RC picks his MXON dream team

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IceMan446 12/10/2017 10:35pm
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LMAO. Take a current rider back to 1981 and plop their ass on the line at the MXdN on a 500cc 2 stroke and watch the...
LMAO. Take a current rider back to 1981 and plop their ass on the line at the MXdN on a 500cc 2 stroke and watch the hilarity ensue.
And vice versa.

Hilarity would also ensue.
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cool_hand 12/10/2017 10:47pm
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Being serious here: Why don't Ricky Charmichael, James Stewart and Ryan Villopoto come out of retirement and race these Euros on our own soil next fall...
Being serious here:

Why don't Ricky Charmichael, James Stewart and Ryan Villopoto come out of retirement and race these Euros on our own soil next fall? Do not say that is is not possible. It is possible. Probable? That is another subject...

Why not? Will not be expected to win. Huge draw. What if they were in contention leading into the last moto. My god, that would be epic. Probably the most exciting event I would witness in person for the rest of my life.

Ryan Dungey can be warming up in the bull pen if one of the three goes down & cannot compete in the event.

Train like a mother, enter some nationals as a warm up...

Oh, and ride 2 strokes. (optional)

I would donate to that cause.

Somebody have their cell numbers? I will get it done...

Dammit this Peyote is wearing off. I gots to go replentish...
This is classic. So crazy, It could almost work. Are you kidding me?? RC, JS, and RV?? On two strokes,..this would go down in history as the American Freight Train,..win or loose, we still win.

Or we could just race Eli Tomac, oh wait, he don't like MXDN, or Anderson,..wait he might be hurt or some lame Japanese rider might land on him,..or we could have Benjamin Button,..but he might fade by September,....or we could get Cole Seely, but the red bike cancels him out,...

So yeah, the epic dream team don't sound too bad, even on a serious Mescaline Trip. C'mon Ricky put it together!!
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Everts, Decoster, @ Anna or JMB, woops forgot the H but that's how we roll these days with gays, then along came the wolves, Rick shawened them all , well they where like a bunch of sheep they followed the pack, Stew Brew, and fill a potato , sorry about the nicks and nacks, that's how I roll, shoot their all legends, harder to pick than a horse without a girdle,
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motomike137 12/11/2017 3:36am
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This is a great bench racing topic!

I'll hand it to RC that this would be a very strong team.

I'd like to see RC's picks up against a team of RJ, Wardy and Magoo.

We need a fountain of youth and a time machine to settle this Smile

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downard254 12/11/2017 4:18am
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Need to figure a way to get Stanton mixed in there. He wasn’t flashy, but he was a great clutch rider, when the chips were down, and he needed a certain result for the win, he got it done. Hell of a go to guy.
travis-grant 12/11/2017 4:19am
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Also my dream team, who we so nearly got to see in 2006. Nothing and i mean nothing would of topped that as long as i lived. No disrespect to Tadesco, he did a sterling job.
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motomike137 12/11/2017 4:53am
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Need to figure a way to get Stanton mixed in there. He wasn’t flashy, but he was a great clutch rider, when the chips were down...
Need to figure a way to get Stanton mixed in there. He wasn’t flashy, but he was a great clutch rider, when the chips were down, and he needed a certain result for the win, he got it done. Hell of a go to guy.
Very true, Jeff did not screw around when it came to the MXdN!

Let's reverse the idea and go back to the days of 4 man teams.

RJ, Stanton, Magoo and Wardy vs RC, Bubba, RV and ?
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drt410 12/11/2017 7:19am
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kzizok wrote:
Era wasnt a qualifer. RC said "any dream team". Keep in mind this is for MXON. O'Mara's MXON performance may be the greatest ever, in US...
Era wasnt a qualifer. RC said "any dream team". Keep in mind this is for MXON. O'Mara's MXON performance may be the greatest ever, in US history.

