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So guys, I'm on a 21 250sx currently, been for like 2 years now and I'm thinking about getting a different bike. 

I turned 30 this year and the 250 wears me out pretty fast these days, we have extensive periods of rain here in the Netherlands which makes riding impossible for long periods, getting back on the 250 after long periods of not riding is pretty though.

I'm an experienced rider been riding since I was about 8 (mainly 2 strokes, had one yz250f) did BMX before that, pretty small guy about (70kg). 

I've red a lot of good things about the 350 on here mainly them being easy to ride and being good bikes overall, there's a 22 350sxf with 25 hrs on it sitting withing a 30min drive from me, the guy wants 5800 for it wich is a pretty good price here. 

On the other hand have I been thinking about getting a 150, I've always liked 125s but they were kinda lacking in power for my likings, most tracks here are deep sand, making a 150 fast fun play bike sounds kinda appealing aswell to me. 

Let me know what you guys think, some advice would be nice. 

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150 if you want to have fun.

350 if you want to win.

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I've had them both and I would definitely go with the 150. I've had 2 low hour well maintained 350's have the oil pump fail obviously causing huge damage. They are a super fun exiting bike to ride but have had bad experiences. Hope this helps.

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I don't know if a 350 will wear you out less than a 250sx in sand. I had a 2021 150sx. It was more fun than any 125 I have ridden. It worked pretty well in sand, and I am heavier than you by about 15kg.

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Good question, I think those are the two best fun factor dirt bikes you can buy. I have a 350 and love it and have been itching to ride a 150 for a while now. Had a 144 when I was a teenager and always remember how fun it was.  

The 350 will be the "easiest" bike to hop on and ride if you're not able to be on the bike for a stretch. I have had 3 Husqvarna FC350s that I've rode and raced pretty hard and have had zero mechanical issues whatsoever. Look around on any Moto site and you'll see more and more people agreeing the 350 is the perfect motocross bike for most guys, especially your average vet rider.

The 150 will be a little more forgiving than a 125 but I've found that riding any small bore 2-stroke requires more seat time to keep yourself sharp. If you want to ring something's neck and hear the sound of a 2-stroke that's your pick but it will almost definitely be more effort to hop on and ride.

I'd say if you can only have one, the 350 would be the pick.

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If I were you, I would be trying to find a way to do both..  I have an FC350 and a TC125, which as another commented above, are some of the most fun bikes to ride.  I pick what I want to ride based on track, or sometimes mood.  I would not say one wears me out more than the other, you obviously have to ride the 125 harder, but the pull of the 350 (that never ends) keeps you on your toes as well.

Go for both Cool

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30 years old and a 250sx wears you out??

Have you tried a different sport, say like chess or foosball? maybe even competitive knitting?

I think knitting would make the most sense. Then you'd be able to knit yourself a cool little purse to hold your tampons.

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Also for what it's worth, if 125s are more available or you happen to find a great buy on one in your area but you're set on the 150, KTM sells an OEM 150 kit thru KTM Power Parts. You'd have to check with your dealer to make sure they're still available, and they're almost $1,000 usd but it's another option if good deals on 150s are scarce. Could always ride the 125 until it needs a top end and then punch it out.

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30 years old and a 250sx wears you out?? Have you tried a different sport, say like chess or foosball? maybe even competitive knitting? I think...

30 years old and a 250sx wears you out??

Have you tried a different sport, say like chess or foosball? maybe even competitive knitting?

I think knitting would make the most sense. Then you'd be able to knit yourself a cool little purse to hold your tampons.

You seem like the kind of guy who goes to an open practice and then goes home and tells people (who didn't ask) that you got 1st place.

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Don’t rule out a nice Austrian 125 either, I prefer the 125 to the 150 and all I basically ride is sand. 

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Rickyisms wrote:

Don’t rule out a nice Austrian 125 either, I prefer the 125 to the 150 and all I basically ride is sand. 

