Any EX Fatties owe MX for their health? Updated

scooter5002
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9/6/2013 4:05pm
Congrats on winning the battle, stick with it. I've never been fat, per se, but as a truck driver, I've had a few times where I put weight on and been pissed about it. I'm 6' 6" and usually 245 in ride shape, my winter weight usually goes up to 255 or 260. Took a year off from riding and couldn't shake that weight, until I read somewhere that cardio is best for weight loss before breakfast in the morning. Well, lo an and behold, don't I have a treadmill in my basement that got used right after I crawled out of bed. Bam. In a month I had shaken off that 15 lbs, with no other changes in my lifestyle. Maybe try that with cycling if you have the time, I can't imagine it would be any different. Btw, I eat like a fuckin horse, even at 51. I can pack away 2 Big Macs with fries and Coke (which I don't, using as an example for size) and wipe my face and wonder what's for supper. Every day. Try cardio before you eat for a month, see if it works for you.
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9/6/2013 4:12pm
So is that a 125 you are riding? Just kidding. I'm about the same way have struggled with it but not real bad. I think if i can ever get moved out of town and build a practice track I would end up in great shape. I'd ride everyday after work with the boy if all I had to do was put my gear on and go.
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9/6/2013 10:53pm
Best thing I ever did was trade my RMZ450 in on a new Husky CR125. I was 340lbs and it was almost unrideable at that weight, the Husky has zero bottom-mid stock but it made riding fun again for this guy. I rode it stock the first year I had it, with susp. Mods of course. I started riding a LOT because the bike was inspiring, and with a 125 it was truly noticeable every 5lbs I'd lose. At first I thought I'd made a mistake but it just worked better and was more fun every time I rode it.


That winter I installed the 144 kit and waited anxiously for spring. Best thing I ever did! As a 6'7 315lb very out of shape guy I could do anything on this bike that I could ever do 10 years ago when I was in race shape riding 250s. The bike may not have been happy about it but it never complained!

I've since dropped another 40lbs and have another 50 to meet my target weight. I attribute much of it to buying a 125 and using it as motivation. This morning I clocked in at 278lbs, down 100lbs from my heaviest 3.5yrs ago and I never thought I'd feel this good again. When it finally sunk in how far I'd let myself go it was really scary, I knew I had hit rock bottom and had to decide what I wanted the rest of my life to be like.

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9/7/2013 8:54am Edited Date/Time 9/7/2013 8:55am
Here is the thing about battling obesity w/ exercise alone. It doesn't even come close to working.

If you have ever read those little charts that will say for instance " to burn off one slice of cheese pizza you must jog at 60% of your max heartrate for an hour" what you will realize, is that even if you are unemployed w/ no children and have all day to exercise, that you have no chance of burning off say a single fast food meal thru exercise.

If you drink a soda per day, maybe a pastry, or say a cheeseburger that is just not something the average human being can burn off every day.

So what I'm telling you for an absolute fact is that being slender is like 80% diet and 20% exercise. Now exercise has many other healthy benefits but if you have an excess of calories and can't maintain your weight it can only offer assistance, not cure this condition.

I am proof of this. Until about 2 months ago, besides MXing every other week or so (decent speed but oh so out of shape) I had not worked out in a solid 2 years. I use to be an animal before and was ripped but then I broke my back, my wife had a baby, and work got really busy again. But you know what, I didn't gain but 2-3 pounds because I never stopped eating healthy.

2 months ago I bought a mountain bike and I can not recommend this enough for overall physical conditioning, entertainment, and MX skill building.
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9/7/2013 11:00am
a stationary bike and better food choices has made me lose ~40lbs and go from having massive arm pump and being winded in 3 laps to being able to ride for a full 30 min moto and still not be winded when i ride back to the truck.

the stationary bike makes my life easier as i dont have to go out and find time to go to the gym, i just get what i need done when i get home from work, hop on the bike for 45-60 mins, shower up and continue with what i need to do.

