Villopoto kind of bothers me a little

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Listen, I am not complaining first of all. I love the kid, one of the greatest riders ever. However, doesn't he just come across as not...
Listen, I am not complaining first of all. I love the kid, one of the greatest riders ever.

However, doesn't he just come across as not really enjoying what he's doing? He always kind of seems like he's in a bad mood like well here I go again, don't really want to be here but might as well. He also comes across a little stand offish to the reporters even though he is more than friendly enough he just puts off a vibe that he would rather not be interviewed.

Is it just me here that thinks this? If I am right in my perception of him what do you think bugs him most about what he is doing and why he can't enjoy it more? Is it the constant training, just so much damn hard work, the politics, people around him?

Guys a warrior and maybe he's just freakin tired and wants to relax. It's a very demanding job for sure.
I know where your coming from, your expectations might be a bit too high.

Put your self in the guys shoes - can you imagine what its like to be in under the microscope of thpusands of press and fans on race day. Then add the race day pressure cooker.

Listen to the Pulp Mx post race interviews and Pulp MX Show guest appearances - Mathis freakin bust's RV balls! Ryan plays ball with Matthes and has fun with the theme of the show. He does a great job not taking himself too serious and being lighthearted in the process.

RV personality on average is Monotone.

I think bottom line is... his priority is wining championships.
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scott_nz wrote:
Tyler Bowers puts it well, [img]http://instagram.com/p/nR2Q_3A9mh/ [/img]
Tyler Bowers puts it well,

jeffro503 wrote:
He put it very well indeed!
That a pretty good take on it. It is just a bummer to see these guys retire and never throw a leg over a bike again. That is the impression I get from his attitude.
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I know that I will never fully understand the level of commitment and sacrifice that being at RV's level takes, and I accept that. But I know that he works hard and, doing something we all pay a lot of money to do as a hobby, has achieved enough financial success to retire at 27 and live a more comfortable life than 99% of the members of this board could ever hope for.

So while I agree with these top level athletes that we will never know what it's like to walk a mile in their shoes, they need to understand that they will never know what it's like to walk a lifetime in our shoes. They will never understand working 50+ hours a week in a cube. Ryan will never truly understand what it's like to struggle to make ends meet and monitor every penny spent so that the lights stay on. He will never understand that real burnout is 40 years in the work force where there is no entourage or fans. I will never own a Ferrari, nor will I ever have the ability to see the world like Ryan will get to. I will never get to retire with so much of my life left to live in such a huge house with a great piece of land.

I consider myself very blessed and I love the life that I live, but I get really tired of hearing these guys talk about how we don't understand how hard the grind is. Yes, they work incredibly hard for 10 - 15 years. But they'll never know what it's like to work incredibly hard in a different way for 40+ years pinching pennies all the way.

/rant
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I suppose I should say that I know Ryan didn't say we don't understand (though I think it's fairly implied), and that my rant was more pointed at Bowers' dumbass post.

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Grieby54 wrote:
I know that I will never fully understand the level of commitment and sacrifice that being at RV's level takes, and I accept that. But I...
I know that I will never fully understand the level of commitment and sacrifice that being at RV's level takes, and I accept that. But I know that he works hard and, doing something we all pay a lot of money to do as a hobby, has achieved enough financial success to retire at 27 and live a more comfortable life than 99% of the members of this board could ever hope for.

So while I agree with these top level athletes that we will never know what it's like to walk a mile in their shoes, they need to understand that they will never know what it's like to walk a lifetime in our shoes. They will never understand working 50+ hours a week in a cube. Ryan will never truly understand what it's like to struggle to make ends meet and monitor every penny spent so that the lights stay on. He will never understand that real burnout is 40 years in the work force where there is no entourage or fans. I will never own a Ferrari, nor will I ever have the ability to see the world like Ryan will get to. I will never get to retire with so much of my life left to live in such a huge house with a great piece of land.

I consider myself very blessed and I love the life that I live, but I get really tired of hearing these guys talk about how we don't understand how hard the grind is. Yes, they work incredibly hard for 10 - 15 years. But they'll never know what it's like to work incredibly hard in a different way for 40+ years pinching pennies all the way.