You have both? Why you like the 125 more? 

I owned a tc125 for a while lonely bike, was thinking about getting a 150 kit but eventually sold it for a yzf250, while I was quite a bit faster on the 250f and I was able to ride it for quite a bit longer then the 125 it did take out a lot of the fun of riding for me, nothing really beats ringing a 125s neck. 

 

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Rickyisms wrote:

Don’t rule out a nice Austrian 125 either, I prefer the 125 to the 150 and all I basically ride is sand. 

exc mxer wrote:
You have both? Why you like the 125 more?  I owned a tc125 for a while lonely bike, was thinking about getting a 150 kit but...

You have both? Why you like the 125 more? 

I owned a tc125 for a while lonely bike, was thinking about getting a 150 kit but eventually sold it for a yzf250, while I was quite a bit faster on the 250f and I was able to ride it for quite a bit longer then the 125 it did take out a lot of the fun of riding for me, nothing really beats ringing a 125s neck. 

 

I’ve owned a 2016 150sx and a 2016 125sx since new, still have both of them. The 125 pulls every gear so much further than the 150 even when experimenting with gearing changes. I swapped the 150 over to be my woods bike since it’s got that little bit of “lug”, in an MX only setting the only time I preferred the 150 was on a hardpack, slick track with a 110 rear. You could ease into the throttle a little bit more to prepare for getting out of the corner and not have to clutch the snot out of it to get to some usable power like the 125. The 110 rear is key on the 150 IMO, they really like to start lighting up the rear tire once you hit that short and punchy powerband and the 100 just doesn’t have enough contact IMO. 

 

Have you ever rode a 2015 or earlier 150? Those motors were incredible small bores. A true bored and stroked 150, not just a big bore 125. 
 

A newer 350 and a 12-15 150SX would be an awesome stable. 

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If you have to ask, get the 350.

The riders that want to ride a small bike are always 100% sure about it. The ones that are unsure end up regreting that they bought one.

If you think that a 125 is to weak, the 150 is not a magical fix for it. 

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I have a YZ250f. I love it. I recently bought and restored a 2009 150SX. It is simply badass!! I weigh 190 and i have barely ridden my 250F since i finished the 09 project. Suspension upgrade included. It is awesome! I am turning 55 next week , and i can do 3 times as long on the 150 on my backyard track. And it rips! I missed my two stroke days. 

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Rickyisms wrote:
I’ve owned a 2016 150sx and a 2016 125sx since new, still have both of them. The 125 pulls every gear so much further than the...

I’ve owned a 2016 150sx and a 2016 125sx since new, still have both of them. The 125 pulls every gear so much further than the 150 even when experimenting with gearing changes. I swapped the 150 over to be my woods bike since it’s got that little bit of “lug”, in an MX only setting the only time I preferred the 150 was on a hardpack, slick track with a 110 rear. You could ease into the throttle a little bit more to prepare for getting out of the corner and not have to clutch the snot out of it to get to some usable power like the 125. The 110 rear is key on the 150 IMO, they really like to start lighting up the rear tire once you hit that short and punchy powerband and the 100 just doesn’t have enough contact IMO. 

 

Have you ever rode a 2015 or earlier 150? Those motors were incredible small bores. A true bored and stroked 150, not just a big bore 125. 
 

A newer 350 and a 12-15 150SX would be an awesome stable. 

I rode a 2015 150 once but that it fell flat on his face really fast in my opinion, the 125s ran way better through the whole range, I know the 19-22s do the same but if I end up getting the smoker I will bring it to a tuner to let it run more on the top end of the range where the small bores should be ran. I've seen tuners get 44-45hp out of 150s without too much crazy tuning, should be running pretty safe at around 42-43 hp. 

Getting both would be the best but that's a whole different price point, also zero 150s for sale atm or low hour carbed 125s.. 

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If I were you, I would be trying to find a way to do both..  I have an FC350 and a TC125, which as another commented...

