SADDLEBACK CLOSED 34 YEARS AGO :(

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More low quality pics for your viewing pleasure...
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Ok, the last series of crappy pics I will torture you with....

The Johnny O' pic- I own that kidney belt and wore it every time I rode from 1984 through about 1987. After the race was over they held an auction to raise money for one of the Team Tamm riders that was injured earlier that year (can't recall his name anymore).

So many riders donated gear and other items, I wanted to try and buy something so my Dad gave me $20 bucks and said that was my "budget".

I think I held my hand up for everything that was up for auction, but had to stop at $20. Finally towards the end the Johnny O' Answer kidney belt came up, my hand went up, I waited to get out bid again... but I didn't and I won!

When we left that day to drive back home to Arizona in my Dad's yellow Toyota Corolla, I had no idea a few months later it would be closed and gone for good.
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AZ35 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/09/15/287616/s1200_Saddleback_1984_3.jpg[/img] Ok, the last series of crappy pics I will torture you with.... The Johnny O' pic- I own that kidney belt and wore it every...



Ok, the last series of crappy pics I will torture you with....

The Johnny O' pic- I own that kidney belt and wore it every time I rode from 1984 through about 1987. After the race was over they held an auction to raise money for one of the Team Tamm riders that was injured earlier that year (can't recall his name anymore).

So many riders donated gear and other items, I wanted to try and buy something so my Dad gave me $20 bucks and said that was my "budget".

I think I held my hand up for everything that was up for auction, but had to stop at $20. Finally towards the end the Johnny O' Answer kidney belt came up, my hand went up, I waited to get out bid again... but I didn't and I won!

When we left that day to drive back home to Arizona in my Dad's yellow Toyota Corolla, I had no idea a few months later it would be closed and gone for good.
You're not torturing me with those pics, bring back good memories.
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nuzzy211 wrote:
my nickname is nuh was just reading all the posts . I still talk to Goat at least once a week
dimetime wrote:
If you're who l think you are l hung out w/Huds and dated your sister for a little while in tenth grade.
nuzzy211 wrote:
my little sister is Kelly Wiseman I do know Tim Huddleston
I know you then, l was the grommet that hung out w/Huds and l was bestowed the nickname "Elliott" by Goat and l did hang w/Kelly my sophmore year. Saw her at A1 a few years ago!

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Mickey Kessler & Eric McKenna on the Magoo Double Jump, 1983 Saddleback National [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/09/14/287234/s1200_MickeyKesslerEricMcKennaSbck1983_01.jpg[/img] .
Mickey Kessler & Eric McKenna on the Magoo Double Jump, 1983 Saddleback National
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McKenna was a badass.
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nuzzy211 wrote:
my nickname is nuh was just reading all the posts . I still talk to Goat at least once a week
Nuh... Its Blinker.

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nuzzy211 wrote:
my nickname is nuh was just reading all the posts . I still talk to Goat at least once a week
Nuh... Its Blinker. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/09/15/287658/s1200_E9189EF0_AABE_4A93_8E54_58D45A20831A.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/09/15/287659/s1200_6D6C12AC_A298_4F39_B74C_BEEC9C41E719.jpg[/img]
Nuh... Its Blinker.

The cover photo of JJ.
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nuzzy211 wrote:
my nickname is nuh was just reading all the posts . I still talk to Goat at least once a week
Nuh... Its Blinker. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/09/15/287658/s1200_E9189EF0_AABE_4A93_8E54_58D45A20831A.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/09/15/287659/s1200_6D6C12AC_A298_4F39_B74C_BEEC9C41E719.jpg[/img]
Nuh... Its Blinker.

Bigfoot wrote:
The cover photo of JJ. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/09/16/287685/s1200_14249892_10154466118076064_509095945990883191_o.jpg[/img]
The cover photo of JJ.
Have an original. :-) Even a true original PC Husky 250 from my time w/PC back then. Then and now. Fun memories

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Bigfoot wrote:
Mickey Kessler & Eric McKenna on the Magoo Double Jump, 1983 Saddleback National [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/09/14/287234/s1200_MickeyKesslerEricMcKennaSbck1983_01.jpg[/img] .
Mickey Kessler & Eric McKenna on the Magoo Double Jump, 1983 Saddleback National
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oldblood wrote:
McKenna was a badass.
I"ll second that!
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9/16/2018 7:09pm Edited Date/Time 9/16/2018 7:20pm
dimetime wrote:
Dude! Probably ran across you as well.

