Sexton to Baker's Factory??

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Nobody is making anything into anything.  I just thought it was interesting that Sexton had his own deal with training and riding and now that is...

Nobody is making anything into anything.  I just thought it was interesting that Sexton had his own deal with training and riding and now that is changed.  I don't buy it only changed to save in shipping cost.

‘I don’t buy it was for…’ ‘he had to go to Baker’s cause he’s only won once this year’

thats you making it into something it isn’t. The only thing that’s changed is where sextons practice bikes are. He can ride at aldons. He can ride at sandbox or where ever the hell else he wants too.  He’s still posting gym workouts that aren’t at baker’s 

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I think KTM told them to leave.......because the performance is not where it needs to be

Money wrote:

I believe this because of Ktm’s egos of the bosses in charge there. They don’t believe in anything but the Aldon program. 
 

MMM maybe there's kickbacks involved for some of those bosses when a rider goes to the Baker program.

After how much money ktm has put into that facility for Aldon and the amount they pay him for a retainer fee so no other team gets him is crazy. So I wouldn’t be surprised someone is getting a kick back. 

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The guys at Sandbox made it sound like Chase and Vialle did not have an option. 

I know Kenny like riding with Chase at Sandbox. They have a pretty good crew there.

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This makes a lot of sense if the move is mostly logistical. Sexton has, in the past, credited his musculature for his ability to avoid injury...

This makes a lot of sense if the move is mostly logistical.

Sexton has, in the past, credited his musculature for his ability to avoid injury from his crashes. Hard to see him buying in to Aldon's "lean and mean," philosophy after only 6 races. 

Zycki11 wrote:
Yeah one would think someone like AP would actually benefit more from say Peter Parks methods of training. Also, I remember Reedy worked with Peter Park...

Yeah one would think someone like AP would actually benefit more from say Peter Parks methods of training. Also, I remember Reedy worked with Peter Park a long time ago and mentioned he was very muscle based and that he didn’t need that type of training due to his body type. 

Money wrote:
Didn’t reed have some of his best years when he was with Peter? Them years on the Honda 22 was he not with Peter at that...

Didn’t reed have some of his best years when he was with Peter? Them years on the Honda 22 was he not with Peter at that time?

I believe that is the time frame yes, also remember Chad and Ellie talking about him back in 05'ish and being skinnier and if that was better or not. Just fun speculation in the end but in my opinion Sextons body type is beneficial to the heavy hits etc that our sport gives out. 

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2/19/2024 8:49am
DonM wrote:

The better question is why did Sexton and Vialle both leave Moto Sandbox...

I think KTM told them to leave.......because the performance is not where it needs to be

soggy wrote:

Vialle has raced once this year and sexton is well in the hunt for the championship. Your just talking nonsense. 

Exactly. Plus, Sexton has been dealt with a messed-up hand before Glendale and performed well considering and Vialle is riding great. Comments like the one that guy made really makes you wonder if he and others are just trying to be a turd or are they that clueless. 

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2/19/2024 8:52am
soggy wrote:

He’s not training with Aldon he’s just riding there. Let’s not make this into something it’s not. 

Well that's just not Vital worthy.

Nobody is making anything into anything.  I just thought it was interesting that Sexton had his own deal with training and riding and now that is...

Nobody is making anything into anything.  I just thought it was interesting that Sexton had his own deal with training and riding and now that is changed.  I don't buy it only changed to save in shipping cost.

Dude, you are really overreaching here. I get being devil's advocate on a forum to be cool and all. But good grief. 

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2/19/2024 8:57am
I have lost faith in Aldons' program. Lawrences, Sexton, Tomac, Ferrandis etc all have done well without it. Who is the most recent champ from Baker's...

I have lost faith in Aldons' program. Lawrences, Sexton, Tomac, Ferrandis etc all have done well without it. Who is the most recent champ from Baker's Factory? Dunge? 

9bro9 wrote:

zach O

Yz450fkid wrote:

Are we forgetting Webb's 2 championships.

Anderson also won since dunge.

Forget titles, Webb hasn’t even won a 450 main without Aldon as his trainer

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9bro9 wrote:

zach O

Yz450fkid wrote:

Are we forgetting Webb's 2 championships.

Anderson also won since dunge.

Forget titles, Webb hasn’t even won a 450 main without Aldon as his trainer

He won A2

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Aldon, turning Campions into Champions and taking credit for it since 2005

Not this shit again.

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I have lost faith in Aldons' program. Lawrences, Sexton, Tomac, Ferrandis etc all have done well without it. Who is the most recent champ from Baker's...

