1978 Honda CR250 with DG Swingarm & Fox Shox

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I know this is a very common bike, but I had to share. I really admire all the other ones I see out there. I have owned the bike for many years and really only just stored it. The bike is a pretty clean survivor. I bought the bike with the shox but just picked up the swingarm. Been looking for a long time. I also picked up a set of Fox Forx with the Honda clamps& stem. Hopefully I will have them installed in the next month or 2.

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tydog 12/3/2018 3:35pm
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Nice bike and excellent score on the DG arm!! Thanks for sharing the pics and welcome to the red rocket club. Be careful those bikes can be addictive!
mxracer106 12/3/2018 6:24pm
12/3/2018 6:24pm Edited Date/Time 12/3/2018 6:25pm
Nice looking ride Wfoskir! Looks like a very clean survivor. Looking forward to seeing it with the Fox Forx on it! Do you ride/race it all? Do you know the history of it?
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barnett468 12/3/2018 7:37pm
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Yeah, very cool bike. I also remember when those shocks first came out. I wanted some bad but they were expensive.
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wfoskir 12/3/2018 7:43pm
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mxracer106 wrote:
Nice looking ride Wfoskir! Looks like a very clean survivor. Looking forward to seeing it with the Fox Forx on it! Do you ride/race it all...
Nice looking ride Wfoskir! Looks like a very clean survivor. Looking forward to seeing it with the Fox Forx on it! Do you ride/race it all? Do you know the history of it?
I have not raced this bike. I have only road it a few times, very short, like up and down the street kind of thing. I do not know the history of it either. My whole PV thing started with another 78 CR250 that I did a restoration on back in the 90's. At that time I thought I was the only guy in the world working on an old MXer. Went to the local shop bought all my parts not knowing anything may be discontinued. Bought all kinds of parts that where still available at that time too. I have a brand new tank (for this bike) with decals on it, never been on a bike or had gas in it. It was hanging on the wall of the dealer for years. As I would buy parts for my bike, I kept bugging the parts manager about the tank, tying to get him to lower the price. I finally got it!
This bike came along in the early 00's. It was to clean of a bike to pass up, all there (pretty much)! I bought it and later sold the other bike, wish I would have kept it.
I bought and raced YZ's and a Maico. Never wanted to race this bike, trying to save it guess?. I never even worked on it until yesterday. When I get the Fox Forx on it, I will be taking it out to the track for a few laps. However, before that happens I have a 2 other bikes that have to get done first.
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PK97 12/4/2018 8:32am
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Nice original bike, great score on the arm and forks!
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a22 12/4/2018 10:31am
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That looks lovely- pipe looks almost new.
Tokyo_Tiddler 12/5/2018 9:43am
12/5/2018 9:43am
by the way, you can get the dent out of that aluminum tank cleanly and easily with a paint-less dent repair kit. I have one and works great.
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a22 12/5/2018 12:12pm
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Tokyo_Tiddler wrote:
by the way, you can get the dent out of that aluminum tank cleanly and easily with a paint-less dent repair kit. I have one and...
by the way, you can get the dent out of that aluminum tank cleanly and easily with a paint-less dent repair kit. I have one and works great.
Have you a link or more info on this kit?
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wfoskir 12/5/2018 12:24pm
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Tokyo_Tiddler wrote:
by the way, you can get the dent out of that aluminum tank cleanly and easily with a paint-less dent repair kit. I have one and...
by the way, you can get the dent out of that aluminum tank cleanly and easily with a paint-less dent repair kit. I have one and works great.
a22 wrote:
Have you a link or more info on this kit?
I hadn't thought about that dent, but now that you mention it! Yes, what kit are you referring too?
And, thank you.
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barnett468 12/5/2018 7:53pm
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Tokyo_Tiddler wrote:
by the way, you can get the dent out of that aluminum tank cleanly and easily with a paint-less dent repair kit. I have one and...
by the way, you can get the dent out of that aluminum tank cleanly and easily with a paint-less dent repair kit. I have one and works great.
a22 wrote:
Have you a link or more info on this kit?
wfoskir wrote:
I hadn't thought about that dent, but now that you mention it! Yes, what kit are you referring too?
And, thank you.
you need to have a lot of experience to get dents out so you can barely tell they were there with paintless dent tools. there is absolutely no way it is easy to remove them so they are undetectable. if you google paintless dent removal you might find someone in your area that does it but it still may not look perfect. many auto body shops also use paintless dent specialists so you might also as them for some references if you want to go that way.

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Tokyo_Tiddler 12/6/2018 12:01am
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a22 wrote:
Have you a link or more info on this kit?
wfoskir wrote:
I hadn't thought about that dent, but now that you mention it! Yes, what kit are you referring too?
And, thank you.
barnett468 wrote:
you need to have a lot of experience to get dents out so you can barely tell they were there with paintless dent tools. there is...
you need to have a lot of experience to get dents out so you can barely tell they were there with paintless dent tools. there is absolutely no way it is easy to remove them so they are undetectable. if you google paintless dent removal you might find someone in your area that does it but it still may not look perfect. many auto body shops also use paintless dent specialists so you might also as them for some references if you want to go that way.

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I am sorry, but I beg to differ with you. I have no experience whatsoever with dent pulling and I have pulled dozens of dents with this kit. most all perfectly all such they can are completely undetectable or nearly perfect. It depends on the dent and the biggest risk is pulling the dent out too far. If you are careful and use common sense, most rounded dents with no sharp edges or gouges pop out such they can no longer be seen or felt.

I don't know if you have any direct experience with this technique, and I can only go by my own direct experience, but I don't think your comment is correct at all.

