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nobodies really mentioned it but he could play a HUGE role in helping Cameron win the title.

I had a dream, "Let Cam Bye!".

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Strategy to fake an injury is deemed acceptable by fans?!?  Yeah- NO!!  that’s why most motocross fans laugh at stick and ball sports and all the...

Strategy to fake an injury is deemed acceptable by fans?!?  Yeah- NO!!

Laughing that’s why most motocross fans laugh at stick and ball sports and all the over paid entitled “Athlete's”   IMHO

and I bet Sexton could fake playing a quarter of a soccer game a hell of lot better than any soccer player could fake moto, and I’ll put Sextons VO2 or any other physical metric against ANY athlete and I’m sure he’d hold his own 

I don't play any stick and ball sports but I bet them pro soccer athletes have us covered on cardio easy. 

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That's why I said "Hold his own"  No disrespect to soccer players, or any ball player but I bet most pro MXers could jump on a...

That's why I said "Hold his own"  No disrespect to soccer players, or any ball player but I bet most pro MXers could jump on a soccer or any ball field and play well enough to look like they may have been a poor recruit that maybe needs a little practice.  Most pro athletes would look like Brandons first race on even an arenacross track.

The entire comparison is apples to bulldozers. If you took the best pro motocrosser and put him on the field with the worst player on my son's D1 college soccer team, the MX'er would look just as inexperienced as the soccer player would on a motocross bike. The only thing they have in common is that they're both elite level athletes.

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Wild to think that in 2019, Forkner won the first several SX races and seemed poised to be moving to the 450 in the very near future. I believe that was his third year on the 250. Sexton would win that championship, and the next, and moved to the 450 in 2021. We are now 5 years later and Forkner is in his 8th year pro. Not looking like we will see him on a 450 before his 10th pro season.

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TKLEVEN wrote:

nobodies really mentioned it but he could play a HUGE role in helping Cameron win the title.

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I had a dream, "Let Cam Bye!".

Seth can still podium ahead of first turn crashing Deegan.

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Wild to think that in 2019, Forkner won the first several SX races and seemed poised to be moving to the 450 in the very near...

Wild to think that in 2019, Forkner won the first several SX races and seemed poised to be moving to the 450 in the very near future. I believe that was his third year on the 250. Sexton would win that championship, and the next, and moved to the 450 in 2021. We are now 5 years later and Forkner is in his 8th year pro. Not looking like we will see him on a 450 before his 10th pro season.

That’s no different than RJ Horizon in his 10th 250 season or Smitty too.  Lots of guys got lost in 250 land with injuries or results.

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His mind is injured.  Can he physically come back in 8 weeks?  Yes i guess.  Will he be the same,  I doubt it.  But he is a tough dude.  I hope he does.  

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Seth can still podium ahead of first turn crashing Deegan.

Pretty sure Vialle is the most legitimate threat to Mcadoo.

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Seth can still podium ahead of first turn crashing Deegan.

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Pretty sure Vialle is the most legitimate threat to Mcadoo.

The nice thing about Vialle and why we don’t roast him in here is because he doesn’t come off as a threat, make desperate moves, or have a camera follow him around to intimidate or injure other riders.

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His mind is injured.  Can he physically come back in 8 weeks?  Yes i guess.  Will he be the same,  I doubt it.  But he is...

His mind is injured.  Can he physically come back in 8 weeks?  Yes i guess.  Will he be the same,  I doubt it.  But he is a tough dude.  I hope he does.  

He's been hurt a bunch, and recovered so its hard to say.  A week in recovery vs a month is huge mentally.

 

He was my pick to win the east, and until that moment he was quite clearly the best guy.  Also, he seems to keep that speed after being hurt in the past.

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I have said it before but he is the only rider that has what it takes to beat Jett head to head IMO. Both Phenoms, hope...

I have said it before but he is the only rider that has what it takes to beat Jett head to head IMO. Both Phenoms, hope he gets a chance.

That’s the dumbest take I’ve ever seen. Blokes won 1 outdoor race 8 years ago and a bunch of regional SX races and has exited 99% of series injured. He’s not in the same postcode as Jett and never will be. smh

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I have said it before but he is the only rider that has what it takes to beat Jett head to head IMO. Both Phenoms, hope...

I have said it before but he is the only rider that has what it takes to beat Jett head to head IMO. Both Phenoms, hope he gets a chance.

That’s the dumbest take I’ve ever seen. Blokes won 1 outdoor race 8 years ago and a bunch of regional SX races and has exited 99%...