If I were you, I would be trying to find a way to do both..  I have an FC350 and a TC125, which as another commented above, are some of the most fun bikes to ride.  I pick what I want to ride based on track, or sometimes mood.  I would not say one wears me out more than the other, you obviously have to ride the 125 harder, but the pull of the 350 (that never ends) keeps you on your toes as well.

Go for both Cool

Probably gonna get the 350 and save up for a smallbore in the meantime. 

I've had 125s for most of my riding, and the 250sx definitely wears me out harder then the 125 did, the 125 is more active riding and unforgiving but the 250 just pulls so much harder wich really wears u out once u get a bit tired. 

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Checking in:

I have a '19 Husky FC350 that's well setup (suspension, ECU, etc.).  I also have a '14 KTM 150SX that's well setup (suspension, porting, etc.).

The 150 is more fun to ride and race.  The 350 is easier to ride and race.

I ride and race for fun and have a blast no matter what I'm on, but the 150 is a more fun bike.  It's harder to ride, but also not as likely to get away from you.  The reduced weight also means it's easier to handle for a long ride/race.  

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Brah, I’m 54 and ride a YZ250 smoker. It ain’t the bike. I’m never going back to a 4 banger. Riding a 4 banger is like watching GoPro footage and not feeling any of the excitement.
 

If you do want to tame it down, there are things you can do to take the hit away. Add a fly wheel weight and a G2 throttle tamer and it make the bike much broader and easier to ride, but still have that smoker light switch acceleration if you want it.

I’d go 300XC/SX all day if your set on a KTM, but if you were set between those two, take the 150.

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Rickyisms wrote:
I’ve owned a 2016 150sx and a 2016 125sx since new, still have both of them. The 125 pulls every gear so much further than the...

I’ve owned a 2016 150sx and a 2016 125sx since new, still have both of them. The 125 pulls every gear so much further than the 150 even when experimenting with gearing changes. I swapped the 150 over to be my woods bike since it’s got that little bit of “lug”, in an MX only setting the only time I preferred the 150 was on a hardpack, slick track with a 110 rear. You could ease into the throttle a little bit more to prepare for getting out of the corner and not have to clutch the snot out of it to get to some usable power like the 125. The 110 rear is key on the 150 IMO, they really like to start lighting up the rear tire once you hit that short and punchy powerband and the 100 just doesn’t have enough contact IMO. 

 

Have you ever rode a 2015 or earlier 150? Those motors were incredible small bores. A true bored and stroked 150, not just a big bore 125. 
 

A newer 350 and a 12-15 150SX would be an awesome stable. 

exc mxer wrote:
I rode a 2015 150 once but that it fell flat on his face really fast in my opinion, the 125s ran way better through the...

I rode a 2015 150 once but that it fell flat on his face really fast in my opinion, the 125s ran way better through the whole range, I know the 19-22s do the same but if I end up getting the smoker I will bring it to a tuner to let it run more on the top end of the range where the small bores should be ran. I've seen tuners get 44-45hp out of 150s without too much crazy tuning, should be running pretty safe at around 42-43 hp. 

Getting both would be the best but that's a whole different price point, also zero 150s for sale atm or low hour carbed 125s.. 

I've got a 22 150sx and yes in stock form it absolutely terrible with stock jetting even jetted correctly it still fell on its face pretty quickly! Took it to Twisted development it's a completely different motor now wosner crank up complete motor build it pulls from the bottom all the way to the Moon not a weak spot in the power band super fun!

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Rickyisms wrote:
I’ve owned a 2016 150sx and a 2016 125sx since new, still have both of them. The 125 pulls every gear so much further than the...