so to answer your question, yes, i owe being a little bit healthier to MX, not because of actual ride time, but because i bought the stationary bike with the whole purpose on being to improve my cardio to be able to progress on the track.

i noticed that doing 3 laps at a time doesnt let you progress. right when youre starting to get into a groove, youre winded. when you can ride for 30 mins at a time at your "race" pace, you can actually concentrate on making improvements on the track vs just trying to hang on to the damn thing
9/7/2013 2:38pm
I'm in the process of transforming right now, I've ridden a motorcycle since I was 3 yrs old when I got a brand new 86 Honda Z50 for Christmas. I raced motocross for about 6 years from the age of 14 till 20. I have always been a big framed guy, I was about 5'9 & 170 in 8th grade. But through HS I stayed around 190-200 playing Baseball and racing, Granted I was never in great Racing shape, I could win a C class race pretty easy in a local class and run top 5 and pull out an occasional moto win in the Mega or Ultra Series. Anyways, Enough history, In January of this I was 325, on BP medicine and just feeling like shit, I've been Yo-Yo dieting for the past 10 years, I've lost 40 pounds here and there, but I always put it right back on. In February I told my wife I was going to get me a bike to ride and I was gonna change my life around. (She has never commented about my crazy weight issues, She has always just wanted me to be Healthy and HAPPY) I found a 2002 YZ 250 for $1500.00 Bucks that had the original tires on it and started riding. I also switched hours at my job (I have been a Sheriff's Deputy for 10 years and have been on rotating shifts, I got an office job with the dept. M-F 8-5) started going to gym every morning at 4am and went to a Nutritionist. As of today I weigh 220 lbs and have about 20 lbs to go to be at my goal weight. Tomorrow morning I'm gonna head up to Muddy Creek for the Mega Series Race and race my actual race in about 11 years !!!

The First Picture is me in January, The second is last week at FPT motocross in Columbus, NC
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9/7/2013 4:29pm
Nicely done, gang.

I wouldn't look at an MTB under $1K. Maybe $1.5K with full suspension.

Strava rocks. You can search my real name on there to find me.

I get in better shape during the off-season. Driving through the summer (and getting bored and snacking while driving around the country) doesn't help.

I mostly road ride (usually at lunch), but try to supplement that with MTB rides, and also time in the gym.

This season I'm also trying a couple other things. Carbs are the devil for me. I'm trying to minimize them. Also, I'm about a week in on a salad-per-day meal replacement program. The third item is to try and ditch Diet Coke from my diet.

Currently at 225, and seeing how low I can go.
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9/7/2013 5:14pm
GuyB wrote:
Nicely done, gang. I wouldn't look at an MTB under $1K. Maybe $1.5K with full suspension. Strava rocks. You can search my real name on there...
Nicely done, gang.

I wouldn't look at an MTB under $1K. Maybe $1.5K with full suspension.

Strava rocks. You can search my real name on there to find me.

I get in better shape during the off-season. Driving through the summer (and getting bored and snacking while driving around the country) doesn't help.

I mostly road ride (usually at lunch), but try to supplement that with MTB rides, and also time in the gym.

This season I'm also trying a couple other things. Carbs are the devil for me. I'm trying to minimize them. Also, I'm about a week in on a salad-per-day meal replacement program. The third item is to try and ditch Diet Coke from my diet.

Currently at 225, and seeing how low I can go.
Guy,

Look up "Walden Farms" they make salad dressings that are 0 cal 0 fat quite tasty good coverage and lots of flavors.

As for the Diet coke what got myself off of them was ending up in the ER due to the pain of passing kidney stones.

Water and flavored waters are my choice now.
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9/7/2013 8:27pm
one of the best exercises for your whole body is jumping rope. If you are good at it you can do some interesting stuff like double jumping (really works lower abs), criss-crossing, jumping on one foot, etc.

I would recommend incorporating this into your routine 3 times a week. You can jump rope between sets, for half an hr straight, or just as a warm up. It will help you with balance, help shed weight and strengthen your core.
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mx 219 wrote:
one of the best exercises for your whole body is jumping rope. If you are good at it you can do some interesting stuff like double...
one of the best exercises for your whole body is jumping rope. If you are good at it you can do some interesting stuff like double jumping (really works lower abs), criss-crossing, jumping on one foot, etc.

