Honda CR250R rebuild.

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Since I love these topics myself I decided to post my own rebuild. Didn't know what part of the forum that was the best suited for it, since Moto-Related seems like the one most visited and I've seen many builds in here I went for it. Thought about waiting to start the thread until I've come a bit further on the project but couldn't hold it anymore.

Picked up this bike a couple of weeks ago dirt cheap off a friend. It's been sitting in his garage for years.



Couldn't wait to pick it apart, not even the camera man was ready.



It's an -04 in pretty stock condition except for a Doma pipe that has more rust attached to it than an old Mercedes.



There is a lot of beautilful Honda rebuilds in here. I aim to build a competitive and cheap weekend warrior scooter. So not many fancy upgrades will be done. I started with picking everything a part and my goal was to do the most boring parts first, my theory is if I wait with the boring stuff they won't get done. But it turned out all the parts came a part nicely. Both previous owners are car builders and works as mechanics so everything was greased and lubed. Even though all the bearings in the linkage was toast. At least the bolts came out right away. Even the swing arm bolt slided right out without using a massive sledge.








Cleaning went down early on the list and decide what parts that needed to be ordered.

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Got a delivery. Not sure what look I'm going for here. Probably a retro look with blue seat and gold wheels. Any advice is welcome.



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3/20/2015 5:32pm
Excellent project, good luck and enjoy. Can't wait to see the end product.
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3/20/2015 5:43pm
Tx race would probably do a blue seat for u.......

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3/21/2015 2:00am Edited Date/Time 3/21/2015 3:18am
gsxr6 wrote:
Tx race would probably do a blue seat for u.......[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2015/03/20/84501/s1200_IMG_20150314_205747610_HDR.jpg[/img]
Tx race would probably do a blue seat for u.......

I love the idea of the new look on the bike. The ones I've seen so far looks incredible. But I'm not fully sold on the fitment with the rear fender/side panels etc. And totally not sold on the price.
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3/21/2015 2:16am Edited Date/Time 3/21/2015 2:19am
I really hated the bar setup from the first pic so my first purchase was a Renthal 994, bar clamps, and a Sunline clutch assembly.



The bike has only been ridden about 3 hours since 2011 and not washed once. My friend washed it before he dropped it off at my place, so I don't have any pictures of what it looked like. But I got some kind of idea. I probably shaved off a couple of pounds just cleaning the frame.



I think I'll give the Doma pipe a chance and try to clean it up just to stay on budget. But I'm looking for a silencer. What is the way to go? Saw that BUD racing has a really neat one. But a safe card is always a Shorty. Looking for a budget way to do the wheels, got a great deal on a set of gold rims. But I hate lacing and truing with old spokes.



My goal is to stay way under $2000 on this project. Spent about $1000 for the bike alone. Second hand bike prices in Sweden is way off. First off there's only ONE CR250R for sale in the whole country. And when you find one they want silly money for it.
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Start off with Steel Wool soap pads on the pipe. Once you've done that you'll have a good Idea if it can be saved or not.

Looking forward to seeing it all come together.
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3/21/2015 10:18am
Looking good! Scalvini has a few options when it comes to silencers, might be worth checking out.
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3/21/2015 10:31am
Shoot blackbird racing an email for a blue seat cover.
The made me a fully custom gripper seat cover for my yz250f and it's really good I highly recommend them. They are in Italy so shipping shouldn't be a huge issue
3/21/2015 10:41am
Olson, u might wanna look into "hydro dipping" for parts u wanna give that "trick" look and stay on budget. Its pretty cheap, holds up extremly well and gives the bike a very unique look heres an example, enjoy your build

3/21/2015 10:42am
I'm sure you can find these in your neck of the woods at a much lower cost then we get them... Scalvini has got it dialed!

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Thank you guys for all the input. Now I have some more options to go with. I have talked to Blackbird about a custom seat. I think their seat material is by far the best out there. But I did pick up a blue TLD/Adidas seat cover for $10 so I might give it a shot before I go to Blackbird. Always wanted a TLD Honda but it's so damn popular around here I'm opting for a different look.