At the end of the day, this is a broken logic scenario in the first place. Too many varibles with apples vs. oranges to ever have a logical answer.
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It can be quantified though that riders are faster today (with lap times), train more, and ride with better form and technique. Nobody is taking anything...
It can be quantified though that riders are faster today (with lap times), train more, and ride with better form and technique. Nobody is taking anything away from anyone, the fact just is that riders are faster today and train much harder to be at a higher level than those guys were. I would imagine that the waaaay better trained 3 riders mentioned that have better technique developed over decades of trial and error would still beat them back in the day as well. That is something that nobody will ever know but you really think JS7 couldn't hold on to some 1980s Honda 250 when he could seat bounce larocco's leap first lap on a 125? You think they would beat RC as well? I reaaaallly doubt it but that is something that well never know. Just watching those guys its pretty clear though, but again Im not taking anything away from them they dominated in the era they were in with the form that was used and the training methods that were required to win at the time. The sport just progressed and riders got better, thats true of any sport. I don't see how the argument makes sense the other way tbh, IMO those 3 would beat the absolute brakes off of all of those riders but thats my opinion. They were just better because they rode in a better era...so they're better, and Id say on any equipment as well.
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Every few years there is a new crop of riders that advance the sport. They grow up watching and emulating the best. They fine tune technique...
Every few years there is a new crop of riders that advance the sport. They grow up watching and emulating the best.
They fine tune technique and develop new techniques. However because we have gone through several evolutions of the sport I find it hard to believe anybody would say (picking a random rider with some current success) Davi Milsaps is better than mcgrath. Even so MC was from a past era.
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Lol somebody always has to be that guy. Nobody is saying that at all. McGrath raced up until the RC era your taking something and going to the extreeeeeeme. Literally nobody said davi or orther top ten riders are better than McGrath, nobody implied it, nobody thought it, your reaching to try to argue a point that nobody made. Chill out bro seriously. Comparing James Stewart to Bob Hanna is soooooo extremely different than McGrath to Millsaps.
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Lol somebody always has to be that guy. Nobody is saying that at all. McGrath raced up until the RC era your taking something and going...
Lol somebody always has to be that guy. Nobody is saying that at all. McGrath raced up until the RC era your taking something and going to the extreeeeeeme. Literally nobody said davi or orther top ten riders are better than McGrath, nobody implied it, nobody thought it, your reaching to try to argue a point that nobody made. Chill out bro seriously. Comparing James Stewart to Bob Hanna is soooooo extremely different than McGrath to Millsaps.
I think the point is if you took any one of those top riders in their prime and dropped them in today they'd most likely rise to the top . No way to prove it of course , its all bench racing. But take DeCoster for example . He started his career on a CZ with 3 inches of travel .... He won both motos in the final race of his career on a pro link Honda . That Honda is more comparable to today's machinery than to what he started on. He adapted and evolved with the machinery . Champions will always be champions.
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Also my dream team, who we so nearly got to see in 2006. Nothing and i mean nothing would of topped that as long as i...
Also my dream team, who we so nearly got to see in 2006. Nothing and i mean nothing would of topped that as long as i lived. No disrespect to Tadesco, he did a sterling job.
It was only a couple of months away from happening in 2007 as well.
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visser62 12/11/2017 9:12am
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If Rafael Palmeiro ends up coming back to MLB, we may have to rethink this whole thing.
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ROCKNDAWG 12/11/2017 9:34am
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Just to stand up for the old dudes that some are saying suck compared to the newer batch. I'm an old dude (63) so I have seen most everyone. And I don't agree, bikes have gotten tons better, crap I'm faster now than at 17 thanks to the newer bikes. But you can't say these new guys are better never seeing the old dudes ride. If you never saw in person how smooth and exact David Bailey technically was, along with Johnny-0 and Broc Glover and others you can't say these new guys have better technique, seeing both I don't agree. Same with training, I have compete in bike races and Triathlons back in the days where these same 3 guys have showed up and won. These guys trained their backside off. Same with raw speed, i feel sorry that you guys never got to see Bob Hannah in his prime. Same with the people who say how stacked the field is now days....back than it was sooooo much harder to win. Any one of 6-8 guys could win any given night at SX. Even the fact there were so many more people racing back then it made it a real pain to just be a good local pro, no less make it professorial. Saddleback used to have 3 or 4 full gates of juniors just on a normal Sunday race. You don't see that any longer.
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FreshTopEnd 12/11/2017 11:13am
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kzizok wrote:
Era wasnt a qualifer. RC said "any dream team". Keep in mind this is for MXON. O'Mara's MXON performance may be the greatest ever, in US...
Era wasnt a qualifer. RC said "any dream team". Keep in mind this is for MXON. O'Mara's MXON performance may be the greatest ever, in US history.