I would recommend incorporating this into your routine 3 times a week. You can jump rope between sets, for half an hr straight, or just as a warm up. It will help you with balance, help shed weight and strengthen your core.
I second this about the jump roping.

I started jumping rope between sets lifting earlier this summer. It definitely builds up the cardio, and it's a good way to keep up a certain intensity instead of just sitting there.
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9/8/2013 5:04am Edited Date/Time 9/8/2013 5:06am
mynewcr250 wrote:
a stationary bike and better food choices has made me lose ~40lbs and go from having massive arm pump and being winded in 3 laps to...
a stationary bike and better food choices has made me lose ~40lbs and go from having massive arm pump and being winded in 3 laps to being able to ride for a full 30 min moto and still not be winded when i ride back to the truck.

the stationary bike makes my life easier as i dont have to go out and find time to go to the gym, i just get what i need done when i get home from work, hop on the bike for 45-60 mins, shower up and continue with what i need to do.

so to answer your question, yes, i owe being a little bit healthier to MX, not because of actual ride time, but because i bought the stationary bike with the whole purpose on being to improve my cardio to be able to progress on the track.

i noticed that doing 3 laps at a time doesnt let you progress. right when youre starting to get into a groove, youre winded. when you can ride for 30 mins at a time at your "race" pace, you can actually concentrate on making improvements on the track vs just trying to hang on to the damn thing
Also on your stationary bike, mix it up with sprint interval training. 1 mile sprint at 75% (ish) max heart-rate, 1 mile about 50% heart-rate, repeat. 10-12 miles total, takes about 45min. This is what I do for the most bang for the buck as far as results and time. I also watch races on allisports while ride, great motivation.

Also weights and mtb. Eat smaller portions.

35, 6' 2, 177lbs. When I started riding last fall after a 10 year break, I was 205lbs. My only vise in my fitness is beer!

Great post, I love seeing people stop the bullshit and get busy living and not being a lazy fatty. Congrats on all the stories, good stuff.
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wydopen wrote:
just got back into mnt biking after about 5years off... have a 1.5year old boy and was up to 215lbs by not having time to exercise...
just got back into mnt biking after about 5years off...

have a 1.5year old boy and was up to 215lbs by not having time to exercise or eat right with a little baby..

ive done almost 100,000 verticle feet of climbing since May...down to 185lbs and I can now ride solid 20min motos with consistent laptimes..i stopped drinking soda too


if you have an iphone or android get this app:http://www.strava.com/ it tracks all your rides and gives you a count of how many calories you burned...then just eat less than you burned (including what you burn during day to day activities)

i found that app has really kept me motivated..you can also 'race' other peoples times so it keeps it fun and you can track your progress...



if you want a decent bike you will need at least 1400$ for a good used one...dont waste your money on a cheap bike...having a good bike will make you want to ride..you cant buy anything decent thats new for under 1500..you can buy something that was 5gs a few years ago for 16-1700$..
If you're getting a hardtail, you can get a good entry level 29 bike for $800 new. It'll have mechanical disc brakes and entry level components but I survived on a GT Avalanche with the pinch brakes for a couple of years and it has taken some abuse. I actually bought it from a bike shop used for $300 I believe but I got a pretty good deal on it.

I'd suggest staying away from anything fully suspended in the price range he is looking. The Cannondale Trail 5 29er's MSRP is $780 and you can probably find them cheaper in a shop. The SL series is where the Cannondale Trail starts getting better. The 4's MSRP is $1,000. GuyB's price range is a little more in the ball park. However, the more you pay generally speaking, you're getting your money's worth. Most of the bike manufacturers have comparable components in each price range. So it's mainly about finding a bike that you're comfortable on.
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9/8/2013 9:33am
My name is Jason and I am a current Fatty! I am 6'4" and am the heaviest I have ever been, tipped the scales a few weeks ago at 308lbs. I know I need to do something about becuase lots of little things in daily life are harder now and not mention getting out of breath much sooner.