I’ve owned a 2016 150sx and a 2016 125sx since new, still have both of them. The 125 pulls every gear so much further than the 150 even when experimenting with gearing changes. I swapped the 150 over to be my woods bike since it’s got that little bit of “lug”, in an MX only setting the only time I preferred the 150 was on a hardpack, slick track with a 110 rear. You could ease into the throttle a little bit more to prepare for getting out of the corner and not have to clutch the snot out of it to get to some usable power like the 125. The 110 rear is key on the 150 IMO, they really like to start lighting up the rear tire once you hit that short and punchy powerband and the 100 just doesn’t have enough contact IMO. 

 

Have you ever rode a 2015 or earlier 150? Those motors were incredible small bores. A true bored and stroked 150, not just a big bore 125. 
 

A newer 350 and a 12-15 150SX would be an awesome stable. 

exc mxer wrote:
I rode a 2015 150 once but that it fell flat on his face really fast in my opinion, the 125s ran way better through the...

I rode a 2015 150 once but that it fell flat on his face really fast in my opinion, the 125s ran way better through the whole range, I know the 19-22s do the same but if I end up getting the smoker I will bring it to a tuner to let it run more on the top end of the range where the small bores should be ran. I've seen tuners get 44-45hp out of 150s without too much crazy tuning, should be running pretty safe at around 42-43 hp. 

Getting both would be the best but that's a whole different price point, also zero 150s for sale atm or low hour carbed 125s.. 

NSP139 wrote:
I've got a 22 150sx and yes in stock form it absolutely terrible with stock jetting even jetted correctly it still fell on its face pretty...

I've got a 22 150sx and yes in stock form it absolutely terrible with stock jetting even jetted correctly it still fell on its face pretty quickly! Took it to Twisted development it's a completely different motor now wosner crank up complete motor build it pulls from the bottom all the way to the Moon not a weak spot in the power band super fun!

Yes, mine does require a TON of up shifting on straights. Tops out quickly. Put a FMF Fatty/Shorty combo. Helped a little. Running 188/42 jetting now too. Still could use a lot more revs.

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I've had both and the only useful advice I can give you...

Please dude, for your own sake, try before you buy! One will definitely tick the box and they're both good but they're obviously wildly different.

A buddy, a dealer / demo day, a random cool guy at the track, just get yourself a few laps on them before forking out.

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Rickyisms wrote:
I’ve owned a 2016 150sx and a 2016 125sx since new, still have both of them. The 125 pulls every gear so much further than the...

I’ve owned a 2016 150sx and a 2016 125sx since new, still have both of them. The 125 pulls every gear so much further than the 150 even when experimenting with gearing changes. I swapped the 150 over to be my woods bike since it’s got that little bit of “lug”, in an MX only setting the only time I preferred the 150 was on a hardpack, slick track with a 110 rear. You could ease into the throttle a little bit more to prepare for getting out of the corner and not have to clutch the snot out of it to get to some usable power like the 125. The 110 rear is key on the 150 IMO, they really like to start lighting up the rear tire once you hit that short and punchy powerband and the 100 just doesn’t have enough contact IMO. 

 

Have you ever rode a 2015 or earlier 150? Those motors were incredible small bores. A true bored and stroked 150, not just a big bore 125. 
 

A newer 350 and a 12-15 150SX would be an awesome stable. 

exc mxer wrote:
I rode a 2015 150 once but that it fell flat on his face really fast in my opinion, the 125s ran way better through the...

I rode a 2015 150 once but that it fell flat on his face really fast in my opinion, the 125s ran way better through the whole range, I know the 19-22s do the same but if I end up getting the smoker I will bring it to a tuner to let it run more on the top end of the range where the small bores should be ran. I've seen tuners get 44-45hp out of 150s without too much crazy tuning, should be running pretty safe at around 42-43 hp. 

Getting both would be the best but that's a whole different price point, also zero 150s for sale atm or low hour carbed 125s.. 

