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Edited Date/Time 5/12/2015 5:08pm
That is beautiful


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neverwasfastenuf 4/14/2015 11:28am
4/14/2015 11:28am
Looking at it on my phone so not sure, but from what I see the welds look nutsy. Not impressed from what I see.
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pete24 4/14/2015 11:35am
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i like bills pipes but those are welds over the stamped pipe and look cheesy, buy a scalvini or run a standard bills
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Zesiger 112 4/14/2015 11:37am
4/14/2015 11:37am Edited Date/Time 4/14/2015 11:39am
To be fair because I know someone will say it, it's not a real cone pipe, they took a standard works pipe and added some welds. But that just makes it better because it doesn't change the performance of the pipe. I think it's georgeous, plus I bet you can get it done from 85cc-250cc.
Scalvini performance and fitment just doesn't have me sold.

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mx317 4/14/2015 11:37am
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Are they cutting a stamped pipe and then welding it back together? This is just for looks of course as it would not improve performance over their stamped pipe.
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hvaughn88 4/14/2015 11:37am
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pete24 wrote:
i like bills pipes but those are welds over the stamped pipe and look cheesy, buy a scalvini or run a standard bills
I don't think they intended for it to be a competitor for a true cone pipe. The heading at the top of the ad clearly says "the cone look without the cone price."
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Zesiger 112 4/14/2015 11:58am
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Now the only thing that would swing me toward pro circuit Is the carbon silencer, that's the next step for bills.
rocketsocks26 4/14/2015 12:06pm
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I ordered one last week, should have it anyday, I ll post a pic its going on a 15 300sx
GeorgiePorgie 4/14/2015 12:12pm
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Carbon silencer for aesthetics and look ?

Tricksy tricksy companies are getting 2 stroke fiends closer to the 4 stroke pipe market with these niche ideas.
neverwasfastenuf 4/14/2015 12:17pm
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I ordered one last week, should have it anyday, I ll post a pic its going on a 15 300sx
For your sake I hope the welds on it look better than the one in the ad photo.

Bill's has always had good products as far as I know although I have never personally bought one.
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MX Culture 4/14/2015 12:34pm
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Brilliant idea and marketing.
Bill's rocks.
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Those welds look strange to you guys because it is welded from the inside. What you are seeing on the outside is actually the root of the weld. That's why it doesn't look like a normal weld.
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pete24 4/14/2015 12:46pm
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pete24 wrote:
i like bills pipes but those are welds over the stamped pipe and look cheesy, buy a scalvini or run a standard bills
hvaughn88 wrote:
I don't think they intended for it to be a competitor for a true cone pipe. The heading at the top of the ad clearly says...
I don't think they intended for it to be a competitor for a true cone pipe. The heading at the top of the ad clearly says "the cone look without the cone price."
scalvivni is 375 same money hand made pipe
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420Racing wrote:
Those welds look strange to you guys because it is welded from the inside. What you are seeing on the outside is actually the root of...
Those welds look strange to you guys because it is welded from the inside. What you are seeing on the outside is actually the root of the weld. That's why it doesn't look like a normal weld.
I don't believe it's welded from the inside and that it's the root of the weld. This is a "cone look" pipe, meaning not a true cone pipe. It's just beads of weld around an otherwise stamped pipe.

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hvaughn88 4/14/2015 12:50pm
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pete24 wrote:
i like bills pipes but those are welds over the stamped pipe and look cheesy, buy a scalvini or run a standard bills
hvaughn88 wrote:
I don't think they intended for it to be a competitor for a true cone pipe. The heading at the top of the ad clearly says...
I don't think they intended for it to be a competitor for a true cone pipe. The heading at the top of the ad clearly says "the cone look without the cone price."
pete24 wrote:
scalvivni is 375 same money hand made pipe
In that case, yup, you're right - the real deal is sounds more appealing.
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seth505 4/14/2015 12:52pm
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I can't believe Bills spells out what they are doing (making a regular stamped pipe and then adding welding bead around to look like a cone pipe) and people still make up their own account of what is going on.
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HenryA 4/14/2015 1:00pm
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So welds on a perfectly stamped pipe.....looks stupid to me.Dry
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seth505 wrote:
I can't believe Bills spells out what they are doing (making a regular stamped pipe and then adding welding bead around to look like a cone...
I can't believe Bills spells out what they are doing (making a regular stamped pipe and then adding welding bead around to look like a cone pipe) and people still make up their own account of what is going on.
^^This, Bills makes good stuff , but I would pass on this,