/rant
you cant ask him to know how a regular job feels, everything feel like a regular job if you do it long enough

just makes no sense to say he doesn't know how hard it really is.

imo the great thing about mx is: some are better than others and its not based on

personal opinions or popularity or umpires rulings or team mates.

hes just fcking quicker
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Bothers me too. It's not fair to say that he's sacrificed so much and trains so hard therefore he shouldn't be expected to show joy. I remember Rick Carbunkle training like a mad dog with the same trainer, but he could show a little emotion and satisfaction after a championship.All the riders train hard and dedicate their lives to this, RV is the only one I see acting so grumpy about it. As a fan of the sport, I'm entitled to not like RV or his attitude for those reasons.
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Grieby54 wrote:
I know that I will never fully understand the level of commitment and sacrifice that being at RV's level takes, and I accept that. But I...
I know that I will never fully understand the level of commitment and sacrifice that being at RV's level takes, and I accept that. But I know that he works hard and, doing something we all pay a lot of money to do as a hobby, has achieved enough financial success to retire at 27 and live a more comfortable life than 99% of the members of this board could ever hope for.

So while I agree with these top level athletes that we will never know what it's like to walk a mile in their shoes, they need to understand that they will never know what it's like to walk a lifetime in our shoes. They will never understand working 50+ hours a week in a cube. Ryan will never truly understand what it's like to struggle to make ends meet and monitor every penny spent so that the lights stay on. He will never understand that real burnout is 40 years in the work force where there is no entourage or fans. I will never own a Ferrari, nor will I ever have the ability to see the world like Ryan will get to. I will never get to retire with so much of my life left to live in such a huge house with a great piece of land.

I consider myself very blessed and I love the life that I live, but I get really tired of hearing these guys talk about how we don't understand how hard the grind is. Yes, they work incredibly hard for 10 - 15 years. But they'll never know what it's like to work incredibly hard in a different way for 40+ years pinching pennies all the way.

/rant
wow123 wrote:
you cant ask him to know how a regular job feels, everything feel like a regular job if you do it long enough just makes no...
you cant ask him to know how a regular job feels, everything feel like a regular job if you do it long enough

just makes no sense to say he doesn't know how hard it really is.

imo the great thing about mx is: some are better than others and its not based on

personal opinions or popularity or umpires rulings or team mates.

hes just fcking quicker
I know that racing feels like a job to him. A job that is, without a doubt, harder than mine. However, I'm not making a 7-8 figure annual salary. I don't get to retire before I turn 30. He has certainly faced a different set of struggles and obstacles than I have, but he is about to get to walk away from the grind. I still have another 35 years to go.
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In the thread: personality conflicts. Congrats to RV!
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4/27/2014 11:07am Edited Date/Time 4/27/2014 11:08am
Grieby54 wrote:
I know that I will never fully understand the level of commitment and sacrifice that being at RV's level takes, and I accept that. But I...
I know that I will never fully understand the level of commitment and sacrifice that being at RV's level takes, and I accept that. But I know that he works hard and, doing something we all pay a lot of money to do as a hobby, has achieved enough financial success to retire at 27 and live a more comfortable life than 99% of the members of this board could ever hope for.

So while I agree with these top level athletes that we will never know what it's like to walk a mile in their shoes, they need to understand that they will never know what it's like to walk a lifetime in our shoes. They will never understand working 50+ hours a week in a cube. Ryan will never truly understand what it's like to struggle to make ends meet and monitor every penny spent so that the lights stay on. He will never understand that real burnout is 40 years in the work force where there is no entourage or fans. I will never own a Ferrari, nor will I ever have the ability to see the world like Ryan will get to. I will never get to retire with so much of my life left to live in such a huge house with a great piece of land.

I consider myself very blessed and I love the life that I live, but I get really tired of hearing these guys talk about how we don't understand how hard the grind is. Yes, they work incredibly hard for 10 - 15 years. But they'll never know what it's like to work incredibly hard in a different way for 40+ years pinching pennies all the way.