I have lost faith in Aldons' program. Lawrences, Sexton, Tomac, Ferrandis etc all have done well without it. Who is the most recent champ from Baker's Factory? Dunge? 

Absolutely nothing wrong with Aldons program, he just got too much credit for what the riders did. 
 

 If he had Jett, the mystique would still be there. 
 

 

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Aldon, turning Campions into Champions and taking credit for it since 2005

Flatliner wrote:

Not this shit again.

Truth hurts. 

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Well that's just not Vital worthy.

Nobody is making anything into anything.  I just thought it was interesting that Sexton had his own deal with training and riding and now that is...

Nobody is making anything into anything.  I just thought it was interesting that Sexton had his own deal with training and riding and now that is changed.  I don't buy it only changed to save in shipping cost.

Dude, you are really overreaching here. I get being devil's advocate on a forum to be cool and all. But good grief. 

What am I overreaching about?  You don't think it's news that one of the best riders on the planet who just joined a new team changed his primary riding facility mid season?  So if Eli all of the sudden moved to Club MX that's not worthy to talk about?  

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Nobody is making anything into anything.  I just thought it was interesting that Sexton had his own deal with training and riding and now that is...

Nobody is making anything into anything.  I just thought it was interesting that Sexton had his own deal with training and riding and now that is changed.  I don't buy it only changed to save in shipping cost.

Dude, you are really overreaching here. I get being devil's advocate on a forum to be cool and all. But good grief. 

What am I overreaching about?  You don't think it's news that one of the best riders on the planet who just joined a new team changed...

What am I overreaching about?  You don't think it's news that one of the best riders on the planet who just joined a new team changed his primary riding facility mid season?  So if Eli all of the sudden moved to Club MX that's not worthy to talk about?  

possibly your claim that it's because of results....that can be considered an overreach...

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Maybe Peter Park is just too busy training Ellen Degeneres.

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I have lost faith in Aldons' program. Lawrences, Sexton, Tomac, Ferrandis etc all have done well without it. Who is the most recent champ from Baker's...

I have lost faith in Aldons' program. Lawrences, Sexton, Tomac, Ferrandis etc all have done well without it. Who is the most recent champ from Baker's Factory? Dunge? 

UpTiTe wrote:
Absolutely nothing wrong with Aldons program, he just got too much credit for what the riders did.     If he had Jett, the mystique would still...

Absolutely nothing wrong with Aldons program, he just got too much credit for what the riders did. 
 

 If he had Jett, the mystique would still be there. 
 

 

Nothing wrong if you're already fast as hell and you have your bike setup figured out.

 

Everything wrong if you need to test and actually want to improve technique instead of just pounding motos/miles on the bike/hours in the gym. 

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Dude, you are really overreaching here. I get being devil's advocate on a forum to be cool and all. But good grief. 

What am I overreaching about?  You don't think it's news that one of the best riders on the planet who just joined a new team changed...

What am I overreaching about?  You don't think it's news that one of the best riders on the planet who just joined a new team changed his primary riding facility mid season?  So if Eli all of the sudden moved to Club MX that's not worthy to talk about?  

DonM wrote:

possibly your claim that it's because of results....that can be considered an overreach...

I didn't claim that, I said it was possible.  It's all speculation.

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I have lost faith in Aldons' program. Lawrences, Sexton, Tomac, Ferrandis etc all have done well without it. Who is the most recent champ from Baker's...

I have lost faith in Aldons' program. Lawrences, Sexton, Tomac, Ferrandis etc all have done well without it. Who is the most recent champ from Baker's Factory? Dunge? 

UpTiTe wrote:
Absolutely nothing wrong with Aldons program, he just got too much credit for what the riders did.     If he had Jett, the mystique would still...

Absolutely nothing wrong with Aldons program, he just got too much credit for what the riders did. 
 

 If he had Jett, the mystique would still be there. 
 

 

JazzyJJ wrote:
Nothing wrong if you're already fast as hell and you have your bike setup figured out.   Everything wrong if you need to test and actually...

Nothing wrong if you're already fast as hell and you have your bike setup figured out.

 

Everything wrong if you need to test and actually want to improve technique instead of just pounding motos/miles on the bike/hours in the gym. 

I’ve said this for years, he’s a trainer, not a coach. 

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UpTiTe wrote:
Absolutely nothing wrong with Aldons program, he just got too much credit for what the riders did.     If he had Jett, the mystique would still...

Absolutely nothing wrong with Aldons program, he just got too much credit for what the riders did. 
 

 If he had Jett, the mystique would still be there. 
 

 

JazzyJJ wrote:
Nothing wrong if you're already fast as hell and you have your bike setup figured out.   Everything wrong if you need to test and actually...