Weird, a friend of mine raced a 2012 150 in A200 in GNCC up until about 2016/2017, even got rid of his 2016 125 because the old 150 worked better for him. That bike falls second to my 125 once PC got ahold of the motor as far as fun goes. I think it’s still sitting in the corner of his garage. The 16+ motor doesn’t need a ton to make some ponies, getting just the head cut for the fuel you’re going to run and properly fixing (or replacing) the Mikuni will iron out most of the kinks they come with stock, a TSP ignition is a great bang for the Buck too. I wouldn’t invest in porting unless you’re tired of carrying a stack of cash around. 

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exc mxer wrote:
I rode a 2015 150 once but that it fell flat on his face really fast in my opinion, the 125s ran way better through the...

I rode a 2015 150 once but that it fell flat on his face really fast in my opinion, the 125s ran way better through the whole range, I know the 19-22s do the same but if I end up getting the smoker I will bring it to a tuner to let it run more on the top end of the range where the small bores should be ran. I've seen tuners get 44-45hp out of 150s without too much crazy tuning, should be running pretty safe at around 42-43 hp. 

Getting both would be the best but that's a whole different price point, also zero 150s for sale atm or low hour carbed 125s.. 

NSP139 wrote:
I've got a 22 150sx and yes in stock form it absolutely terrible with stock jetting even jetted correctly it still fell on its face pretty...

I've got a 22 150sx and yes in stock form it absolutely terrible with stock jetting even jetted correctly it still fell on its face pretty quickly! Took it to Twisted development it's a completely different motor now wosner crank up complete motor build it pulls from the bottom all the way to the Moon not a weak spot in the power band super fun!

KHNC wrote:
Yes, mine does require a TON of up shifting on straights. Tops out quickly. Put a FMF Fatty/Shorty combo. Helped a little. Running 188/42 jetting now...

Yes, mine does require a TON of up shifting on straights. Tops out quickly. Put a FMF Fatty/Shorty combo. Helped a little. Running 188/42 jetting now too. Still could use a lot more revs.

It's really worth to take it to a good tuner there's a lot of potential in that motor KTM was just lazy and threw a big jug on it! You can change transfer Port time in to get more over Rev Twisted put a vhm head on mine also but with their spec it's the same package that Emig ran at Loretta's on his 150 crazy good I would recommend this bike for anybody!

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30 years old and a 250sx wears you out?? Have you tried a different sport, say like chess or foosball? maybe even competitive knitting? I think...

30 years old and a 250sx wears you out??

Have you tried a different sport, say like chess or foosball? maybe even competitive knitting?

I think knitting would make the most sense. Then you'd be able to knit yourself a cool little purse to hold your tampons.

Here is a man who has never rode a Dutch sand track in the middle of winter. 

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I have both at the moment, a 22' 150sx and a 21 350 xc-f. They are both a hoot to ride in their own respects. My only recommendation would be to get a carb'd 150 if you go that route. Honestly you can't go wrong with either. But if you are looking for a bike that is easier to ride I would go with the 350. Both engines are happy to rev and more fun then a 450 for most people.

 

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At one time, I owned a 17 350 and a 19 150. 
 350 had an FMF slip on, a 52T rear. 
 150 had a decked head, cleaned up the ports, vforce3 Reed block, modded the stock carb and FMF Gold series with a shorty.
 Both bikes were set up suspension wise and all controls and bars were the same.
  I’m a 350 guy. Vet 30+ “has been” at around 165 pounds for reference.  I’ve had two others since then, on a 23 now. That’s my favorite four stroke engine. 
  The 150 is a fun bike. I didn’t want a 250, and didn’t really want a 125. Was going for a “training bike, carry momentum, relearn the skill” bike. I didn’t care for it stock, but after mods I loved it. Would bring both bikes out, but the 150 saw all the ride time on weekends. Started rethinking it and just rode the 150 full time. 
  Then the Texas “rain every other couple days” season hit.  While the 150 did great, it was much slower first couple motos. Mid day it was business as usual. Started bringing the 350 again, and kinda’ stopped riding the 150 on the weekends, then stopped riding it during the week, since dirt had more moisture.  I’d bring both and ride both, but the 350 took the win, if we are talking bike vs bike. 
 350 can be lugged or rev’d. Never feels out of my control.  Perfect bike for pretty much everything, in my opinion anyways. 
  150 is a punched out 125, and your going to want to be on the gas. Brings the skill back into riding, but not as much as a 125 would.  Fun as hell, much lighter to throw around, but I don’t think I’d have that as my only bike.  As a second bike and a bike to work on skill it’s an awesome addition. 
 Sorry for being long winded, haha. 