/rant
One of the best, most insightful posts I've read in a long time
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Bothers me too. It's not fair to say that he's sacrificed so much and trains so hard therefore he shouldn't be expected to show joy. I...
Bothers me too. It's not fair to say that he's sacrificed so much and trains so hard therefore he shouldn't be expected to show joy. I remember Rick Carbunkle training like a mad dog with the same trainer, but he could show a little emotion and satisfaction after a championship.All the riders train hard and dedicate their lives to this, RV is the only one I see acting so grumpy about it. As a fan of the sport, I'm entitled to not like RV or his attitude for those reasons.
oh brother!
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Threads like these provide some hints and insights why the divorce rate is so high in the USA.

Some of you a bit heavy on the Nit Picking.
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4/27/2014 11:19am Edited Date/Time 4/27/2014 11:31am
scott_nz wrote:
Tyler Bowers puts it well, [img]http://instagram.com/p/nR2Q_3A9mh/ [/img]
Tyler Bowers puts it well,

Boom. I'd say Tyler is nail-on-the-head.

But...so did Grieby54.
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I suppose I should say that I know Ryan didn't say we don't understand (though I think it's fairly implied), and that my rant was more...
I suppose I should say that I know Ryan didn't say we don't understand (though I think it's fairly implied), and that my rant was more pointed at Bowers' dumbass post.
The context of Bowers's post was coming from a athlete who knows how to play and succeed in the game.

Your opinion about Bower's insights might be a reflection of your self.
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Grieby54 wrote:
I suppose I should say that I know Ryan didn't say we don't understand (though I think it's fairly implied), and that my rant was more...
I suppose I should say that I know Ryan didn't say we don't understand (though I think it's fairly implied), and that my rant was more pointed at Bowers' dumbass post.
JACK_Schit wrote:
The context of Bowers's post was coming from a athlete who knows how to play and succeed in the game. Your opinion about Bower's insights might...
The context of Bowers's post was coming from a athlete who knows how to play and succeed in the game.

Your opinion about Bower's insights might be a reflection of your self.
No shit that's where his opinion comes from. Now read the rest of my earlier post.
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Bothers me too. It's not fair to say that he's sacrificed so much and trains so hard therefore he shouldn't be expected to show joy. I...
Bothers me too. It's not fair to say that he's sacrificed so much and trains so hard therefore he shouldn't be expected to show joy. I remember Rick Carbunkle training like a mad dog with the same trainer, but he could show a little emotion and satisfaction after a championship.All the riders train hard and dedicate their lives to this, RV is the only one I see acting so grumpy about it. As a fan of the sport, I'm entitled to not like RV or his attitude for those reasons.
JACK_Schit wrote:
oh brother!
Oh brother what?
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scott_nz wrote:
Tyler Bowers puts it well, [img]http://instagram.com/p/nR2Q_3A9mh/ [/img]
Tyler Bowers puts it well,

Stephon wrote:
This is putting it well? Really? Did Ryan get drafted by the military? Ryan Villopoto is a legend of my favorite sport. No question. Ryan Villopoto...
This is putting it well? Really?

Did Ryan get drafted by the military?

Ryan Villopoto is a legend of my favorite sport. No question. Ryan Villopoto also could have decided to do different things with his life. It seems to me that he chose to try his hand at being a professional motorcycle racer and reached an insanely rare level of success...and he may not be finished achieving.

The things Tyler listed that Ryan gave up were largely by his own choice and it seems that he's been rewarded handsomely. Personally, I really hope he is able to walk away as healthy as possible, but make no mistake, he chose this road...warts and all.

Ryan doesn't owe me a smile or an explanation. I'd bet that he's MUCH more interesting away from spotlight, but maybe not. I'd also bet that he doesn't give a damn what I think.

I cheered Tyler on in Vegas last year at the shoot out, but I disagree with his notion that anyone is "running off the heroes of the sport".
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If RV decided to "do it differently" he would not be a legend in the sport. The reason he has all these titles is because he...
If RV decided to "do it differently" he would not be a legend in the sport.