Nothing wrong if you're already fast as hell and you have your bike setup figured out.

 

Everything wrong if you need to test and actually want to improve technique instead of just pounding motos/miles on the bike/hours in the gym. 

UpTiTe wrote:

I’ve said this for years, he’s a trainer, not a coach. 

If I remember right, RC never let Aldon near the on-the-bike portion of his program. That was RC, Jeannie, and Oshow’s domain. Aldon was off the bike only. 

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UpTiTe wrote:
Absolutely nothing wrong with Aldons program, he just got too much credit for what the riders did.     If he had Jett, the mystique would still...

Absolutely nothing wrong with Aldons program, he just got too much credit for what the riders did. 
 

 If he had Jett, the mystique would still be there. 
 

 

JazzyJJ wrote:
Nothing wrong if you're already fast as hell and you have your bike setup figured out.   Everything wrong if you need to test and actually...

Nothing wrong if you're already fast as hell and you have your bike setup figured out.

 

Everything wrong if you need to test and actually want to improve technique instead of just pounding motos/miles on the bike/hours in the gym. 

UpTiTe wrote:

I’ve said this for years, he’s a trainer, not a coach. 

I've seen plenty of clips of him telling riders how to ride.   Hell, he was taling to a motogp rider (Davizioso, I think) a few years ago and made some comments to him about riding.  Fucking ridiculous.

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I have lost faith in Aldons' program. Lawrences, Sexton, Tomac, Ferrandis etc all have done well without it. Who is the most recent champ from Baker's...

I have lost faith in Aldons' program. Lawrences, Sexton, Tomac, Ferrandis etc all have done well without it. Who is the most recent champ from Baker's Factory? Dunge? 

9bro9 wrote:

zach O

Ummm Webb x2

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JazzyJJ wrote:
Nothing wrong if you're already fast as hell and you have your bike setup figured out.   Everything wrong if you need to test and actually...

Nothing wrong if you're already fast as hell and you have your bike setup figured out.

 

Everything wrong if you need to test and actually want to improve technique instead of just pounding motos/miles on the bike/hours in the gym. 

UpTiTe wrote:

I’ve said this for years, he’s a trainer, not a coach. 

If I remember right, RC never let Aldon near the on-the-bike portion of his program. That was RC, Jeannie, and Oshow’s domain. Aldon was off the...

If I remember right, RC never let Aldon near the on-the-bike portion of his program. That was RC, Jeannie, and Oshow’s domain. Aldon was off the bike only. 

As where he should be. The guy is a fitness trainer, not a riding coach. Keep him away from the tracks like he was with RC.

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Brady [player] went to Tampa Bay and won a Superbowl without Belichick [coach]. Meanwhile New England went in the tank and the affable coach is out of the NFL 

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ILoveMoto wrote:
Brady [player] went to Tampa Bay and won a Superbowl without Belichick [coach]. Meanwhile New England went in the tank and the affable coach is out...

Brady [player] went to Tampa Bay and won a Superbowl without Belichick [coach]. Meanwhile New England went in the tank and the affable coach is out of the NFL 

Have you looked into the salary cap issues they were having? It was more than just Tom leaving. 

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Have you looked into the salary cap issues they were having? It was more than just Tom leaving. 

You're right I forgot about Gronk leaving 🙂 Cap numbers are always massaged in the NFL and contracts can be turned into signing bonuses and other tricks skirting the cap issue.

Bill had an awesome run but it's time to go. It happened to Tom Landry, Chuck Knoll, Don Shula, etc... all great coaches but the losses started piling up at the end USATSI 7285366

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I don't understand why we all make wild assumptions of the financial dealings in this sport when nothing is ever in black or white. I don't think in 45 years of following this sport I have read anything but vague references to what riders make, let alone Aldon Baker. I don't think anybody has ever documented whether Austria, or the riders pay Aldon, or what share, or how much. It is all assumptions, hints, clues, and bullshit, nobody not in the know is certain. 

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Spoonguy wrote:
I don't understand why we all make wild assumptions of the financial dealings in this sport when nothing is ever in black or white. I don't...

I don't understand why we all make wild assumptions of the financial dealings in this sport when nothing is ever in black or white. I don't think in 45 years of following this sport I have read anything but vague references to what riders make, let alone Aldon Baker. I don't think anybody has ever documented whether Austria, or the riders pay Aldon, or what share, or how much. It is all assumptions, hints, clues, and bullshit, nobody not in the know is certain. 

It's best to take posts as graffiti not Bible verses 🙂

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This just looks bad on Ktm imo. It looks like they told him no aldon would be fine but knew the whole time they’d make him go there. 

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