I rode yesterday for the first time in a few months and holy cow was it brutal! 3 or 4 laps and the 30 min. break.....not to mention it was hot as hell~

Here are a few pics of me riding Elsinore during my annual riding trip to socal in Feb. to ride and catch the San Diego SX.

This is a great thread with lots of good advice and stories, very inspirational.



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9/8/2013 9:39am Edited Date/Time 9/8/2013 9:45am
Some inspirational stories, good work. Do it for your family.

Still a "fattie" according to someone like Doctor Oz (that's why I hate him lol). 250, but it's not all fat.

Was in incredible shape at one time of my life from playing hockey. Sick of playing, got into officiating so I possibly don't have the big one lifting my 525 out of a mudhole. So dirtbiking helped, I get my exercise and make a few bikes for boat gas money.
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9/8/2013 11:37am
I read this article the other night and it seems to ring true with my experience - http://www.forbes.com/sites/alicegwalton/2013/09/04/the-6-weight-loss-t…

I was 220 at 24, 185 at 25 (crash diet, worked well) 248 at 32, 218 today (34). I can't spell exercise and the only thing that has changed is my eating habits. Getting older, I can't drop weight as easily. I'm still working my way to 200.
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Chad McCan wrote:
I read this article the other night and it seems to ring true with my experience - http://www.forbes.com/sites/alicegwalton/2013/09/04/the-6-weight-loss-tips-that-science-actually-knows-work/ I was 220 at 24, 185 at 25...
I read this article the other night and it seems to ring true with my experience - http://www.forbes.com/sites/alicegwalton/2013/09/04/the-6-weight-loss-t…

I was 220 at 24, 185 at 25 (crash diet, worked well) 248 at 32, 218 today (34). I can't spell exercise and the only thing that has changed is my eating habits. Getting older, I can't drop weight as easily. I'm still working my way to 200.
Crash diets are probably a one way ticket to disaster, the problem has to do with leptin among others, when you diet your metabolic capacity goes down

When you diet and you lose a lot of weight, the calories you can tolerate is seriously compromised , you have to reverse diet, slowly start adding calories back in

Let your metabolism adapt over time to the increase in calories

Congrats to all on the weight loss
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One thing ill throw in as a big guy. Don't let being big stop you from racing.

I'm 265-270 and race off-road, mostly enduro, and have been winning my class Vet B all year. The last race I overalled the B class against guys that weigh 100 pounds less than me. I'm working on dropping weight but have always been a big guy. Six years ago I was down to 215 after having my jaw wired shut for 12 weeks. I feel much better around 230 it with two kids under the age of two its been tough to ride a lot, bicycle or KTM.

Keep up the good fight guys, I'm doing my best on my end!
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9/8/2013 8:37pm
Like many have said ....diet. Just like your bike or vehicle you make sure the right fuel goes in or else it runs like crap. The body is no different. It helps hanging with people that will help you and motivate you like MTB buddies or work out peeps. You might even help somebody that might be in worse shape than you and you will motivate them. MXers have a never say die attitude(most) and you could teach that to others. Good luck
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9/8/2013 8:46pm Edited Date/Time 9/8/2013 9:04pm
Great ideas in this thread. So I am looking for a little help. I need to loose at a minimum 25lbs and would prefer 35 lbs. as I have gotten older, I am finding it so difficult to loose the weight. Started the cardio stuff, now doing 30+ minutes a day. Probably my biggest problem is work gets me eating irregularly. Any suggestions?
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9/8/2013 10:14pm
wydopen wrote:
just got back into mnt biking after about 5years off... have a 1.5year old boy and was up to 215lbs by not having time to exercise...
just got back into mnt biking after about 5years off...

have a 1.5year old boy and was up to 215lbs by not having time to exercise or eat right with a little baby..

ive done almost 100,000 verticle feet of climbing since May...down to 185lbs and I can now ride solid 20min motos with consistent laptimes..i stopped drinking soda too


if you have an iphone or android get this app:http://www.strava.com/ it tracks all your rides and gives you a count of how many calories you burned...then just eat less than you burned (including what you burn during day to day activities)

i found that app has really kept me motivated..you can also 'race' other peoples times so it keeps it fun and you can track your progress...



if you want a decent bike you will need at least 1400$ for a good used one...dont waste your money on a cheap bike...having a good bike will make you want to ride..you cant buy anything decent thats new for under 1500..you can buy something that was 5gs a few years ago for 16-1700$..
X2.