The reason he has all these titles is because he works harder than anyone for them. He does lead a military style life. Everyday is regulated and scrutinized. If not by himself, it's his team, trainer and fans.

The guy has to have surgery to get any time off. He gets ankle surgery and misses the MXON and the fans call human traitor and a money hungry selfish person.


If he retired tomorrow, I would applaud him and thank him for putting lan great show the last few years.

Yes, he had a "choice" but he chose to be a champion.
Regis, I think you missed my point. Completely.

Did you really just explain to me why RV is a legend? I'm not new to the sport - 30+ years and counting.

I agree that if he decided to "do it differently" he might not be a legend of the sport.
I agree that the reason he's earned the titles he earned might be because he works harder than anyone else.

Ryan Villopoto made an active choice to do what he's doing.

If he retired tomorrow I would also applaud and thank him for the great times. I'm thrilled to have been able to witness his greatness at several different venues across the country.

I'm glad he volunteered to be a pro motocross rider.

P.S. I don't think Tyler is dumb or a bad guy for what he posted; I just disagree.
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RC also retired because he said it was too much pressure and work to race at the pace and level he did...
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4/27/2014 12:55pm Edited Date/Time 4/27/2014 12:55pm
Bottom line...RC came to a point where he'd done it all & won it all...and just didn't need the negative things that a commitment to be at that level brings with it. He had made enough...had a pretty wife, wanted a family & time to enjoy both. He jumped ship while the jumping was good.

I can appreciate RV doing the same thing.
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I honestly don't see what the big deal is here. I agree with what Bowers said....for the most part. I should have been more specific on the point that I don't think the fans are the ones who are chasing him off though. I don't think that has anything to do with it at all. Besides a small group on here that seem to despise him for some reason.....the rest of the world seems to appreciate the guy and what he has achieved.

Bottom line is.....if you don't like him , you don't like him. I don't think he gives a flying crap. And when he does decide to hang his boots up....it'll be on his own accord.
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Grieby54 wrote:
I know that I will never fully understand the level of commitment and sacrifice that being at RV's level takes, and I accept that. But I...
I know that I will never fully understand the level of commitment and sacrifice that being at RV's level takes, and I accept that. But I know that he works hard and, doing something we all pay a lot of money to do as a hobby, has achieved enough financial success to retire at 27 and live a more comfortable life than 99% of the members of this board could ever hope for.

So while I agree with these top level athletes that we will never know what it's like to walk a mile in their shoes, they need to understand that they will never know what it's like to walk a lifetime in our shoes. They will never understand working 50+ hours a week in a cube. Ryan will never truly understand what it's like to struggle to make ends meet and monitor every penny spent so that the lights stay on. He will never understand that real burnout is 40 years in the work force where there is no entourage or fans. I will never own a Ferrari, nor will I ever have the ability to see the world like Ryan will get to. I will never get to retire with so much of my life left to live in such a huge house with a great piece of land.

I consider myself very blessed and I love the life that I live, but I get really tired of hearing these guys talk about how we don't understand how hard the grind is. Yes, they work incredibly hard for 10 - 15 years. But they'll never know what it's like to work incredibly hard in a different way for 40+ years pinching pennies all the way.

/rant
Hey he is only like 25 first off. And next, that's a long time to blow thru that money. God knows we have heard of multi millionaires blow thru their "wads". To say that he will never know what it's like to have to work is a bit premature at best. He has a ton of life left to live. If he's smart and all indications are that he has been smart (with his money) he will be fine. For the most part the percentage's are against him never spending all that money.
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It's a brutal sport and I appreciate his honesty. Perhaps my impression of him was wrong. I like that he is honest that it feels like a job because well it is. There is not a whole lot of joy in it like we get going out on the weekends. However, when they win a championship it probably all seems worth it to them. Another thing about this sport that probably is really difficult to deal with is the injuries and the risks you have to take to be the best. That has to wear on you mentally as well.
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Stephon wrote:
This is putting it well? Really? Did Ryan get drafted by the military? Ryan Villopoto is a legend of my favorite sport. No question. Ryan Villopoto...
This is putting it well? Really?