   
 

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If your 250SX is hard on you, the 350 is going to kill you. I had one and it was tremendously powerful. I am on a YZ250 now and can ride it every bit as fast or faster but for twice as long.

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OwenJakes wrote:
If your 250SX is hard on you, the 350 is going to kill you. I had one and it was tremendously powerful. I am on a...

If your 250SX is hard on you, the 350 is going to kill you. I had one and it was tremendously powerful. I am on a YZ250 now and can ride it every bit as fast or faster but for twice as long.

I've tried a 23 250 sxf and that thing felt really slow compared to my 250sx, I can easily hang on to that thing for 20,25 mins. Keep in mind I'm mainly riding deep sand. 

I'm expecting the 350 to be stronger but also having more grunt so i can log it more. 

I've ridden 450s and I find them Easyer to ride the the 250 2 strokes, but they just feel heavy af and take all the fun out of riding for me. 

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OwenJakes wrote:
If your 250SX is hard on you, the 350 is going to kill you. I had one and it was tremendously powerful. I am on a...

If your 250SX is hard on you, the 350 is going to kill you. I had one and it was tremendously powerful. I am on a YZ250 now and can ride it every bit as fast or faster but for twice as long.

exc mxer wrote:
I've tried a 23 250 sxf and that thing felt really slow compared to my 250sx, I can easily hang on to that thing for 20,25...

I've tried a 23 250 sxf and that thing felt really slow compared to my 250sx, I can easily hang on to that thing for 20,25 mins. Keep in mind I'm mainly riding deep sand. 

I'm expecting the 350 to be stronger but also having more grunt so i can log it more. 

I've ridden 450s and I find them Easyer to ride the the 250 2 strokes, but they just feel heavy af and take all the fun out of riding for me. 

My experience test riding a 450 in deep sand was that it was the easiest to ride. Always enough power right there to get the bike back on top of the sand whereas a 250f you have to keep it revved out pretty far. I have not ridden a 350f. Maybe it will be the best of both worlds in deep sand? You might find running a mid-soft rear tire instead of a sand tire will make the 250sx less tiring to ride. The mid-soft will slow down the bike.

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exc mxer wrote:
So guys, I'm on a 21 250sx currently, been for like 2 years now and I'm thinking about getting a different bike.  I turned 30 this...

So guys, I'm on a 21 250sx currently, been for like 2 years now and I'm thinking about getting a different bike. 

I turned 30 this year and the 250 wears me out pretty fast these days, we have extensive periods of rain here in the Netherlands which makes riding impossible for long periods, getting back on the 250 after long periods of not riding is pretty though.

I'm an experienced rider been riding since I was about 8 (mainly 2 strokes, had one yz250f) did BMX before that, pretty small guy about (70kg). 

I've red a lot of good things about the 350 on here mainly them being easy to ride and being good bikes overall, there's a 22 350sxf with 25 hrs on it sitting withing a 30min drive from me, the guy wants 5800 for it wich is a pretty good price here. 

On the other hand have I been thinking about getting a 150, I've always liked 125s but they were kinda lacking in power for my likings, most tracks here are deep sand, making a 150 fast fun play bike sounds kinda appealing aswell to me. 

Let me know what you guys think, some advice would be nice. 

I’d go with the 350, if you have the money. If you get tired of it you can always sell it and get the 150. The 22’ is a good year.

Sounds like your 250 just needs a flywheel weight - smooths out the power.

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