Not sure about my opinion about hydro dip. The stuff looks clean but honestly it shows too well it's not real carbon.

I've thought about the Scalvini route, but I've heard a lot of stories about bad fitment. Will definetly look into the silencers.

Have got some job done and will drop off some more pictures tomorrow or monday.

My biggest concern right now is the wheels. It sits right now with a stock 36 spoke front wheel and a Talon 36 spoke rear wheel with gold hub and gold rim, but the rim is so blasted it's silver. Since Honda use a 32 spoke rear wheel stock it leaves the options for changing hub/rim a lot slimmer. Thought about picking up a set of red hubs and sandblast the rear wheel silver. But can't find a 36 spoke hub for Honda anywhere. The wheels aren't in a very good shape either. Will not drop 800-1000 on wheels when it's the amount I spent on the full bike. So my only option right now is gold rims and use the hubs I've got.
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3/21/2015 1:38pm Edited Date/Time 3/24/2015 5:58pm
Free Tip. The Scalvini carbon silencers are shit.

I'd Nickel plate the Hubs and hard Anno the rims black. It cost me bugger all to do that here. The Nickel looks classy IMO. Do your triple clamps and foot pegs, spring and pins as well. Bling Bling!!

I also had a linkage and my brake callipers done in Nickel.

3/21/2015 2:25pm
#991 that looks great if the build isn't ever gonna be ridden, olson, the hydrodipping is great for motor mounts , bar clamps, anything that u want to look trick, imo works great, but for the silencer I have a new scalvini myself and have ordered the new pc, I just don't like the bracket on the scalvini that attaches it to the frame
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3/21/2015 2:27pm Edited Date/Time 3/21/2015 2:31pm
#991 that looks great if the build isn't ever gonna be ridden, olson, the hydrodipping is great for motor mounts , bar clamps, anything that u...
#991 that looks great if the build isn't ever gonna be ridden, olson, the hydrodipping is great for motor mounts , bar clamps, anything that u want to look trick, imo works great, but for the silencer I have a new scalvini myself and have ordered the new pc, I just don't like the bracket on the scalvini that attaches it to the frame
Been Nickel plating parts for years, Swing arms, frames, you name it. Never had a problem

Hydro dipping. That didn't go so well.

That Scalvini bracket is great. If you want your silencer mounted directly above your rear tire that is.
I'd normally suggest PC, but for the Doma pipe, the BUD silencer might be the go.
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#991 That looks awesome. But the bike will be ridden regularly and don't want to spend a ton of cash on parts that will get ruined. How easy is it to find a guy that can hard anno rims and nickel plate the hubs? Guess not a regular car painter or body shop?

I can lace and tru my own wheels, just need to find a guy that can do the paint. Is it expensive do it? Or will I get off cheaper with selling the stock wheels and go by a new set of SM Pro or similar? I might get about 2-300 for the stock rims and SM Pro sells for about 700.

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3/21/2015 3:31pm Edited Date/Time 3/21/2015 3:43pm
Olson wrote:
#991 That looks awesome. But the bike will be ridden regularly and don't want to spend a ton of cash on parts that will get ruined...
#991 That looks awesome. But the bike will be ridden regularly and don't want to spend a ton of cash on parts that will get ruined. How easy is it to find a guy that can hard anno rims and nickel plate the hubs? Guess not a regular car painter or body shop?

I can lace and tru my own wheels, just need to find a guy that can do the paint. Is it expensive do it? Or will I get off cheaper with selling the stock wheels and go by a new set of SM Pro or similar? I might get about 2-300 for the stock rims and SM Pro sells for about 700.

Same place that did the Anno did the Nickel. It holds up great. Never even chipped a Nickel plated part. Touch wood Tongue .

Powder coating might be a good option for you Wink . Won't cost a lot more than paint if the paint is done by a pro.