That’s the dumbest take I’ve ever seen. Blokes won 1 outdoor race 8 years ago and a bunch of regional SX races and has exited 99% of series injured. He’s not in the same postcode as Jett and never will be. smh

Of course its speculation, but he's probably going by watching him ride, and how that style would transition to a 450.

 

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That’s the dumbest take I’ve ever seen. Blokes won 1 outdoor race 8 years ago and a bunch of regional SX races and has exited 99%...

That’s the dumbest take I’ve ever seen. Blokes won 1 outdoor race 8 years ago and a bunch of regional SX races and has exited 99% of series injured. He’s not in the same postcode as Jett and never will be. smh

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Of course its speculation, but he's probably going by watching him ride, and how that style would transition to a 450.

 

It has zero to do with a 450 and all about Austin. I am actually not sure about him on a 450 because he talked about weakness in his arm.

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It has zero to do with a 450 and all about Austin. I am actually not sure about him on a 450 because he talked about...

It has zero to do with a 450 and all about Austin. I am actually not sure about him on a 450 because he talked about weakness in his arm.

Fair enough,

 

I'd say from all the footage I've seen, his style lends itself to the 450.

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It has zero to do with a 450 and all about Austin. I am actually not sure about him on a 450 because he talked about...

It has zero to do with a 450 and all about Austin. I am actually not sure about him on a 450 because he talked about weakness in his arm.

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Fair enough,

 

I'd say from all the footage I've seen, his style lends itself to the 450.

DV had a pretty interesting take on his crash through his YT channel. Kinda makes sense about a lot of his crashes. 
 

Hope he can figure it out and get some momentum going. Much be crazy hard mentally and physically. 

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It has zero to do with a 450 and all about Austin. I am actually not sure about him on a 450 because he talked about...

It has zero to do with a 450 and all about Austin. I am actually not sure about him on a 450 because he talked about weakness in his arm.

Flatliner wrote:

Fair enough,

 

I'd say from all the footage I've seen, his style lends itself to the 450.

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DV had a pretty interesting take on his crash through his YT channel. Kinda makes sense about a lot of his crashes.    Hope he can...

DV had a pretty interesting take on his crash through his YT channel. Kinda makes sense about a lot of his crashes. 
 

Hope he can figure it out and get some momentum going. Much be crazy hard mentally and physically. 

DV Vuillemin?  Forkner said he had a weak left shoulder.

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There were so many warning signs leading up to Forkner's wreck. RC's comments a couple minutes before were spot-on (sorry, haters). That race was pretty much a summary of Forkners's career (all respect to his abilities and drive to win).

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There were so many warning signs leading up to Forkner's wreck. RC's comments a couple minutes before were spot-on (sorry, haters). That race was pretty much...

There were so many warning signs leading up to Forkner's wreck. RC's comments a couple minutes before were spot-on (sorry, haters). That race was pretty much a summary of Forkners's career (all respect to his abilities and drive to win).

There’s a lot they missed.  What about JT explaining the same jump and how other people crashed all day or Austin saying his contact lens came out?  It was only inches and Cameron almost crashed exactly the same way earlier in the races.  Forkner had a lot of bad luck and we got to give him a break if other people crash.  He just happens to get hurt worse which means bad luck or he’s going for it more not that he always loses concentration.  Chase switched bikes and stopped making what RC blamed him as mistakes and now it’s over.  Once we give Forkner a few races chance he won’t be a crasher anymore either.

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There were so many warning signs leading up to Forkner's wreck. RC's comments a couple minutes before were spot-on (sorry, haters). That race was pretty much...

There were so many warning signs leading up to Forkner's wreck. RC's comments a couple minutes before were spot-on (sorry, haters). That race was pretty much a summary of Forkners's career (all respect to his abilities and drive to win).

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There’s a lot they missed.  What about JT explaining the same jump and how other people crashed all day or Austin saying his contact lens came...

There’s a lot they missed.  What about JT explaining the same jump and how other people crashed all day or Austin saying his contact lens came out?  It was only inches and Cameron almost crashed exactly the same way earlier in the races.  Forkner had a lot of bad luck and we got to give him a break if other people crash.  He just happens to get hurt worse which means bad luck or he’s going for it more not that he always loses concentration.  Chase switched bikes and stopped making what RC blamed him as mistakes and now it’s over.  Once we give Forkner a few races chance he won’t be a crasher anymore either.

