Star Racing Yamaha Suspension

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Quick question is star racing yamaha subjected to the same rules in regards to suspension being available for x dollars etc?



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Helda 5/23/2019 9:14pm
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Why thumbs down brah?
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That’s just KYB/Technical Touch Kit suspension with the air fork option. You can buy that online for the most part.
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Helda 5/23/2019 9:30pm
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No you cant the shock body is billet and different tripple adjuster.

Triple adjuster cap is not available in any way shape or form to the public.
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Crush 5/23/2019 9:31pm
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They have to be available to those with a pro-card I believe?
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cwtoyota 5/23/2019 9:37pm
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Are you guys sure that rule applies outdoors?
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Helda 5/23/2019 9:39pm
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cwtoyota wrote:
Are you guys sure that rule applies outdoors?
Nope but these phots are from the Vegas pit bits.

I dont believe it says anyting about pro card in the AMA rule book.
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Helda 5/23/2019 9:50pm
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Correct need a pro licence, wonder how that would go over, anyone on here have a pro licence racing SX.


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Lightning78 5/23/2019 10:07pm
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Helda wrote:
Quick question is star racing yamaha subjected to the same rules in regards to suspension being available for x dollars etc? [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/05/23/349792/s1200_Screenshot_20190524_140216_Samsung_Internet.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/05/23/349793/s1200_Screenshot_20190524_140241_Samsung_Internet.jpg[/img]
Quick question is star racing yamaha subjected to the same rules in regards to suspension being available for x dollars etc?



Am i the only one that thinks that seat juncyoon looks like pure hot garbage on a FACTORY bike? Its not even close to lining up.....

The gas cap cover is purely an oem part and the main seat assembly gives zero eff's about lining up with it......not even a little bit.

Maybe that sounds petty and cosmetic but geez .....even ive come up with an idea that qould look SO much better and work in a similar fashion and no i didnt come on to hijack the thread or sell an idea....im just amazed there arent more people that haven mentioned this......it bugs me every time i see a factory yamaha 250f or 450f
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Helda 5/23/2019 10:19pm
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Yeah it shits me.
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ML512 5/23/2019 10:32pm
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The shock body on the Star bike isn’t billet, it’s cast. Two of the Star guys run a standard KYB adjuster with high and low speed compression as found on the stock YZ shock while two of the riders run the three adjuster that comes stock on the Suzuki KYB shock.

The fork is PSF1, Enzo started converting the forks back in 2013. Enzo and Technical Touch can get you them. The fork cap is unique and base valve, but neither of those parts are part of the homologation project. Honestly, KYB’s kit suspension is the closest to stock components of the main three’s kit options.
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Helda 5/23/2019 10:46pm
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Are you saying that enzo and TT can get the caps, looking at the triple adjuster it looks to be the larger adjuster.
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ML512 wrote:
The shock body on the Star bike isn’t billet, it’s cast. Two of the Star guys run a standard KYB adjuster with high and low speed...
The shock body on the Star bike isn’t billet, it’s cast. Two of the Star guys run a standard KYB adjuster with high and low speed compression as found on the stock YZ shock while two of the riders run the three adjuster that comes stock on the Suzuki KYB shock.

The fork is PSF1, Enzo started converting the forks back in 2013. Enzo and Technical Touch can get you them. The fork cap is unique and base valve, but neither of those parts are part of the homologation project. Honestly, KYB’s kit suspension is the closest to stock components of the main three’s kit options.
HOW DARE YOU COME IN HERE WITH FACTS!!

HOW DARE YOU! :-)

Someone go bump the 52 mm KTM cheater thread.
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chuckdavies 5/24/2019 1:34am
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Helda wrote:
No you cant the shock body is billet and different tripple adjuster. Triple adjuster cap is not available in any way shape or form to the...
No you cant the shock body is billet and different tripple adjuster.

Triple adjuster cap is not available in any way shape or form to the public.
I think a small apology is in order now ML512 has shut down your claims Smile
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Helda 5/24/2019 3:59am
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Are the triple adjuster caps available?
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dmm698 5/24/2019 5:34am
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Helda wrote:
No you cant the shock body is billet and different tripple adjuster. Triple adjuster cap is not available in any way shape or form to the...
No you cant the shock body is billet and different tripple adjuster.

Triple adjuster cap is not available in any way shape or form to the public.
You can literally see the casting marks on the shock from the one single photo you posted - Plenty of vendors including KYB sell triple adjuster compression assemblies for the shock. As ML said, the kit KYB suspension is super similar to production stuff, more so than the other companies kit suspension.
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ML512 5/24/2019 6:00am
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Helda wrote:
Are you saying that enzo and TT can get the caps, looking at the triple adjuster it looks to be the larger adjuster.
They can’t not sell the fork adjuster cap, but the rules don’t require KYB to sell that part as it’s not on the homologation list.