Does the name "Nuh" mean anything to you? Fantasy Muffler? Huds? Moleman? Studly?
I know of fantasy muffler from the mid 70's. i think they had a lite blue van with fantasy muffler painted on the side.

Do you know or have you heard of lee scheaffers of lees pipes or dean modesset who made pipes for huskys, or neil and keith fearing from galaxy wholesale, or tim tolar, mike raines, dave miller, or bill quals of q & e cycle or norm reeves honda motorcycles?

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I know of fantasy muffler from the mid 70's. i think they had a lite blue van with fantasy muffler painted on the side. Do you...
I know of fantasy muffler from the mid 70's. i think they had a lite blue van with fantasy muffler painted on the side.

Do you know or have you heard of lee scheaffers of lees pipes or dean modesset who made pipes for huskys, or neil and keith fearing from galaxy wholesale, or tim tolar, mike raines, dave miller, or bill quals of q & e cycle or norm reeves honda motorcycles?

Yes l did know the Fearings and Galaxy wholesale. Keith was fast. Bought my first "real" moto boots from them. Norstars? Tim Tolar lived near by but l didn't know him personally.
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Raced CMC & Saturday Saddleback from 74' to 82'



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9/17/2018 8:01am Edited Date/Time 9/17/2018 8:05am
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Yes l did know the Fearings and Galaxy wholesale. Keith was fast. Bought my first "real" moto boots from them. Norstars? Tim Tolar lived near by...
Yes l did know the Fearings and Galaxy wholesale. Keith was fast. Bought my first "real" moto boots from them. Norstars? Tim Tolar lived near by but l didn't know him personally.
Small world or maybe not for anyone that lived in so cal. I worked at norm reeves around 1974 thru 1976 and they bought boots and other items from galaxy which was about 1/2 mile away and i would often be the person that went over there to get the stuff which is how i met keith, neil, and tosh and we all became very good friends. I was racing at the time so neil sponsored me in a small way and he was the local distributor for can am so i bought a new can am 250 from him around 1980. Neil passed away on a riding trip. I think he was only around 48 at the time. It was very sad.

Dave miller had a business named miler mano around 1977. He sponsored tim tolar and mike raines and myself. He now has DMC concepts.

Here is keiths company and info if you want to say hi.

http://www.americandirtbike.com/
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9/17/2018 8:10am Edited Date/Time 9/17/2018 8:21am
bigmaico wrote:
Raced CMC & Saturday Saddleback from 74' to 82' [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/09/17/287941/s1200_Saddleback_74.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/09/17/287942/s1200_Vintage010.jpg[/img]
Raced CMC & Saturday Saddleback from 74' to 82'



Cool photos. The first one is at webco hill which i'm sure you know.

What is your name?

Did you ever race ocir?

Do you know anyone's name in the first photo?

Number p21 has a collins and sons shirt on. The son was ritchie collins and he raced pro and was fast. Their shop was around 1 mile away from norm reeves where i worked. I see an fmf jersey in there too along with a few very wide handlebars.

I raced with amc mostly but did a few cmc races including a couple golden state nationals, one at saddleback and one at carlsbad. i smashed my nuts and dented my tank on gary ogdens fmf suzuki i bought from fmf after he broke his shoulder when bottoming out on the compression at the bottom of bonzai hill on the start. up until then i was doing great because i was in around 5th place, lol.



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Raced CMC & Saturday Saddleback from 74' to 82' [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/09/17/287941/s1200_Saddleback_74.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/09/17/287942/s1200_Vintage010.jpg[/img]
Raced CMC & Saturday Saddleback from 74' to 82'



barnett468 wrote:
Cool photos. The first one is at webco hill which i'm sure you know. What is your name? Did you ever race ocir? Do you know...
Cool photos. The first one is at webco hill which i'm sure you know.

What is your name?

Did you ever race ocir?

Do you know anyone's name in the first photo?

