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2 Strokes will be back one day. Everyone knows that a modern 2 stroke will out perform any 4 stroke. Stop being sheep, the corporates have you in the palm of their hands (that translates as your cash). How much money to buy and maintain the new 4 stroke crossers, ridiculous amounts! That's why Honda aren't in a hurry to re-introduce the CR's. why should they? As long as you are paying twice as much they will carry on producing half as much.
And just for a little tease look at this brand new Honda CR 85R, it's nearly February 2014 and this bike has yet to see the track. Can't Wait.
trying being a sheperd for a real change in direction, I know I always will.
![](https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/01/22/43107/s1200_RK2.jpg)
And just for a little tease look at this brand new Honda CR 85R, it's nearly February 2014 and this bike has yet to see the track. Can't Wait.
trying being a sheperd for a real change in direction, I know I always will.
![](https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/01/22/43107/s1200_RK2.jpg)
But the displacement game isn't fair. You can race a 450 4 stroke with a 250 2 stroke. It's the rules, not the manufacturers
The Shop
-----------------Love that Service Honda, I would choose that over a CRF any day.
Nice bike though. Bought my kid a brand new 07 for Christmas back then. Feel bad about selling it as it ended up in a bad home.
mike
That bike is the same as an 04(?)-up Cr85. Why would you pay top $$ for old tech?
Modern 2-strokes aren't any cheaper than 4-strokes.
Many of us can afford to ride whatever we want and we still prefer thumpers.
Two stroke threads are always up for some amusement...............
Could the OP try that again, but in English this time?
(NSPTSC)
Kind of has a nice ring to it.
Here's the results.
Both of the bikes lap times where taken today and if your interseted both the cr and crf had 2 session each at only 5 minutes.
Honda CRF's fastest lap laid down - 54.2 seconds.
Honda CR's fastest lap laid down - 52.8 seconds.
These results are from a 13 year old racer who ran the CRF last year and well accustomed to the bike. This was his first day on the CR, had to run it in for 15 miles first and then said after his fast lap "I didn't want to go completely mad as I would like to have more time to run it in and get used to it". I think he needs a litle adjusting to get used to that instant raw power.
Ok the CRF is worn a little bit and the new CR has been raced tuned ( an adjustable cylinder head combustion volume, pro circuit pipe, V-Force reeds, ported and polished and expanded cylinder and carb, re-valved and capped suspension with much stiffer spring rates). all this has added 7 horses at the rear wheel, the dyno showed 28 hp that's a third more up from the standard 21 hp.
Sounds like a cheat but It all came in £200 ($330) cheaper than a new standard CRF. Proof to me that 2 strokes are far better. I expect that all who favour the 4 strokes have never been fortunate enough to experience a modern built 2 stroke. That's the shame of the greedy corporate manufacturers I was trying to explain in my original post.
And to add salt to the wounds of you who ride those 4 stroke tractors, " I'll bet anyone that this rider will take off at least another second from the lap time next ride out"
Conclusion - NO CONTEST.
Pit Row
I suspect mototed works for KTM. You know the bikes, they're the ones you see at the side of the tracks blown up and broken all the time.
In the UK, KTM stands for "Keep Taking Money"
I have an 85 rider also but we are on YZs. He tried the CRF150r and thought it was fun but too heavy. Does this mean all four-strokes suck and we should all be on 2-strokes? No, it just means a 12 year old kids prefers YZs..............
To be honest we very nearly bought a 2K14 KTM 85 (clean looking bike).
Interesting to see how they compare when the race series start up this year.
Let's face it we all know 2 Strokes are far more responsive and much more fun, no wonder the kids love them and seem to develop better when they go through the 125 route rather than straight onto a 250. Why are Honda producing the CRF150 when the kids have finally realised and turned away from them. Six, seven years ago they all had CRF 150's now you hardly see them. That's what confuses me.
( I haven't seen anything of Cheech and Chong in years, now that's cool)
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