WADA Antidoping Agency Lost Track of Open Cases and Test Results Before Olympics

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Chinese athletes, Russian athletes, etc..


Not hard to figure out..

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10/2/2024 4:43am
mooch wrote:

Correct...but unfortunately here just long enough to screw up several different rider's careers. 

UpTiTe wrote:

They shouldn’t have cheated. 

zehn wrote:

Which riders were cheating using actual PEDs?

Stewart Tickle, and Craig. But Craig was smart and hired a big dollar lawyer and got off. 

 But all three were 100% using a banned product and got caught. 

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10/2/2024 4:45am
UpTiTe wrote:

They shouldn’t have cheated. 

zehn wrote:

Which riders were cheating using actual PEDs?

GrapeApe wrote:

Stewart, Clason and Tickle

Clason got caught smoking pot, I wouldn’t call that a ped. 

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10/2/2024 4:49am
mooch wrote:

Correct...but unfortunately here just long enough to screw up several different rider's careers. 

UpTiTe wrote:

They shouldn’t have cheated. 

GrapeApe wrote:
True, but the accused have rights and WADA ignored the US-based cases and let the riders twist for several months. They had no business being involved...

True, but the accused have rights and WADA ignored the US-based cases and let the riders twist for several months. They had no business being involved in a US series, a byproduct of the ". . . an FIM World Championship" suffix.

I agree 100%, but they were here, and they were in charge, and those riders took a banned substance. 

 

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10/2/2024 4:54am Edited Date/Time 10/2/2024 4:56am
Wisco322 wrote:

Beat me to it. All because of some contaminated Pre workout....

If guys tested positive because of contaminated products, there would be huge lawsuits. 

 Three guys got caught, it’s really that simple. Where they mishandled? 100%. Do I agree with what happened? Absolutely not, but they still took a band product and they got caught. 

 

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10/2/2024 5:18am
zehn wrote:

Which riders were cheating using actual PEDs?

GrapeApe wrote:

Stewart, Clason and Tickle

UpTiTe wrote:

Clason got caught smoking pot, I wouldn’t call that a ped. 

Clason's case was Adderall, same as Stewart.

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10/2/2024 5:34am
GrapeApe wrote:

Stewart, Clason and Tickle

UpTiTe wrote:

Clason got caught smoking pot, I wouldn’t call that a ped. 

GrapeApe wrote:

Clason's case was Adderall, same as Stewart.

I thought it was thc for some reason. 

 That’s definitely a ped. 

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10/2/2024 5:37am
burn1986 wrote:

The FIM told Davey and Feld to do the WADA and they said “Yes Boss.” No one who matters cares about what happens with them. 

Davey has nothing to do with supercross and the FIM has never been involved with or influenced US pro motocross. Pro motocross used USADA not WADA.

10/2/2024 6:13am
Wisco322 wrote:

Beat me to it. All because of some contaminated Pre workout....

UpTiTe wrote:
If guys tested positive because of contaminated products, there would be huge lawsuits.  Three guys got caught, it’s really that simple. Where they mishandled? 100%. Do I...

If guys tested positive because of contaminated products, there would be huge lawsuits. 

 Three guys got caught, it’s really that simple. Where they mishandled? 100%. Do I agree with what happened? Absolutely not, but they still took a band product and they got caught. 

 

In the US, Supplements aren't regulated like food and drugs are. So ultimately its on the athlete to be cautious of what they put in their body. On top of that we are talking about a substance that was present at like 3 PPB which is damn near nonexistent much less a beneficial amount. What it ultimately came down to was that he didn't save a small amount of the pre workout in the off chance that he failed a test. He had a course of action to prove innocence, but he didn't take the proper steps to allow himself to take it.

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10/3/2024 11:11am
GrapeApe wrote:

Davey has nothing to do with supercross and the FIM has never been involved with or influenced US pro motocross. Pro motocross used USADA not WADA.