Number p21 has a collins and sons shirt on. The son was ritchie collins and he raced pro and was fast. Their shop was around 1 mile away from norm reeves where i worked. I see an fmf jersey in there too along with a few very wide handlebars.

I raced with amc mostly but did a few cmc races including a couple golden state nationals, one at saddleback and one at carlsbad. i smashed my nuts and dented my tank on gary ogdens fmf suzuki i bought from fmf after he broke his shoulder when bottoming out on the compression at the bottom of bonzai hill on the start. up until then i was doing great because i was in around 5th place, lol.



What is your name?

Howard Lobel

Did you ever race ocir?

Yes a few time in 74'

Do you know anyone's name in the first photo?

No I don't remember anyone in that picture!

Number p21 has a collins and sons shirt on. The son was ritchie collins and he raced pro and was fast. Their shop was around 1 mile away from norm reeves where i worked. I see an fmf jersey in there too along with a few very wide handlebars.

Number is actually R21


Wasen't Norm Reeves on Paramount & Alondra? Collins & sons was on Ball Ave in Anaheim.
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I love reading this thread and hearing all the stories. I missed out on this era having just recently moving to the area in question. I ride my bike by the old site and even race the OTH MTB race series.

The site where the track was sits on top of an old dump? What are the politics of the land now?
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bigmaico wrote:
What is your name? [i]Howard Lobel [/i] Did you ever race ocir? [i]Yes a few time in 74'[/i] Do you know anyone's name in the first...
What is your name?

Howard Lobel

Did you ever race ocir?

Yes a few time in 74'

Do you know anyone's name in the first photo?

No I don't remember anyone in that picture!

Number p21 has a collins and sons shirt on. The son was ritchie collins and he raced pro and was fast. Their shop was around 1 mile away from norm reeves where i worked. I see an fmf jersey in there too along with a few very wide handlebars.

Number is actually R21


Wasen't Norm Reeves on Paramount & Alondra? Collins & sons was on Ball Ave in Anaheim.
norm reeves had 3 stores . one was 909 n anaheim blvd where i worked and the other was in downey and the 3rd was in parmount which is still there and still owned by the same person who is doug slumskie but it is now called mid cities honda he married donna reeves daughter diana and she is still there 3 days a week. they live near me in temecula now and i bought some parts from here just last month.

when i worked at norm reeves in 74, collins and son was on lincoln ave. they may have been on ball road before that but i don't know. mike belisle had a small shop on ball road around 1 mile west of state college.

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Ozy wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/09/14/287383/s1200_Metro_sideways_air_on_vet_track.jpg[/img] Our buddy "Metro" on the Saddleback 2 vet track. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/09/14/287386/s1200_Saddleback_2.jpg[/img] this is me on the front table of saddleback 2. Really fun track. Heard the...

Our buddy "Metro" on the Saddleback 2 vet track.



this is me on the front table of saddleback 2. Really fun track. Heard the president of the Irvine Co shut down saddleback 2 at Irvine lake . . . guess he remembered all the lawsuits that got dumped on his company as land owners of the original saddleback park
I remember that table top on the vet track! I think there was another one after it? I remember coming around the bush and seeing our truck parked there and looking over at my parents mid air. Felt so cool at 11 or 12 years old. Laughing
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I love reading this thread and hearing all the stories. I missed out on this era having just recently moving to the area in question. I...
I love reading this thread and hearing all the stories. I missed out on this era having just recently moving to the area in question. I ride my bike by the old site and even race the OTH MTB race series.

The site where the track was sits on top of an old dump? What are the politics of the land now?
what is oth mtb?

no saddleback is not on top of the dump. the dump was right behind saddleback and you could see it if you went straight up the start hill and kept going straight instead of making the turn to go onto the track.

nothing is happening with the saddleback land yet.
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norm reeves had 3 stores . one was 909 n anaheim blvd where i worked and the other was in downey and the 3rd was in...
norm reeves had 3 stores . one was 909 n anaheim blvd where i worked and the other was in downey and the 3rd was in parmount which is still there and still owned by the same person who is doug slumskie but it is now called mid cities honda he married donna reeves daughter diana and she is still there 3 days a week. they live near me in temecula now and i bought some parts from here just last month.

when i worked at norm reeves in 74, collins and son was on lincoln ave. they may have been on ball road before that but i don't know. mike belisle had a small shop on ball road around 1 mile west of state college.