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racerx217 5/24/2019 6:06am
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Helda wrote:
No you cant the shock body is billet and different tripple adjuster. Triple adjuster cap is not available in any way shape or form to the...
No you cant the shock body is billet and different tripple adjuster.

Triple adjuster cap is not available in any way shape or form to the public.
that shock body is not billet and here is a link to where you can buy all of that,
https://www.technical-touch.com/kyb-main
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JBrockman856 5/24/2019 6:09am
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Am I the only one that read this topic and thought the whole Star team was suspended for something haha
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Alex814 5/24/2019 6:38am
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So does this rule apply to outdoors? Hunter Lawrence said on the pulpmx show this week that he runs works suspension.
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ML512 5/24/2019 6:43am
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Alex814 wrote:
So does this rule apply to outdoors? Hunter Lawrence said on the pulpmx show this week that he runs works suspension.
Yes it does and no he doesn't, he's on kit KYB, not works.

Funny one, Ken Roczen is technically on A-kit Showa these days, not works.
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Alex814 5/24/2019 6:46am
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Alex814 wrote:
So does this rule apply to outdoors? Hunter Lawrence said on the pulpmx show this week that he runs works suspension.
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Yes it does and no he doesn't, he's on kit KYB, not works.

Funny one, Ken Roczen is technically on A-kit Showa these days, not works.
Thanks for the clarification.
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Alex814 wrote:
So does this rule apply to outdoors? Hunter Lawrence said on the pulpmx show this week that he runs works suspension.
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Yes it does and no he doesn't, he's on kit KYB, not works.

Funny one, Ken Roczen is technically on A-kit Showa these days, not works.
Hunter clarified what he said after that...
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Alex814 wrote:
So does this rule apply to outdoors? Hunter Lawrence said on the pulpmx show this week that he runs works suspension.
ML512 wrote:
Yes it does and no he doesn't, he's on kit KYB, not works.

Funny one, Ken Roczen is technically on A-kit Showa these days, not works.
What's the difference between A-kit and true "works" forks? Is it just coatings and materials, or is the internal configuration different?
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ML512 5/24/2019 7:33am
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Alex814 wrote:
So does this rule apply to outdoors? Hunter Lawrence said on the pulpmx show this week that he runs works suspension.
ML512 wrote:
Yes it does and no he doesn't, he's on kit KYB, not works.

Funny one, Ken Roczen is technically on A-kit Showa these days, not works.
GrapeApe wrote:
What's the difference between A-kit and true "works" forks? Is it just coatings and materials, or is the internal configuration different?
Shock wise it's usually a billet body instead of a cast. There can be a difference in the shock clevis and maybe the adjuster, but it's usually just the body.

Fork wise, it's more down to the tubes and what upper diameter/tapers a team orders (kit is usually one base design), fork lugs where they ask for different widths, etc. Then top caps and their designs.
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Silvers_Racing 5/24/2019 7:59am
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Helda wrote:
Quick question is star racing yamaha subjected to the same rules in regards to suspension being available for x dollars etc? [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/05/23/349792/s1200_Screenshot_20190524_140216_Samsung_Internet.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/05/23/349793/s1200_Screenshot_20190524_140241_Samsung_Internet.jpg[/img]
Quick question is star racing yamaha subjected to the same rules in regards to suspension being available for x dollars etc?



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Am i the only one that thinks that seat juncyoon looks like pure hot garbage on a FACTORY bike? Its not even close to lining up...
Am i the only one that thinks that seat juncyoon looks like pure hot garbage on a FACTORY bike? Its not even close to lining up.....

The gas cap cover is purely an oem part and the main seat assembly gives zero eff's about lining up with it......not even a little bit.

Maybe that sounds petty and cosmetic but geez .....even ive come up with an idea that qould look SO much better and work in a similar fashion and no i didnt come on to hijack the thread or sell an idea....im just amazed there arent more people that haven mentioned this......it bugs me every time i see a factory yamaha 250f or 450f
I guess I dont care what it looks like its working...They have more bikes in the Top 5 then any other team just about every weekend.
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Helda 5/25/2019 8:21pm
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Ok so i guess there is a bit of a loop he here that gives Star Racing an advantage?
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ML512 5/25/2019 9:12pm
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Helda wrote:
Ok so i guess there is a bit of a loop he here that gives Star Racing an advantage?
What are you talking about?
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