm. Now a guy like Jmart or Johnny O can run a 10k in those 30mins and hold a 165bpm heart rate. Length of training is the same but output is wildly different. 
 There have been a few “journalists” or magazine types that have tried to run along with the Aldon or Star program for a few days. None of them left those programs saying it wasn’t that impressive. Does anyone here honestly believe they could keep up with the minutes of riding and training RJ Hampshire puts in week after week? Nicoletti has talked a bunch about being left for dead on some of those Johnny O bike rides. You might be able to ride a bike for as long as those guys were doing, but not the same pace and difficulty 

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SoCalMX70 wrote:
No, you couldn't. At a pathetic crawl, maybe, at best. A decent effort within all those sessions? Completely unrealistic. In fact, as a 39 year old...

No, you couldn't. At a pathetic crawl, maybe, at best. A decent effort within all those sessions? Completely unrealistic. In fact, as a 39 year old who puts in some decent work each week I had to audibly laugh at your comment.

With the lack of recovery, you'd also be working against yourself within a few days.

Kiernan mx wrote:
1 day of training.    0600-0700— cycle and gym 0700-1000— Breakfast an relax  1000-1100— cycle and gym 1100-1400— 3x 20 min moto and lunch 1400-1900— rest...

1 day of training. 

 

0600-0700— cycle and gym

0700-1000— Breakfast an relax 

1000-1100— cycle and gym

1100-1400— 3x 20 min moto and lunch

1400-1900— rest and bike prep

1900-2000— cycle and gym

Doable

NSP139 wrote:
You have no understanding of the output levels and Recovery that they're dealing with but yet you come off  as you can train with these guys...

You have no understanding of the output levels and Recovery that they're dealing with but yet you come off  as you can train with these guys I love the INTERNET LOL! Just stop now save some humility🤷‍♂️

There is no way in hell I could train with these guys. Not even close. But I’ve never said that. Not once have I said that. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ 

At very low intensity I could do the above schedual right now. Very low intensity. But after 2 years that intensity would be significantly higher. 
-But not once have I said they aren’t fit.

-Not once have I said What they do isn’t hard. 
-Not once have I said I could do what they do

All I’ve said is they don’t put in a lot of hours. 
Am I wrong???

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4/30/2024 10:05pm
Kiernan mx wrote:
1 day of training.    0600-0700— cycle and gym 0700-1000— Breakfast an relax  1000-1100— cycle and gym 1100-1400— 3x 20 min moto and lunch 1400-1900— rest...

1 day of training. 

 

0600-0700— cycle and gym

0700-1000— Breakfast an relax 

1000-1100— cycle and gym

1100-1400— 3x 20 min moto and lunch

1400-1900— rest and bike prep

1900-2000— cycle and gym

Doable

NSP139 wrote:
You have no understanding of the output levels and Recovery that they're dealing with but yet you come off  as you can train with these guys...

You have no understanding of the output levels and Recovery that they're dealing with but yet you come off  as you can train with these guys I love the INTERNET LOL! Just stop now save some humility🤷‍♂️

Kiernan mx wrote:
There is no way in hell I could train with these guys. Not even close. But I’ve never said that. Not once have I said that...

There is no way in hell I could train with these guys. Not even close. But I’ve never said that. Not once have I said that. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ 

At very low intensity I could do the above schedual right now. Very low intensity. But after 2 years that intensity would be significantly higher. 
-But not once have I said they aren’t fit.

-Not once have I said What they do isn’t hard. 
-Not once have I said I could do what they do

All I’ve said is they don’t put in a lot of hours. 
Am I wrong???

“kind of seems easy really”

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4/30/2024 10:16pm Edited Date/Time 4/30/2024 10:20pm
Kiernan mx wrote:
1 day of training.    0600-0700— cycle and gym 0700-1000— Breakfast an relax  1000-1100— cycle and gym 1100-1400— 3x 20 min moto and lunch 1400-1900— rest...

1 day of training. 

 

0600-0700— cycle and gym

0700-1000— Breakfast an relax 

1000-1100— cycle and gym

1100-1400— 3x 20 min moto and lunch

1400-1900— rest and bike prep

1900-2000— cycle and gym

Doable

NSP139 wrote:
You have no understanding of the output levels and Recovery that they're dealing with but yet you come off  as you can train with these guys...

You have no understanding of the output levels and Recovery that they're dealing with but yet you come off  as you can train with these guys I love the INTERNET LOL! Just stop now save some humility🤷‍♂️

Kiernan mx wrote:
There is no way in hell I could train with these guys. Not even close. But I’ve never said that. Not once have I said that...

There is no way in hell I could train with these guys. Not even close. But I’ve never said that. Not once have I said that. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ 

At very low intensity I could do the above schedual right now. Very low intensity. But after 2 years that intensity would be significantly higher. 
-But not once have I said they aren’t fit.

-Not once have I said What they do isn’t hard. 
-Not once have I said I could do what they do

All I’ve said is they don’t put in a lot of hours. 
Am I wrong???

Your initial "80 hours" reply showed how ignorant you are of what goes into a proper training program (for most any professional athlete of any sport really) and how difficult it can be. You came off like these riders don't do much, punctuating it with the "I know a guy..." bullshit.

Then you said it seems easy...

Then you said you could do a 24 hour schedule off the couch...

Then follow up with "obviously" it would be mild...

...Ok, no low intensity... very low intensity...

Keep walking it back. As if "very low intensity" has anything to do with this. Might as well have said nothing because anyone can put in the smallest amount of effort spread over a long period of time, accomplishing next to nothing.

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4/30/2024 11:37pm Edited Date/Time 5/1/2024 12:07am

Johnny O is a bad dude and I had heard that J-Mart is too.
It would be cool to see numbers from Jeff Ward.

This video and thread inspired me to do a self evaluation after my mountain bike ride this evening.
This is my third time running since ACL reconstruction two years ago.

Hopefully you guys don't blast me for posting this.   I'm not the "back in my day" guy and never made it to the A class before age 30.

Personal best one mile was at 3000ft elevation and 110°F on gravel in Afghanistan at age 31.  5:09
Personal best 1/2 marathon (that I recorded) was a couple days before my 40th birthday. 1:24:10

I'm age 43 now.

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In this thread: professional athletes vs profeshenal athletes 

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dang472 wrote:
I’m not going to keep going back and forth with these delusions. I work with guys from Michaels/Precision/Inrock/Midwest Limited, etc. Stop it. Everyone is sitting in...

I’m not going to keep going back and forth with these delusions. I work with guys from Michaels/Precision/Inrock/Midwest Limited, etc. Stop it. Everyone is sitting in their trucks right now because my rig is broke down. I could challenge every employee on this spread right now to a 1 mile run. I’ll be nice and say 30% would finish it and maybe 3 or 4 would be under 12mins. A couple of our welders/fitters are former pro racers so if they were here it’d be more respectable.

Kiernan mx wrote:
3x 20 min exercise bike.  3x30 min gym session.  3x20 min motos.    Do these spread out over the 17 odd ours of awake time each...

3x 20 min exercise bike. 
3x30 min gym session. 
3x20 min motos. 
 

Do these spread out over the 17 odd ours of awake time each day equals 24.5 hours of training per week. 
I could do that right now as a 43 yo unfit as shit guy off the couch. After 1 month it would be easy. Oh. I’d do all my own bike work too because I enjoy it and I’d have plenty of time for it. 

Training at 90bpm doesn't count.

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