My Dad surpised me with a brand new 76 KX 125 he bought from the Anaheim Blvd location and we did a party bus from there as well for one of the early Superbowls of Motocross. I don't remember which one but it wasn't the first one.

I was happy but of course one of those those "Screaming Yellow Zonkers" were what l was really dreaming about.

I put a fork kit on those three mil forks. They were like spaghetti. Welded some new laydown shock mounts, put an up pipe on the thing. I had no fucking clue what l was doing. Kids sheesh.
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9/18/2018 1:27pm Edited Date/Time 9/18/2018 1:28pm
Ozy wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/09/14/287383/s1200_Metro_sideways_air_on_vet_track.jpg[/img] Our buddy "Metro" on the Saddleback 2 vet track. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/09/14/287386/s1200_Saddleback_2.jpg[/img] this is me on the front table of saddleback 2. Really fun track. Heard the...

Our buddy "Metro" on the Saddleback 2 vet track.



this is me on the front table of saddleback 2. Really fun track. Heard the president of the Irvine Co shut down saddleback 2 at Irvine lake . . . guess he remembered all the lawsuits that got dumped on his company as land owners of the original saddleback park
mattyhamz2 wrote:
I remember that table top on the vet track! I think there was another one after it? I remember coming around the bush and seeing our...
I remember that table top on the vet track! I think there was another one after it? I remember coming around the bush and seeing our truck parked there and looking over at my parents mid air. Felt so cool at 11 or 12 years old. Laughing
Were there one day and l forget which pro did it but he jumped both tables as a double. It was fucking cool.

I remember thinking "l can do that" and after plowing into the face of the other tabletop trying to judge the distance l thought the better of it and let it go.
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Barnett 468,

Man that was 44 years ago ! I totally forgot about Norm Reeves having 3 stores.

You’re Right Collins & sons Was on Lincoln.
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Ozy wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/09/14/287383/s1200_Metro_sideways_air_on_vet_track.jpg[/img] Our buddy "Metro" on the Saddleback 2 vet track. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/09/14/287386/s1200_Saddleback_2.jpg[/img] this is me on the front table of saddleback 2. Really fun track. Heard the...

Our buddy "Metro" on the Saddleback 2 vet track.



this is me on the front table of saddleback 2. Really fun track. Heard the president of the Irvine Co shut down saddleback 2 at Irvine lake . . . guess he remembered all the lawsuits that got dumped on his company as land owners of the original saddleback park
mattyhamz2 wrote:
I remember that table top on the vet track! I think there was another one after it? I remember coming around the bush and seeing our...
I remember that table top on the vet track! I think there was another one after it? I remember coming around the bush and seeing our truck parked there and looking over at my parents mid air. Felt so cool at 11 or 12 years old. Laughing
dimetime wrote:
Were there one day and l forget which pro did it but he jumped both tables as a double. It was fucking cool. I remember thinking...
Were there one day and l forget which pro did it but he jumped both tables as a double. It was fucking cool.

I remember thinking "l can do that" and after plowing into the face of the other tabletop trying to judge the distance l thought the better of it and let it go.
I remember hearing about that. I can't remember who it was either. Maybe someone will remember and tell us haha.
9/19/2018 5:14pm
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SADDLEBACK PARK: Closed for 34 Years It's hard to believe, but 34 years ago today, Saddleback Park, the motocross and riding park in Irvine, California, closed...
SADDLEBACK PARK: Closed for 34 Years

It's hard to believe, but 34 years ago today, Saddleback Park, the motocross and riding park in Irvine, California, closed its gates for good.

The B&W shot is one that I shot of Steve Wise and Jeff Jennings in a CMC race in 1975. They had fierce battles in both motos, with the win going to JJ. A moment before I shot this they'd bumped hips in mid-air!

The other is from 1984, that's Jeff Ward jumping up Suicide Mountain in the AMA National. He and Johnny O'Mara were the only 125cc racers to consistently clear it that day.