Mountain bike + Strava = motivation and visual results tracking.

I also road bike. It's a good way to rack up miles. Just learn how to minimize risk. Avoid busy highways, ride early on weekends when not many cars are on the roads, etc. Road biking is good because it's less wear and tear and less maintenance on your mountain bike (moving parts don't like dirt) and you can always leave right from the house.. no loading up to drive somewhere to ride which gives you one less reason to make an excuse not to ride.
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9/9/2013 1:50am Edited Date/Time 9/9/2013 2:45am
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9/9/2013 4:12am
Exercise is important to weight loss, but what you put in your body is way more important. Dump the processed food, all of it. HFCS and other manmade junk that makes its way into our food is the enemy. Beyond Diet .com did it for us. We only signed up for the $99 membership (they will try to sell you lots of stuff when you sign up). I'm not spamming, it just works. We started eating healthy and we lost weight.
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Theres way too many awesome stories here for me to quote them all but GREAT job guys, keep em comming.
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Eat things that either grow or had a face. Seriously.

Cut the bread, sodas, dairy. Your body doesn't need it, your metabolism will kick into another gear in a hurry if you try this.

You could get into excellent shape but without diet changes the weight loss will be extremely slow.

Since you have a bike, just ride it as much as you can and enjoy it!
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I might as well chime in. I'm 53 years old, just under 6'. A little less than 3 months ago I weighed 241. Reached my goal of losing 50 pounds this morning. Weighed in at 190! At 53 and being a weekly MX rider my age is hurting me as well as weighing 241. I said to myself there's not much I can do about the age but I can do something about the weight.

Two comments:

1. I agree with others who've said exercise plays a VERY small role in weight loss. You need to stop putting stuff in your mouth. As previously stated by someone else the amount of exercise needed to burn calories offers little return. I'm NOT saying exercise is bad but it's not the key. I didn't change my activity level at all.

2. I lost it by eating a max of 800 calories a day. I didn't cheat for the duration of the time with even a piece of popcorn or a piece of candy. My diet consisted of a banana for breakfast, a prepared frozen Healthy Choice brand meal sold at all grocery stores with less than 350 each and for dinner a lettuce/tomato, cucumber/onion salad with low calorie yogurt dressing. I drank NOTHING with calories. Just black coffee, diet soda and lots of water.

A good number of people who hadn't seen me during the weight loss initiative have stated they didn't recognize me in my gear with helmet on. Only when I took my helmet off did they realize it was me. They thought I had sold my bike with #60 plates on it to someone else.

I feel great and my riding has improved significantly. Able to stand where I should be standing and save potential crashes that would have occurred at the higher weight.

Now the challenge is to keep it off. I posted a calender above my scale and weigh myself and record the weight daily. I've set a threshold of 5 pounds at which point I will initiate efforts to lose it. I am also going to change my eating habits going forward to greatly reduce what was my typical, daily caloric intake. Below are a couple of pics after the wight loss. Don't have any prior as I didn't like pictures of myself......

Rick




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rikhek wrote:
I might as well chime in. I'm 53 years old, just under 6'. A little less than 3 months ago I weighed 241. Reached my goal...
I might as well chime in. I'm 53 years old, just under 6'. A little less than 3 months ago I weighed 241. Reached my goal of losing 50 pounds this morning. Weighed in at 190! At 53 and being a weekly MX rider my age is hurting me as well as weighing 241. I said to myself there's not much I can do about the age but I can do something about the weight.