At the end of the day, this is a broken logic scenario in the first place. Too many varibles with apples vs. oranges to ever have a logical answer.
Candidate for second best US performance. Magoo 4x4 in 82 is the greatest performance in the history of the event by any rider of any country.
scottydogmx 12/11/2017 1:58pm
12/11/2017 1:58pm
Well I feel lucky and privileged to have actually seen RC, Bubba and RV at the mxdn in 06.
Just a shame RC couldn't race that day , I would have loved to Stefan Everts and the Goat go at it.
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downard254 12/11/2017 2:41pm
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I forgot to mention the Bomber. He fell in the footsteps of Hannah for training and reminded me of RC. He was a machine.
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Whymee wrote:
Being serious here: Why don't Ricky Charmichael, James Stewart and Ryan Villopoto come out of retirement and race these Euros on our own soil next fall...
Being serious here:

Why don't Ricky Charmichael, James Stewart and Ryan Villopoto come out of retirement and race these Euros on our own soil next fall? Do not say that is is not possible. It is possible. Probable? That is another subject...

Why not? Will not be expected to win. Huge draw. What if they were in contention leading into the last moto. My god, that would be epic. Probably the most exciting event I would witness in person for the rest of my life.

Ryan Dungey can be warming up in the bull pen if one of the three goes down & cannot compete in the event.

Train like a mother, enter some nationals as a warm up...

Oh, and ride 2 strokes. (optional)

I would donate to that cause.

Somebody have their cell numbers? I will get it done...

Dammit this Peyote is wearing off. I gots to go replentish...
Dungey is not a good fill in off the bench racer
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kkawboy14 12/11/2017 3:03pm
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Vintage Retired pros MXDN would be awesome

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slipdog 12/11/2017 3:32pm
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kzizok wrote:
Era wasnt a qualifer. RC said "any dream team". Keep in mind this is for MXON. O'Mara's MXON performance may be the greatest ever, in US...
Era wasnt a qualifer. RC said "any dream team". Keep in mind this is for MXON. O'Mara's MXON performance may be the greatest ever, in US history.

At the end of the day, this is a broken logic scenario in the first place. Too many varibles with apples vs. oranges to ever have a logical answer.
FreshTopEnd wrote:
Candidate for second best US performance. Magoo 4x4 in 82 is the greatest performance in the history of the event by any rider of any country.
Lest we not forget the time Lamson outright won a moto on a 125.
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LastCall211 12/11/2017 4:43pm
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Everyone always talks about what The O Show did on a 125 in Italy in 86, but Lamson’s legendary performance in 96 always gets glossed over.
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kzizok 12/11/2017 4:48pm
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kzizok wrote:
Era wasnt a qualifer. RC said "any dream team". Keep in mind this is for MXON. O'Mara's MXON performance may be the greatest ever, in US...
Era wasnt a qualifer. RC said "any dream team". Keep in mind this is for MXON. O'Mara's MXON performance may be the greatest ever, in US history.

At the end of the day, this is a broken logic scenario in the first place. Too many varibles with apples vs. oranges to ever have a logical answer.
FreshTopEnd wrote:
Candidate for second best US performance. Magoo 4x4 in 82 is the greatest performance in the history of the event by any rider of any country.
slipdog wrote:
Lest we not forget the time Lamson outright won a moto on a 125.
You boys make good points.
1st Amendment 12/11/2017 5:10pm
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He's gotta be more specific about his picks. Does he take a pre-Aldon James and RV? I don't put James 2010-2017 in that spot and I don't put a pre-Aldon RV on the bigbike unless we're putting him on a 250f. I'd go with Johnny O, Jeff Ward and RC.
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Firefly47 12/11/2017 5:56pm
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kzizok wrote:
Era wasnt a qualifer. RC said "any dream team". Keep in mind this is for MXON. O'Mara's MXON performance may be the greatest ever, in US...
Era wasnt a qualifer. RC said "any dream team". Keep in mind this is for MXON. O'Mara's MXON performance may be the greatest ever, in US history.

At the end of the day, this is a broken logic scenario in the first place. Too many varibles with apples vs. oranges to ever have a logical answer.
FreshTopEnd wrote:
Candidate for second best US performance. Magoo 4x4 in 82 is the greatest performance in the history of the event by any rider of any country.
slipdog wrote:
Lest we not forget the time Lamson outright won a moto on a 125.
And was jumping bigger and further than just about anyone!

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