I have a mate who's an Industrial painter and does my stuff for free. The paint he uses is Incredibly durable. No Idea what it is though sorry. He does sand blast everything first as well which would help it hold up I suppose.

Is the front Hub billet as well? If so, You can use draino crystals to strip the anno and then just polish them up with an SOS pad.

Same with the Rims. I'd say both will be hard Anno. Just keep your eye on it, without breathing in the fumes LOL. When It's ready it will start to go black but the SOS pad makes very light work of that. Just don't leave it in too long.
You may have to repeat the process with hard anno.

You can also use HD oven cleaner. On hard anno that will take a few goes at it though.
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Olson wrote:
#991 That looks awesome. But the bike will be ridden regularly and don't want to spend a ton of cash on parts that will get ruined...
#991 That looks awesome. But the bike will be ridden regularly and don't want to spend a ton of cash on parts that will get ruined. How easy is it to find a guy that can hard anno rims and nickel plate the hubs? Guess not a regular car painter or body shop?

I can lace and tru my own wheels, just need to find a guy that can do the paint. Is it expensive do it? Or will I get off cheaper with selling the stock wheels and go by a new set of SM Pro or similar? I might get about 2-300 for the stock rims and SM Pro sells for about 700.

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Same place that did the Anno did the Nickel. It holds up great. Never even chipped a Nickel plated part. Touch wood :P . Powder coating...
Same place that did the Anno did the Nickel. It holds up great. Never even chipped a Nickel plated part. Touch wood Tongue .

Powder coating might be a good option for you Wink . Won't cost a lot more than paint if the paint is done by a pro.

I have a mate who's an Industrial painter and does my stuff for free. The paint he uses is Incredibly durable. No Idea what it is though sorry. He does sand blast everything first as well which would help it hold up I suppose.

Is the front Hub billet as well? If so, You can use draino crystals to strip the anno and then just polish them up with an SOS pad.

Same with the Rims. I'd say both will be hard Anno. Just keep your eye on it, without breathing in the fumes LOL. When It's ready it will start to go black but the SOS pad makes very light work of that. Just don't leave it in too long.
You may have to repeat the process with hard anno.

You can also use HD oven cleaner. On hard anno that will take a few goes at it though.
Thank you, every advice and all experience is welcomed. Will definetly consider it and ask around.
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3/22/2015 3:21pm Edited Date/Time 3/22/2015 3:23pm
Got some job done. The stock seat cover came off after being mounted for over a decade. Almost felt a little nostalgic.



It's been a while since I cleaned a carb so I just picked it a part to get up to date.



And the front end is coming together with a set of Öhlins 47, new bars, new design front fender and a Sunline clutch assy. I needed new grips and a new throttle tube so I went the Emig Locks route, which btw is genius and so simple. And because I'm extra alpha I had to go for pink grips to tone down my mascularity a notch.



The pipe is a bitch, period.





Did my first ever baking soda blast. Worked better than expected. But my closest supermarket only sold tiny cans of it so I just bought 500gr of it, and it was obviously not enough.



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Bonus pic. The forks are in very good condition. The bike actually came with these. Main reason I picked the bike up. I ran the exact same model on a CRF 450 back in -05 and even by today the most plush fork I've ever ridden.



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Bonus pic. The forks are in very good condition. The bike actually came with these. Main reason I picked the bike up. I ran the exact...
Bonus pic. The forks are in very good condition. The bike actually came with these. Main reason I picked the bike up. I ran the exact same model on a CRF 450 back in -05 and even by today the most plush fork I've ever ridden.



Drool Cool The Nitrate coating looks so nice.

I prefer the Yellow TLD graphics. Not as common either Wink

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Drool B) The Nitrate coating looks so nice. I prefer the Yellow TLD graphics. Not as common either ;) [URL=http://s295.photobucket.com/user/willow991/media/Bike%20pics/11076192_804240326334027_3491885852340243362_n_zpsebnwsaty.jpg.html][IMG]http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm123/willow991/Bike%20pics/11076192_804240326334027_3491885852340243362_n_zpsebnwsaty.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
Drool Cool The Nitrate coating looks so nice.