Actually they reopened a couple of times in the 90's and with the way things are looking over today. Besides challenger running courses and mountain bike racing they are looking at reinvesting into something awesome from what I hear. Im hopong.it involves bringing back Saddleback!
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My Dad surpised me with a brand new 76 KX 125 he bought from the Anaheim Blvd location and we did a party bus from there...
My Dad surpised me with a brand new 76 KX 125 he bought from the Anaheim Blvd location and we did a party bus from there as well for one of the early Superbowls of Motocross. I don't remember which one but it wasn't the first one.

I was happy but of course one of those those "Screaming Yellow Zonkers" were what l was really dreaming about.

I put a fork kit on those three mil forks. They were like spaghetti. Welded some new laydown shock mounts, put an up pipe on the thing. I had no fucking clue what l was doing. Kids sheesh.
then he he probably bought it from either kenny markham who was donna reeves brother or from jim hayes, and i probably did the initial assembly on it. kenny and howard markham and howards daughter lived in that tiny house in the parking lot.

everyone from norm reeves went to a superbowl around that time 75 or 76. it was the one that jeff jennings raced a 125 bultaco in for the support class or something. gary fishburn put so many additional ports in that cylinder that it looked like swiss cheese. i rode it in the parking lot of the paramount store when gary was trying to tune the tillotson carb.

our manager was art smith and he had a new huge motorhome, and the day of the race he threw me the keys and a wad full of cash and told me to fill it up with gas and supplies but i didn't tell him that i had never driven anything bigger than my econoline van or 64 dodge truck, lol, so i took it and filled the bathtub with ice and several cases of beer and got a few bags of chips etc. when it was time to leave for the race, he gave me the keys again and said your drivin. man i was kinda freaked out driving that thing on the freeway and around town in traffic.

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Couple of a Saddleback National images. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/09/19/288265/s1200_s1600_101338750_1270784970.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/09/19/288264/s1200_s1600_126523250_1270784187.jpg[/img]
Couple of a Saddleback National images.



great photo. looks like bob hannah, and nearly off the track as usual.
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what is oth mtb? no saddleback is not on top of the dump. the dump was right behind saddleback and you could see it if you...
what is oth mtb?

no saddleback is not on top of the dump. the dump was right behind saddleback and you could see it if you went straight up the start hill and kept going straight instead of making the turn to go onto the track.

nothing is happening with the saddleback land yet.
Over The Hump mountain bike race series. Super fun 12 week Tue night cross county’s race series. Best part is all the pro moto dudes I’ve seen and talked to.

I’ve met Johnny O, Tomac, the Martins, Tickle, Troy Lee, Millsaps, Ryno, Ward..

I think they use them as training rides during the outdoors.

Anyway...WTF was the track in relation to the lake?
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Over The Hump mountain bike race series. Super fun 12 week Tue night cross county’s race series. Best part is all the pro moto dudes I’ve...
Over The Hump mountain bike race series. Super fun 12 week Tue night cross county’s race series. Best part is all the pro moto dudes I’ve seen and talked to.

I’ve met Johnny O, Tomac, the Martins, Tickle, Troy Lee, Millsaps, Ryno, Ward..

I think they use them as training rides during the outdoors.

Anyway...WTF was the track in relation to the lake?
if you come in from orange, you go past the track a couple miles then you get to the lake entrance.
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mattyhamz2 wrote:
I remember that table top on the vet track! I think there was another one after it? I remember coming around the bush and seeing our...
I remember that table top on the vet track! I think there was another one after it? I remember coming around the bush and seeing our truck parked there and looking over at my parents mid air. Felt so cool at 11 or 12 years old. Laughing
dimetime wrote:
Were there one day and l forget which pro did it but he jumped both tables as a double. It was fucking cool. I remember thinking...
Were there one day and l forget which pro did it but he jumped both tables as a double. It was fucking cool.

I remember thinking "l can do that" and after plowing into the face of the other tabletop trying to judge the distance l thought the better of it and let it go.
mattyhamz2 wrote:
I remember hearing about that. I can't remember who it was either. Maybe someone will remember and tell us haha.
That would be Bubba on his 125! I saw him there several times when I lived out there. Emig was a frequent rider there as well.

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