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It's only another $125...
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Zesiger 112 wrote:
To be fair because I know someone will say it, it's not a real cone pipe, they took a standard works pipe and added some welds...
To be fair because I know someone will say it, it's not a real cone pipe, they took a standard works pipe and added some welds. But that just makes it better because it doesn't change the performance of the pipe. I think it's georgeous, plus I bet you can get it done from 85cc-250cc.
Scalvini performance and fitment just doesn't have me sold.
Yeah, it actually says that in the ad already. Nobody has to say it.
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Zesiger 112 4/14/2015 1:45pm
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Zesiger 112 wrote:
To be fair because I know someone will say it, it's not a real cone pipe, they took a standard works pipe and added some welds...
To be fair because I know someone will say it, it's not a real cone pipe, they took a standard works pipe and added some welds. But that just makes it better because it doesn't change the performance of the pipe. I think it's georgeous, plus I bet you can get it done from 85cc-250cc.
Scalvini performance and fitment just doesn't have me sold.
Spagina767 wrote:
Yeah, it actually says that in the ad already. Nobody has to say it.
And yet people still needed explaining^^^
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slipdog 4/14/2015 2:58pm
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I tried to point this out with the Jessy Nelson FMF Fakey, but strangely many of the Vitards didn't believe me...




rocketsocks26 4/14/2015 3:13pm
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This is the scalvini on my 15 300sx, I have the fmf and pro circuit, and should have the bills by friday, so far imo, the scalvini is by far the best pipe of the 3, it has more everywhere n the bike revs to the moon, the pc id say second and than the fmf. The fmf is pretty much the same as the stocker, I cant wait to try this bills , brandon told me that it blows the scalvini away in performance, well c. This is the new version of the scalvini also, their pipes in the past didnt mount well, not a problem though with the new one.
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slipdog wrote:
I tried to point this out with the Jessy Nelson FMF Fakey, but strangely many of the Vitards didn't believe me... [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2015/04/14/87455/s1200_FMF_fakey.jpg[/img]
I tried to point this out with the Jessy Nelson FMF Fakey, but strangely many of the Vitards didn't believe me...




This shouldn't come as a surprise, should it ? Laughing

I've owned a Scalvini on my '07 Suzuki 250 and can say it worked good, but more looks than actual better performance. I went from an FMF SST to the Scalvini. Bills pipes have ALWAYS worked well. Jeff and Bill are really good people, they sponsored my son for many years on 80's, thru the 125's and 250's.
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rocketsocks26 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2015/04/14/87456/s1200_20150402_151735.jpg[/img] This is the scalvini on my 15 300sx, I have the fmf and pro circuit, and should have the bills by friday, so far imo...


This is the scalvini on my 15 300sx, I have the fmf and pro circuit, and should have the bills by friday, so far imo, the scalvini is by far the best pipe of the 3, it has more everywhere n the bike revs to the moon, the pc id say second and than the fmf. The fmf is pretty much the same as the stocker, I cant wait to try this bills , brandon told me that it blows the scalvini away in performance, well c. This is the new version of the scalvini also, their pipes in the past didnt mount well, not a problem though with the new one.
Good to hear, I had a Scalvini on my yz and liked it better than the fmf I had. It did have fitment issues but after minor "mods" it was sweet. I'd definitely consider Bills or Scalvini on my ktm but currently have PC.
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rocketsocks26 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2015/04/14/87456/s1200_20150402_151735.jpg[/img] This is the scalvini on my 15 300sx, I have the fmf and pro circuit, and should have the bills by friday, so far imo...


This is the scalvini on my 15 300sx, I have the fmf and pro circuit, and should have the bills by friday, so far imo, the scalvini is by far the best pipe of the 3, it has more everywhere n the bike revs to the moon, the pc id say second and than the fmf. The fmf is pretty much the same as the stocker, I cant wait to try this bills , brandon told me that it blows the scalvini away in performance, well c. This is the new version of the scalvini also, their pipes in the past didnt mount well, not a problem though with the new one.
Forget the pipe...

Those are some nice looking brake calipers on that bad boy !! Cool
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pete24 4/14/2015 3:50pm
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jessica patterson had a "weld over" pipe on a yz125 a couple years ago, and Digger29 had it eight years ago on his rm250 aka, the Madden pipe
neverwasfastenuf 4/14/2015 4:01pm
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slipdog wrote:
I tried to point this out with the Jessy Nelson FMF Fakey, but strangely many of the Vitards didn't believe me... [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2015/04/14/87455/s1200_FMF_fakey.jpg[/img]
I tried to point this out with the Jessy Nelson FMF Fakey, but strangely many of the Vitards didn't believe me...




Yep
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rocketsocks26 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2015/04/14/87456/s1200_20150402_151735.jpg[/img] This is the scalvini on my 15 300sx, I have the fmf and pro circuit, and should have the bills by friday, so far imo...


This is the scalvini on my 15 300sx, I have the fmf and pro circuit, and should have the bills by friday, so far imo, the scalvini is by far the best pipe of the 3, it has more everywhere n the bike revs to the moon, the pc id say second and than the fmf. The fmf is pretty much the same as the stocker, I cant wait to try this bills , brandon told me that it blows the scalvini away in performance, well c. This is the new version of the scalvini also, their pipes in the past didnt mount well, not a problem though with the new one.
Someone else that is a bonafide MX fanatic. Good on ya brother!

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