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How many points was he down last week?
That would be the best definition for it currently
It's a very thought provoking comparison, actually. With a quick count, it took Jmart 22 races to get 3 wins. You would need to see what the average finsh for them is through those races for a better comparison. There was some rough races for Jeremy in those 22. Haiden is for sure the better SX rider, thus the 2.0 tag.
Sure. I'm just saying they didn't hold him up after a bad start. He just had to make a pass on 3 guys the entire main event. So it's not like he was clearly the fastest but didn't win because he had a bad start and couldn't move forward
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I do think it's still early to really label Deegan. My last post was a bit tongue in cheek because I think people way over-reacted to the hype coming into this year. His results are not dominant in SX. But his outdoor speed, SMX results and everything else (hype etc), does sort of give the impression that he would run away with this West title. I think he has the speed, it's just a matter of maintaining his composure if he gets a bad start or makes a mistake. It felt like he was really pushing the edge in the whoops, to catch his teammates. Things like that, if he gets it in check, he will be fine.
Yep math is hard. And who cares, we can all interpret things differently but too many people caught up in the absolute fact. Fact here is, Deegan isn’t out of this championship!
Obviously he can win outright, but when is the last time that a Supercross rider in his second season one 9/10 races in a season or ever? I'd be surprised if anyone, Haiden included, won outright. IMO, the riders in the 250 class just aren't mature enough to maintain their composure throughout the entire Supercross season as it requires a 100% hit rate (as there is only one main event as compared to MX), thus you can't make it back if you had a weirdo ride.
What I'm more-so trying to say is that there is lots of racing left if Haiden Deegan wants to win this title and show the 250 Class that he is the guy to beat in Supercross.
I still think he wins this title with his championship experience.
winning outright doesnt mean winning every race. it means winning when your top competitors get a good start and you beat them straight up.
Observing cognitive dissonance in real time with these rationalizations
James Stewart only lost one race in his second season and Ricky Carmichael lost zero in his second season. It has been done…unless I totally misread your post
Deegan is further behind the points leader this week than last 🤣 do yourself a favor and stop digging that hole
Lol, no you cannot interpret math differently 😂 math is fact and the FACT is that Deegan is further behind the points leader after this weekend
Yep, I wasn’t implying that JuJu was going to “win out” but I think he can win again. Would agree with others that Deegs is still the favorite, especially now that Jo is hurt, but I wouldn’t count JuJu out. He doesn’t seem to ride over his head and he’s fast, not getting lucky like TV did last year. And if there aren’t team orders, Cole can also rob points from Deegs making this championship harder than expected
I know deegan is the favorite son of Star but there shouldn't be team orders unless its tight going into the last few rounds.
I'm not worried about it. He crashed, still podiumed, and had fastest lap. He needs starts and wins will be there.
I would say A2 is more critical for him to win in that if Julian wins again, Deegan would be in not only a significant points deficit, but Julian's confidence would be at an all-time high. Deegan needs to stop that if he wants the title. As theybsay, when the gate drops, the bs stops.
Julian is an amazing talent and deserved the win, so congratulations to him, his team and Davi for the work they put in.
Only keyboard yappers like you (and several others) got big mouths when Haiden loses. Glad I'm not so bitter about another racer that has absolutely zero impact in my day-to-day life.
My shovel handle broke and I was going to ask to use yours actually. Let’s revisit this conversation after A2 shall we?
Sounds like the kid is a victim of common core.
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Damn good thing he skipped MXoN so he had plenty of time to get ready…
or Terrance Howard 😆
Love how everyone is taking my comment out of context, when I said he’s closer than he was last week, it was not a comment about points, it was a comment that he is now closer than he was last week, literally. 5th to 4th in points, that’s closer. I never “did math”, I said he was 10 points down (truth), clearly Juju gained more points (no shit). makes me chuckle…
I like Deegan’s riding so far. He is keeping his cool and just riding what the race is giving him. Not throwing it away or getting injured from pushing so hard to get first.
Closer to what? The points leader? Because again… No, he’s not.
I’m drunk ok?
I’m not sure I’ve ever read such tripe on here.
Hate to break it to you bud, but if your “best’ guy loses, he’s not the best guy.
This thread is actually a compliment…when a last to 5th is followed up with a work up to 3rd and the only thread about you is “does he suck at supercross?”
He expects to win and the fans expect him to win. Tough standard to meet all the time
Did you not read my comment? 5th to 4th in points, I’m cutting hairs here, he still moved up. Who cares if he went down by 2 points he went up 1 spot…literally splitting hairs with you guys it’s fun
LMFAO! You're alright brother
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