I prefer the Yellow TLD graphics. Not as common either Wink

I like those too. But only way to get that front fender is to paint it?
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3/22/2015 5:33pm Edited Date/Time 3/22/2015 5:34pm
#991 wrote:
Drool B) The Nitrate coating looks so nice. I prefer the Yellow TLD graphics. Not as common either ;) [URL=http://s295.photobucket.com/user/willow991/media/Bike%20pics/11076192_804240326334027_3491885852340243362_n_zpsebnwsaty.jpg.html][IMG]http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm123/willow991/Bike%20pics/11076192_804240326334027_3491885852340243362_n_zpsebnwsaty.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
Drool Cool The Nitrate coating looks so nice.

I prefer the Yellow TLD graphics. Not as common either Wink

Olson wrote:
I like those too. But only way to get that front fender is to paint it?
I reckon you'd get away with a White front guard and number plate. Even all White plastics would look pretty good IMO.
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3/23/2015 2:40pm Edited Date/Time 3/23/2015 3:14pm
Thought about all white plastics a bit more. I've had my fare share of white bikes through out the years but I think an all white one with the blue seat and a custom white and blue set of the TLD graphics will look bitchin.

Picked up a set of Öhlins decals at my local Öhlins shop today. Probably only good thing about living in Sweden, there's a Öhlins shop in every town. The front plate is not mounted, it just stands on top of the fender to see what it will look like.





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Got a free set of shroud graphics from a friend today. Used them on the stock shrouds. Will replace them as soon as I've decided what look I'm going for here. This buys me some time.

This is what they looked like when I got them. Woohoo



What they look like mounted.



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Looks awesome so far. Keep it coming! I think your idea of white plastic withe the blue TLD graphics would look great.
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Looks awesome so far. Keep it coming! I think your idea of white plastic withe the blue TLD graphics would look great.
Something like this. Pretty sure this is it. Just gotta find a graphics company that's up for the task.



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Olson wrote:
Got some job done. The stock seat cover came off after being mounted for over a decade. Almost felt a little nostalgic. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2015/03/22/84746/s1200_IMG_2763.jpg[/img] It's been a...
Got some job done. The stock seat cover came off after being mounted for over a decade. Almost felt a little nostalgic.



It's been a while since I cleaned a carb so I just picked it a part to get up to date.



And the front end is coming together with a set of Öhlins 47, new bars, new design front fender and a Sunline clutch assy. I needed new grips and a new throttle tube so I went the Emig Locks route, which btw is genius and so simple. And because I'm extra alpha I had to go for pink grips to tone down my mascularity a notch.



The pipe is a bitch, period.





Did my first ever baking soda blast. Worked better than expected. But my closest supermarket only sold tiny cans of it so I just bought 500gr of it, and it was obviously not enough.



Save yourself a major headache and buy this for your pipe...


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3/23/2015 4:06pm Edited Date/Time 3/23/2015 4:09pm
mx836 wrote:
Looks awesome so far. Keep it coming! I think your idea of white plastic withe the blue TLD graphics would look great.
Olson wrote:
Something like this. Pretty sure this is it. Just gotta find a graphics company that's up for the task. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2015/03/23/84954/s1200_77734_glenhelenproride_cudby_389.jpg[/img]
Something like this. Pretty sure this is it. Just gotta find a graphics company that's up for the task.



That looks nice. As do most White Honda's IMO.

I use Danger UK. They do a top job, can do chromed colours and they are really well priced IMO.

http://www.dangeruk.co.uk/

Smezmx put me onto them. Been using them for around 12 months now and am really happy with the service etc. I've bought about 6 custom graphic kits in that time.

Not sure how the currancy conversion works for you though.

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