The technique is pure genius. You heat some glue with a glue gun, select the right size and shape puller tab, put the hot glue on the tab and apply to the dent, use the puller tool and gently pull up until the dent either pops or the metal is at the right height. They you remove the puller and pour a little isopropyl alcohol on the tab stuck to the metal which causes the glue to instantly release. Done in 5 minutes!

The more techniques you learn, the quicker and the better you can pull various dents, but you would have to be a total half-wit not to be able to remove most small dents perfectly... and almost all at least nearly undetectable.

I believe your comment "there is absolutely no way it is easy to remove them so they are undetectable" is very much misguiding the OP.

Here is an example of a typical kit like I bought on ebay....
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Full-Paintless-Dent-Repair-Puller-Lifter-PDR-T…

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barnett468 12/6/2018 8:00am
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wfoskir wrote:
I hadn't thought about that dent, but now that you mention it! Yes, what kit are you referring too?
And, thank you.
barnett468 wrote:
you need to have a lot of experience to get dents out so you can barely tell they were there with paintless dent tools. there is...
you need to have a lot of experience to get dents out so you can barely tell they were there with paintless dent tools. there is absolutely no way it is easy to remove them so they are undetectable. if you google paintless dent removal you might find someone in your area that does it but it still may not look perfect. many auto body shops also use paintless dent specialists so you might also as them for some references if you want to go that way.

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Tokyo_Tiddler wrote:
I am sorry, but I beg to differ with you. I have no experience whatsoever with dent pulling and I have pulled dozens of dents with...
I am sorry, but I beg to differ with you. I have no experience whatsoever with dent pulling and I have pulled dozens of dents with this kit. most all perfectly all such they can are completely undetectable or nearly perfect. It depends on the dent and the biggest risk is pulling the dent out too far. If you are careful and use common sense, most rounded dents with no sharp edges or gouges pop out such they can no longer be seen or felt.

I don't know if you have any direct experience with this technique, and I can only go by my own direct experience, but I don't think your comment is correct at all.

The technique is pure genius. You heat some glue with a glue gun, select the right size and shape puller tab, put the hot glue on the tab and apply to the dent, use the puller tool and gently pull up until the dent either pops or the metal is at the right height. They you remove the puller and pour a little isopropyl alcohol on the tab stuck to the metal which causes the glue to instantly release. Done in 5 minutes!

The more techniques you learn, the quicker and the better you can pull various dents, but you would have to be a total half-wit not to be able to remove most small dents perfectly... and almost all at least nearly undetectable.

I believe your comment "there is absolutely no way it is easy to remove them so they are undetectable" is very much misguiding the OP.

Here is an example of a typical kit like I bought on ebay....
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Full-Paintless-Dent-Repair-Puller-Lifter-PDR-T…

"I believe your comment "there is absolutely no way it is easy to remove them so they are undetectable" is very much misguiding the OP."

And I believe it is your comment that is "misguiding" the op to some degree, which is why I made the comment I did. I am not saying that your suggestion for the op to try to remove the dent by themself with a paintless dent removal kit is "bad", it is just misleading to some degree to try and make them believe it is "easy" to get the dent out so it is undetectable. What is undetectable to one person is sometimes still detectable to another

"nearly perfect."

"nearly perfect" is not "perfect", therefore, if the op is not able to get the dent out to their level of satisfaction, they will have to have someone else do it anyway, which might include the use of body filler, and this is after the op just spent $177.89 on the kit you suggested which is likely less then it would cost them to pay someone else to remove it, and remove it to a point where it really is undetectable by anyone that looks at it.


"The more techniques you learn, the quicker and the better you can pull various dents"

This statement is accurate and somewhat contradicts your previous statements about it being "easy" to remove dents and "perfectly". Everything I can think of, including walking, is an acquired skill and their is a learning "curve".


"I don't know if you have any direct experience with this technique,"

I do have knowledge of this kit and the other type of paintless dent removal tools. I repaired and restored vintage muscle cars for 45 years, and have done Concours type restorations on some of them, and some of the cars I restored sold for world record prices at Barrett Jackson. During this time I have done some paint and body work (dent removal etc) myself, however, there are others that are far more skilled at it then I am so I had them do the majority of it so I could also work on other things while most of the body repair was being done. Anyway, thru this process, I have worked with several different paintless dent removal specialists that had several years of experience, and some were better than others, but not a single one of them could remove a dent to the point where it was 100% undetectable to my eye. This is not to say that that the remainder of the dent was still blatantly obvious or unacceptable, and in the majority of the cases, it was acceptable for my goal, however, it was still not "perfect".




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Sprew 12/6/2018 8:25am
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Only the customer can use the “P” word.
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Tokyo_Tiddler 12/6/2018 9:39am
12/6/2018 9:39am Edited Date/Time 1/12/2019 7:44pm
Barnett468.. I am not contradicting myself.. I was able to remove my first dent undetectably first try.. success rate is very high for a smaller rounded type dent.. I am only saying the success rate (on an already high success rate) gets higher. So I guess in your opinion, I am an exception to use such a kit so easily. I have 5 cars and the kit all the time to pop out small parking lot dents of my cars and friends, so the kits sees lots of use of a home garage mechanic. Only major risk is pulling the dent too high, so that is why you start with the smaller pulling tabs and work your way up.

I don't think you intentionally misguided the OP, but I think you may have if I can do it so many times successfully with no real auto body experience while you are pretty much saying it is not possible. As you said "not a single one" which is quite pessimistic. There are no guarantees in life that every situation will work out perfectly, but my success rate had been quite high.. one the best home tools I have bought and had paid for itself many times over.

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wfoskir 1/12/2019 6:04pm
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I just got the Fox Forx installed not 100% done but thought I would share a pic

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