Did Ryan get drafted by the military?

Ryan Villopoto is a legend of my favorite sport. No question. Ryan Villopoto also could have decided to do different things with his life. It seems to me that he chose to try his hand at being a professional motorcycle racer and reached an insanely rare level of success...and he may not be finished achieving.

The things Tyler listed that Ryan gave up were largely by his own choice and it seems that he's been rewarded handsomely. Personally, I really hope he is able to walk away as healthy as possible, but make no mistake, he chose this road...warts and all.

Ryan doesn't owe me a smile or an explanation. I'd bet that he's MUCH more interesting away from spotlight, but maybe not. I'd also bet that he doesn't give a damn what I think.

I cheered Tyler on in Vegas last year at the shoot out, but I disagree with his notion that anyone is "running off the heroes of the sport".
Well put.
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4/27/2014 1:05pm Edited Date/Time 4/27/2014 1:06pm
Grieby54 wrote:
I know that I will never fully understand the level of commitment and sacrifice that being at RV's level takes, and I accept that. But I...
I know that I will never fully understand the level of commitment and sacrifice that being at RV's level takes, and I accept that. But I know that he works hard and, doing something we all pay a lot of money to do as a hobby, has achieved enough financial success to retire at 27 and live a more comfortable life than 99% of the members of this board could ever hope for.

So while I agree with these top level athletes that we will never know what it's like to walk a mile in their shoes, they need to understand that they will never know what it's like to walk a lifetime in our shoes. They will never understand working 50+ hours a week in a cube. Ryan will never truly understand what it's like to struggle to make ends meet and monitor every penny spent so that the lights stay on. He will never understand that real burnout is 40 years in the work force where there is no entourage or fans. I will never own a Ferrari, nor will I ever have the ability to see the world like Ryan will get to. I will never get to retire with so much of my life left to live in such a huge house with a great piece of land.

I consider myself very blessed and I love the life that I live, but I get really tired of hearing these guys talk about how we don't understand how hard the grind is. Yes, they work incredibly hard for 10 - 15 years. But they'll never know what it's like to work incredibly hard in a different way for 40+ years pinching pennies all the way.

/rant
I hate to agree with you but i do. Ryan comes off as an ungrateful as heck. there are so many riders I respect more because they also bust their ass but just to break even or loose money and they don't whine.
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Grieby54 wrote:
I know that I will never fully understand the level of commitment and sacrifice that being at RV's level takes, and I accept that. But I...
I know that I will never fully understand the level of commitment and sacrifice that being at RV's level takes, and I accept that. But I know that he works hard and, doing something we all pay a lot of money to do as a hobby, has achieved enough financial success to retire at 27 and live a more comfortable life than 99% of the members of this board could ever hope for.

So while I agree with these top level athletes that we will never know what it's like to walk a mile in their shoes, they need to understand that they will never know what it's like to walk a lifetime in our shoes. They will never understand working 50+ hours a week in a cube. Ryan will never truly understand what it's like to struggle to make ends meet and monitor every penny spent so that the lights stay on. He will never understand that real burnout is 40 years in the work force where there is no entourage or fans. I will never own a Ferrari, nor will I ever have the ability to see the world like Ryan will get to. I will never get to retire with so much of my life left to live in such a huge house with a great piece of land.

I consider myself very blessed and I love the life that I live, but I get really tired of hearing these guys talk about how we don't understand how hard the grind is. Yes, they work incredibly hard for 10 - 15 years. But they'll never know what it's like to work incredibly hard in a different way for 40+ years pinching pennies all the way.

/rant
Crash82 wrote:
I hate to agree with you but i do. Ryan comes off as an ungrateful as heck. there are so many riders I respect more because...
I hate to agree with you but i do. Ryan comes off as an ungrateful as heck. there are so many riders I respect more because they also bust their ass but just to break even or loose money and they don't whine.
You've seen RV whine about something......ever?
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4/27/2014 1:20pm Edited Date/Time 4/27/2014 1:49pm
Stephon wrote:
This is putting it well? Really? Did Ryan get drafted by the military? Ryan Villopoto is a legend of my favorite sport. No question. Ryan Villopoto...
This is putting it well? Really?