Forkner has had plenty of chances to not crash. From my armchair quarterback position he started pushing harder with the pressure from Deegan and then ended up flying off the bike. It was a bad spot but he had the worst possible outcome and that seems to happen a lot with him. That was such an awful hit and I'm glad he walked away. But the signs were there as he was starting to look like his timing was going away as he felt the pressure.

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Moto Nomad wrote:
There were so many warning signs leading up to Forkner's wreck. RC's comments a couple minutes before were spot-on (sorry, haters). That race was pretty much...

There were so many warning signs leading up to Forkner's wreck. RC's comments a couple minutes before were spot-on (sorry, haters). That race was pretty much a summary of Forkners's career (all respect to his abilities and drive to win).

Moto Braap wrote:
There’s a lot they missed.  What about JT explaining the same jump and how other people crashed all day or Austin saying his contact lens came...

There’s a lot they missed.  What about JT explaining the same jump and how other people crashed all day or Austin saying his contact lens came out?  It was only inches and Cameron almost crashed exactly the same way earlier in the races.  Forkner had a lot of bad luck and we got to give him a break if other people crash.  He just happens to get hurt worse which means bad luck or he’s going for it more not that he always loses concentration.  Chase switched bikes and stopped making what RC blamed him as mistakes and now it’s over.  Once we give Forkner a few races chance he won’t be a crasher anymore either.

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Forkner has had plenty of chances to not crash. From my armchair quarterback position he started pushing harder with the pressure from Deegan and then ended...

Forkner has had plenty of chances to not crash. From my armchair quarterback position he started pushing harder with the pressure from Deegan and then ended up flying off the bike. It was a bad spot but he had the worst possible outcome and that seems to happen a lot with him. That was such an awful hit and I'm glad he walked away. But the signs were there as he was starting to look like his timing was going away as he felt the pressure.

Deegan has enough talent where he doesn’t need any extra help like ramming into Forkner in the heat race.  I’d be looking over my shoulder too and going a little faster waiting for an assassin who is over-revving behind me that already tried taking me out once and then went after my teammates and others in the following weeks.  Pressure is one thing but trying to avoid being taken out is another.

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Fair enough,

 

I'd say from all the footage I've seen, his style lends itself to the 450.

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DV had a pretty interesting take on his crash through his YT channel. Kinda makes sense about a lot of his crashes.    Hope he can...

DV had a pretty interesting take on his crash through his YT channel. Kinda makes sense about a lot of his crashes. 
 

Hope he can figure it out and get some momentum going. Much be crazy hard mentally and physically. 

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DV Vuillemin?  Forkner said he had a weak left shoulder.

Just about how you look at his posture, no fingers on leavers, semi relaxed, committed to the next jump. A rider knows when they are going to come up short, and on a sketchy jump like that, you know it’s going to be a hard case, yet he isn’t bracing for it, just ready to gas into the next face.
 

I guess he’s saying he should be prepared for a heavy case, brakes/clutch ready - the track is out to get you, you should always be ready (his words). 
 

Makes good sense. I recommend watching. Coming from the biking world, you know leaving the lip if you are going to make the jump or not, and brace for a hard case, and you know if you have enough pump to make the next jump or not. Fortunately in the bike world, jumps aren’t necessarily that big, and decisions can be made with much more time than supercross. 
 

just thought it was an interesting perspective, compared to the bad luck narrative. Sucks either way for Austin. 

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DV had a pretty interesting take on his crash through his YT channel. Kinda makes sense about a lot of his crashes.    Hope he can...

DV had a pretty interesting take on his crash through his YT channel. Kinda makes sense about a lot of his crashes. 
 

Hope he can figure it out and get some momentum going. Much be crazy hard mentally and physically. 

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DV Vuillemin?  Forkner said he had a weak left shoulder.

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Just about how you look at his posture, no fingers on leavers, semi relaxed, committed to the next jump. A rider knows when they are going...

Just about how you look at his posture, no fingers on leavers, semi relaxed, committed to the next jump. A rider knows when they are going to come up short, and on a sketchy jump like that, you know it’s going to be a hard case, yet he isn’t bracing for it, just ready to gas into the next face.
 

I guess he’s saying he should be prepared for a heavy case, brakes/clutch ready - the track is out to get you, you should always be ready (his words). 
 

Makes good sense. I recommend watching. Coming from the biking world, you know leaving the lip if you are going to make the jump or not, and brace for a hard case, and you know if you have enough pump to make the next jump or not. Fortunately in the bike world, jumps aren’t necessarily that big, and decisions can be made with much more time than supercross. 
 

just thought it was an interesting perspective, compared to the bad luck narrative. Sucks either way for Austin. 