Two comments:

1. I agree with others who've said exercise plays a VERY small role in weight loss. You need to stop putting stuff in your mouth. As previously stated by someone else the amount of exercise needed to burn calories offers little return. I'm NOT saying exercise is bad but it's not the key. I didn't change my activity level at all.

2. I lost it by eating a max of 800 calories a day. I didn't cheat for the duration of the time with even a piece of popcorn or a piece of candy. My diet consisted of a banana for breakfast, a prepared frozen Healthy Choice brand meal sold at all grocery stores with less than 350 each and for dinner a lettuce/tomato, cucumber/onion salad with low calorie yogurt dressing. I drank NOTHING with calories. Just black coffee, diet soda and lots of water.

A good number of people who hadn't seen me during the weight loss initiative have stated they didn't recognize me in my gear with helmet on. Only when I took my helmet off did they realize it was me. They thought I had sold my bike with #60 plates on it to someone else.

I feel great and my riding has improved significantly. Able to stand where I should be standing and save potential crashes that would have occurred at the higher weight.

Now the challenge is to keep it off. I posted a calender above my scale and weigh myself and record the weight daily. I've set a threshold of 5 pounds at which point I will initiate efforts to lose it. I am also going to change my eating habits going forward to greatly reduce what was my typical, daily caloric intake. Below are a couple of pics after the wight loss. Don't have any prior as I didn't like pictures of myself......

Rick




Dude, 800 calories a day is way too low. You're going to have serious issues doing that, shit energy, muscle loss, metabolic slowdown, the whole deal. You've got to eat at least 1800 a day if you're a grown man that's almost 6 feet tall. Congrats on the weight loss for sure, it will help with your riding in big ways, but if your body is breaking down because of diet coke, frozen meals, and serious nutrient depletion, you're going to be having other issues.

Just avoid processed shit, like the someone above said, only things that grow from the ground or had a face. Get a juicer and juice yourself veggies and fruits a few times a day. You'll have crazy energy and get good nutrients that way. Cook fish, veggies, tofu, beans, there's endless healthy shit you can make for yourself. Counting calories but getting grocery store food is a bad combo.
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9/9/2013 9:29am
Roy Janson lost 25+ pounds from just stopping his intake of soda's a few years ago, soda is bad for you. Processed is bad also, it's a lot more expensive to eat healthy than not. Try http://www.sugarbusters.com/index.html my girlfriend had been heavy her whole life, she tried this and lost 75lbs and has kept it off for over 8 years now, and it's harder to lose weight for women over men.
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I decided it was time to lose the gut. Too much fast food and restaurants, whatever was quick and easy.

A friend had some recent success with Herbalife products. Raved about how much better he felt, slept better, and lost weight. I checked it out online, seemed that the products were overall rated well (a bit pricey) but the big "knock" seemed to be that it was a MLM based marketing program.

The wife and I both gave it a shot a little over 2 months ago, got set-up with the protein shakes, snack bars, and vitamins. First thing I found was the shakes actually were tasty, and you could mix up flavors with other fruits to make dozens of different combos. They are loaded with protein and vitamins, but only about 200 calories. They snack bars are ok, but I really like the "cool-aid" beverage mix, really tastes like cool-aid but again low calories and high protein.

Basically just a shake morning and afternoon, with a healthy snacks every few hours in between (protein bars, cool-aid, almonds) but my favorite has become the "light and fit" brand greek yogurt. Shit is delicious and only 80 calories loaded with protein. No red meat, and eat a healthy dinner (chicken or fish).

Since your body is loaded with protein, I did not get hungry and it was pretty easy to stay with the program.

Lost 7 pounds the first week, now down about 25 pounds in 2 months (190 to 165). Not spamming for Herbalife, there are similar other diet programs that are protein based shakes.

After a while, your thinking towards eating healthier just becomes natural and I find it pretty easy to avoid the junk food. Even at restaurants they almost always have some low calorie options on the menu. Like others have said, just changing your mindset towards what you eat and being smarter about what you shove in your face. Your body and your dirt bike will thank you.

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