Did Ryan get drafted by the military?

Ryan Villopoto is a legend of my favorite sport. No question. Ryan Villopoto also could have decided to do different things with his life. It seems to me that he chose to try his hand at being a professional motorcycle racer and reached an insanely rare level of success...and he may not be finished achieving.

The things Tyler listed that Ryan gave up were largely by his own choice and it seems that he's been rewarded handsomely. Personally, I really hope he is able to walk away as healthy as possible, but make no mistake, he chose this road...warts and all.

Ryan doesn't owe me a smile or an explanation. I'd bet that he's MUCH more interesting away from spotlight, but maybe not. I'd also bet that he doesn't give a damn what I think.

I cheered Tyler on in Vegas last year at the shoot out, but I disagree with his notion that anyone is "running off the heroes of the sport".
Regis wrote:
If RV decided to "do it differently" he would not be a legend in the sport. The reason he has all these titles is because he...
If RV decided to "do it differently" he would not be a legend in the sport.

The reason he has all these titles is because he works harder than anyone for them. He does lead a military style life. Everyday is regulated and scrutinized. If not by himself, it's his team, trainer and fans.

The guy has to have surgery to get any time off. He gets ankle surgery and misses the MXON and the fans call human traitor and a money hungry selfish person.


If he retired tomorrow, I would applaud him and thank him for putting lan great show the last few years.

Yes, he had a "choice" but he chose to be a champion.
Stephon wrote:
Regis, I think you missed my point. Completely. Did you really just explain to me why RV is a legend? I'm not new to the sport...
Regis, I think you missed my point. Completely.

Did you really just explain to me why RV is a legend? I'm not new to the sport - 30+ years and counting.

I agree that if he decided to "do it differently" he might not be a legend of the sport.
I agree that the reason he's earned the titles he earned might be because he works harder than anyone else.

Ryan Villopoto made an active choice to do what he's doing.

If he retired tomorrow I would also applaud and thank him for the great times. I'm thrilled to have been able to witness his greatness at several different venues across the country.

I'm glad he volunteered to be a pro motocross rider.

P.S. I don't think Tyler is dumb or a bad guy for what he posted; I just disagree.
Didn't miss your point at all.

Of course, RV made a choice to what he is doing. He could have done it the "average" way and made a decent living or he could have done it the way he needed to do it to be the legend you acknowledged he is with your 30+ years in MX. There is a huge difference and lots of sacrifices between being an average athlete and a elite one.

People don't "volunteer" to be a championship caliber MX/SX rider. that statement right there is disrespectful to what it takes to be not just a pro MX'er but one that will go down as the best the sport has seen. You have to sacrifice a lot of your life to be the best at this sport. Not to mention when you start getting paid you have contractual obligations to be the best. Some people don't take those obligations as serious as others.

Yes, I know it was his choice to race SX and MX. I get what you are saying, Just find it disrespectful to compare it to being "drafted into the military" and implying he didn't have to choose MX/SX.

You are saying, it could always be worse and these guys are living the life they chose. I just have sympathy for someone who made the choice and dedicated himself 100%, no matter what career it is. We all have choices. But you can't be on top in MX and SX and enjoy life like the rest of us. You just can't. Its a lifelong grind, no days off and if you take days off, you just have to make up for them later. If you take days off, you become average. RV is not average.

What Tyler is saying is you can't have it both ways and some people (maybe not you) don't get what it takes to be number 1. They see the money, the gear, the races on the weekend, the fame and just expect the rider to enjoy what they get. They don't see the sacrifices and life long amount of work it took to get there.

All this talk about RV skipping the nationals for a knee injury and all the talk about his surgery last year and missing the MXON, all the heat he is getting and got from those decisions and all that just to take care of himself? The other guy, with 4 SX championships in a row.... Only did SX.