I didn’t notice any handlebar activity in the crash but I just saw the Baileys explaining how you should always have your finger on at least the clutch just in case that riders like Jett now do to give credit to him.  If there is a way to anticipate that usually prevents so I agree.  Somewhere DV said he had the chance to work with Austin but decided not to unstated.  Here is the Baileys on why Jett is so good and makes it look easy:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2198&v=G42nnXOVbAk&embeds_ref…

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There were so many warning signs leading up to Forkner's wreck. RC's comments a couple minutes before were spot-on (sorry, haters). That race was pretty much...

There were so many warning signs leading up to Forkner's wreck. RC's comments a couple minutes before were spot-on (sorry, haters). That race was pretty much a summary of Forkners's career (all respect to his abilities and drive to win).

go ahead and rewatch that race. He looked in control the entire race. I honestly thought he was just managing up until the crash

usually when riders override their getting sketchy every lap. Austin looked great that whole race.
 

 

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Moto Nomad wrote:
There were so many warning signs leading up to Forkner's wreck. RC's comments a couple minutes before were spot-on (sorry, haters). That race was pretty much...

There were so many warning signs leading up to Forkner's wreck. RC's comments a couple minutes before were spot-on (sorry, haters). That race was pretty much a summary of Forkners's career (all respect to his abilities and drive to win).

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go ahead and rewatch that race. He looked in control the entire race. I honestly thought he was just managing up until the crash usually when...

go ahead and rewatch that race. He looked in control the entire race. I honestly thought he was just managing up until the crash

usually when riders override their getting sketchy every lap. Austin looked great that whole race.
 

 

In practice they showed some good footage and how fast Forkner was going on a tight track with different camera angles and I think he was one of the top qualifiers. He looked in control and aware of the obstacles.  Things can change by the main and anyone can crash at any time so I am surprised people aren’t letting him use the excuse that his contact lens came out.

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if the fractures were non-displaced enough to not require any surgery, I don't see why they would take longer than the 4 weeks it takes any other fracture to heal. 

if he does come back, I bet dirt worx puts a little dirt on the edge of the track for him  . . 

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Moto Nomad wrote:
There were so many warning signs leading up to Forkner's wreck. RC's comments a couple minutes before were spot-on (sorry, haters). That race was pretty much...

There were so many warning signs leading up to Forkner's wreck. RC's comments a couple minutes before were spot-on (sorry, haters). That race was pretty much a summary of Forkners's career (all respect to his abilities and drive to win).

TKLEVEN wrote:
go ahead and rewatch that race. He looked in control the entire race. I honestly thought he was just managing up until the crash usually when...

go ahead and rewatch that race. He looked in control the entire race. I honestly thought he was just managing up until the crash

usually when riders override their getting sketchy every lap. Austin looked great that whole race.
 

 

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In practice they showed some good footage and how fast Forkner was going on a tight track with different camera angles and I think he was...

In practice they showed some good footage and how fast Forkner was going on a tight track with different camera angles and I think he was one of the top qualifiers. He looked in control and aware of the obstacles.  Things can change by the main and anyone can crash at any time so I am surprised people aren’t letting him use the excuse that his contact lens came out.

excuse? You can very obviously see his times drop around lap 9

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excuse? You can very obviously see his times drop around lap 9

Forkners are good old country folk. They aint liars and they don't make excuses. Shame on anyone who thinks that was a pre-canned excuse for his next crash

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go ahead and rewatch that race. He looked in control the entire race. I honestly thought he was just managing up until the crash usually when...

go ahead and rewatch that race. He looked in control the entire race. I honestly thought he was just managing up until the crash

usually when riders override their getting sketchy every lap. Austin looked great that whole race.
 

 

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In practice they showed some good footage and how fast Forkner was going on a tight track with different camera angles and I think he was...

In practice they showed some good footage and how fast Forkner was going on a tight track with different camera angles and I think he was one of the top qualifiers. He looked in control and aware of the obstacles.  Things can change by the main and anyone can crash at any time so I am surprised people aren’t letting him use the excuse that his contact lens came out.

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excuse? You can very obviously see his times drop around lap 9

If his times all the sudden dropped something must have gone wrong.  He is not in the habit of making excuses and didn’t blame Jett for cross jumping him thinking it was due to the tuff blocks as announced and proposed.

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