Pretty sure the appeals process goes outside of the US. Seems like it did for Tickle. USADA is a label for WADA in the US just like CHINADA is WADA in China. Granted they use WADA code in their policy, but it’s a far stretch from US having the same independency from the WADA as something like the NFL or NBA. DC could care less about who does it actually. He runs the Nats and that’s how he gets paid (apparently). If he has to have a drug governing body, then he goes with whatever his vendors want, or tell him to get.

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10/3/2024 11:27am Edited Date/Time 10/3/2024 11:30am
GrapeApe wrote:

Davey has nothing to do with supercross and the FIM has never been involved with or influenced US pro motocross. Pro motocross used USADA not WADA.

burn1986 wrote:
Pretty sure the appeals process goes outside of the US. Seems like it did for Tickle. USADA is a label for WADA in the US just...

Pretty sure the appeals process goes outside of the US. Seems like it did for Tickle. USADA is a label for WADA in the US just like CHINADA is WADA in China. Granted they use WADA code in their policy, but it’s a far stretch from US having the same independency from the WADA as something like the NFL or NBA. DC could care less about who does it actually. He runs the Nats and that’s how he gets paid (apparently). If he has to have a drug governing body, then he goes with whatever his vendors want, or tell him to get.

Maybe you should sit this one out at least until you've familiarized yourself with the subject matter

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10/3/2024 11:53am Edited Date/Time 10/3/2024 11:58am
GrapeApe wrote:

Maybe you should sit this one out at least until you've familiarized yourself with the subject matter

Thanks dad for the wisdom and far reaching technical expertise that only comes from agency structure mediation and years of late nite analytical projections beyond what is readily apparent, and usually happens with hours of help desk support and multiple passsword resets 😏

It’s so good to know that all our wonderful US affiliates are completely on the up and up, and have no self interests or motives in the whole grand scheme of fairness and parity for US rider support and success.

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10/3/2024 12:38pm
GrapeApe wrote:

Maybe you should sit this one out at least until you've familiarized yourself with the subject matter

burn1986 wrote:
Thanks dad for the wisdom and far reaching technical expertise that only comes from agency structure mediation and years of late nite analytical projections beyond what...

Thanks dad for the wisdom and far reaching technical expertise that only comes from agency structure mediation and years of late nite analytical projections beyond what is readily apparent, and usually happens with hours of help desk support and multiple passsword resets 😏

It’s so good to know that all our wonderful US affiliates are completely on the up and up, and have no self interests or motives in the whole grand scheme of fairness and parity for US rider support and success.

Is there some kind of thought you're having and the words aren't coming out right, or maybe a point or opinion you're trying to convey? Or are you responding to anything in particular I said that maybe I'm missing? I'm just picking up incoherent babbling, sorry.

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10/3/2024 12:49pm Edited Date/Time 10/3/2024 3:10pm
GrapeApe wrote:

Maybe you should sit this one out at least until you've familiarized yourself with the subject matter

burn1986 wrote:
Thanks dad for the wisdom and far reaching technical expertise that only comes from agency structure mediation and years of late nite analytical projections beyond what...

Thanks dad for the wisdom and far reaching technical expertise that only comes from agency structure mediation and years of late nite analytical projections beyond what is readily apparent, and usually happens with hours of help desk support and multiple passsword resets 😏

It’s so good to know that all our wonderful US affiliates are completely on the up and up, and have no self interests or motives in the whole grand scheme of fairness and parity for US rider support and success.

GrapeApe wrote:
Is there some kind of thought you're having and the words aren't coming out right, or maybe a point or opinion you're trying to convey? Or...

Is there some kind of thought you're having and the words aren't coming out right, or maybe a point or opinion you're trying to convey? Or are you responding to anything in particular I said that maybe I'm missing? I'm just picking up incoherent babbling, sorry.

Hahaha! You can’t translate all that lol?!

 

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