Tyler is merely trying to get people, that may not get it, that being number 1 for so long means sacrifices others don't make and that giving him shit for missing a race or potentially not doing a series or not "acting happy" is lame.
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4/27/2014 2:18pm
Grieby54 wrote:
I know that I will never fully understand the level of commitment and sacrifice that being at RV's level takes, and I accept that. But I...
I know that I will never fully understand the level of commitment and sacrifice that being at RV's level takes, and I accept that. But I know that he works hard and, doing something we all pay a lot of money to do as a hobby, has achieved enough financial success to retire at 27 and live a more comfortable life than 99% of the members of this board could ever hope for.

So while I agree with these top level athletes that we will never know what it's like to walk a mile in their shoes, they need to understand that they will never know what it's like to walk a lifetime in our shoes. They will never understand working 50+ hours a week in a cube. Ryan will never truly understand what it's like to struggle to make ends meet and monitor every penny spent so that the lights stay on. He will never understand that real burnout is 40 years in the work force where there is no entourage or fans. I will never own a Ferrari, nor will I ever have the ability to see the world like Ryan will get to. I will never get to retire with so much of my life left to live in such a huge house with a great piece of land.

I consider myself very blessed and I love the life that I live, but I get really tired of hearing these guys talk about how we don't understand how hard the grind is. Yes, they work incredibly hard for 10 - 15 years. But they'll never know what it's like to work incredibly hard in a different way for 40+ years pinching pennies all the way.

/rant
gharmon wrote:
Hey he is only like 25 first off. And next, that's a long time to blow thru that money. God knows we have heard of multi...
Hey he is only like 25 first off. And next, that's a long time to blow thru that money. God knows we have heard of multi millionaires blow thru their "wads". To say that he will never know what it's like to have to work is a bit premature at best. He has a ton of life left to live. If he's smart and all indications are that he has been smart (with his money) he will be fine. For the most part the percentage's are against him never spending all that money.
I was saying if he rides till he's 27, not that he is 27. Not like that was your point though, haha.

Agreed - he won't be able to live like a total rockstar and never have to work, but he'll certainly get to live a nicer life than I likely ever will all the while not having to work. He's a smart guy, I imagine he'll be able to make his money last.
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4/27/2014 2:19pm
Grieby54 wrote:
I know that I will never fully understand the level of commitment and sacrifice that being at RV's level takes, and I accept that. But I...
I know that I will never fully understand the level of commitment and sacrifice that being at RV's level takes, and I accept that. But I know that he works hard and, doing something we all pay a lot of money to do as a hobby, has achieved enough financial success to retire at 27 and live a more comfortable life than 99% of the members of this board could ever hope for.

So while I agree with these top level athletes that we will never know what it's like to walk a mile in their shoes, they need to understand that they will never know what it's like to walk a lifetime in our shoes. They will never understand working 50+ hours a week in a cube. Ryan will never truly understand what it's like to struggle to make ends meet and monitor every penny spent so that the lights stay on. He will never understand that real burnout is 40 years in the work force where there is no entourage or fans. I will never own a Ferrari, nor will I ever have the ability to see the world like Ryan will get to. I will never get to retire with so much of my life left to live in such a huge house with a great piece of land.

I consider myself very blessed and I love the life that I live, but I get really tired of hearing these guys talk about how we don't understand how hard the grind is. Yes, they work incredibly hard for 10 - 15 years. But they'll never know what it's like to work incredibly hard in a different way for 40+ years pinching pennies all the way.

/rant
Crash82 wrote:
I hate to agree with you but i do. Ryan comes off as an ungrateful as heck. there are so many riders I respect more because...
I hate to agree with you but i do. Ryan comes off as an ungrateful as heck. there are so many riders I respect more because they also bust their ass but just to break even or loose money and they don't whine.
Ryan never whines. Ever. That being said, he certainly doesn't try to act like he's loving every minute of it (not that he needs to).
4/27/2014 2:35pm
Mick Doohan was exactly the same , after he retired he was a different man but on race day he didn`t want to know anyone
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4/27/2014 2:50pm
I seriously dig RV's intensity, motivation, determination in moto. I hope he has fun with it.....

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