Soccer Stadiums and SX

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Maybe this has been discussed before. Why have they never, (maybe we have?) even once tried to hold a supercross in a soccer stadium.

Most every city sx visits has a soccer stadium(weather/time of year not withstanding)

dimension of a soccer field tend to be approx 10yds longer and up to 30 yds wider than a football field...add a little more floor space around that and a trip up into the stands and couldn't we build a better track, wider lanes, etc...

thoughts?

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RG1 3/28/2017 4:06pm
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They play soccer the same time of year that SX is on don't they?
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reynardfan1 wrote:
Maybe this has been discussed before. Why have they never, (maybe we have?) even once tried to hold a supercross in a soccer stadium. Most every...
Maybe this has been discussed before. Why have they never, (maybe we have?) even once tried to hold a supercross in a soccer stadium.

Most every city sx visits has a soccer stadium(weather/time of year not withstanding)

dimension of a soccer field tend to be approx 10yds longer and up to 30 yds wider than a football field...add a little more floor space around that and a trip up into the stands and couldn't we build a better track, wider lanes, etc...

thoughts?

Doesn't the US Soccer season begin the first week of March?
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ML512 3/28/2017 4:09pm
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Map of MLS team stadiums... The Colorado stadium is the only one that really sparks my interest for an area we don't really visit already.



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I think its one of those "if it aint broke dont fix it" situations.

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I like any idea that gets the tracks into a venue with more space. I've always wanted to see more races on the infield of NASCAR tracks if it was done right. But as far as soccer fields go, FELD apparently isn't going to buy more dirt if their life depends on it, and that has to happen first. When we see exposed plywood and concrete nearly every week, it's hard to wonder if they really give a shit.
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Phillip_Lamb 3/28/2017 4:38pm
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it would be a better use of the stadium as mens soccer is a joke.
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I don't think soccer stadiums seat that many people compared to football and baseball stadiums.
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ML512 3/28/2017 4:41pm
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Radman66 wrote:
I don't think soccer stadiums seat that many people compared to football and baseball stadiums.
Good point, the Rapids stadium I mentioned only sits 19,000 or so.
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RG1 3/28/2017 4:45pm
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Radman66 wrote:
I don't think soccer stadiums seat that many people compared to football and baseball stadiums.
ML512 wrote:
Good point, the Rapids stadium I mentioned only sits 19,000 or so.
Although 19,000 is obviously too small, a smaller stadium could actually be better in some cases. You see some of the bigger stadiums with a lot of empty seats, you'd probably get a better vibe and atmosphere in a packed out smaller stadium
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The very first ever stadium scrambles/motocross race (1960's in Russia) was in a soccer stadium.
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RG1 wrote:
Although 19,000 is obviously too small, a smaller stadium could actually be better in some cases. You see some of the bigger stadiums with a lot...
Although 19,000 is obviously too small, a smaller stadium could actually be better in some cases. You see some of the bigger stadiums with a lot of empty seats, you'd probably get a better vibe and atmosphere in a packed out smaller stadium
Although I've been to some rounds without a very full crowd, that's definitely too small. Also, those stadiums have a very low seating deck at more of an angle. Most of those seats wouldn't be able to see over the jump in front of them. Very few of those 19,000 seats would be worth watching from.
BlackForestCO 3/28/2017 5:32pm
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Yes. Do a round at Dick's Sporting Good's Park (Rapid's stadium).

I'll be able to smell the race gas from home.

Do it.

I know it really doesn't make sense logistically, but do it.
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KirkChandler 3/28/2017 5:36pm
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McGrath Invitational and XGames Supercross was held at the Home Depot Center which was a soccer stadium (Now Chargers temporary home).
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kzizok 3/28/2017 5:55pm
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College football stadiums, as options, has always intrigued me. For a lot of reasons. But, the big desirable ones probably wouldnt do it because they would be the few exceptions where their schools actually make money. Not withstanding, many of them are considered sacred ground. But, if they would, the landscape of supercross could really change/improve.
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RG1 wrote:
Although 19,000 is obviously too small, a smaller stadium could actually be better in some cases. You see some of the bigger stadiums with a lot...
Although 19,000 is obviously too small, a smaller stadium could actually be better in some cases. You see some of the bigger stadiums with a lot of empty seats, you'd probably get a better vibe and atmosphere in a packed out smaller stadium
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Although I've been to some rounds without a very full crowd, that's definitely too small. Also, those stadiums have a very low seating deck at more...
Although I've been to some rounds without a very full crowd, that's definitely too small. Also, those stadiums have a very low seating deck at more of an angle. Most of those seats wouldn't be able to see over the jump in front of them. Very few of those 19,000 seats would be worth watching from.
The Rapids stadium would be the worst option in Denver. Middle of nowhere, shallow angles, and small capacity. I'd love to see one at Coors Field though. It'd be a nice change of pace to hit a baseball stadium mid season. Weather is impossible to predict here so they'll never do it. God forbid the dirt gets wet and professionals have to ride it.
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aeffertz 3/28/2017 5:59pm
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That would require more dirt. They tracks could be better and bigger if they just trucked in some more dirt in the existing stadiums but that obviously cost more money. If only we could get more dirt!

Spending other people's money is a lot easier, I know, but still...
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I think most of the soccer stadiums have natural grass while football mostly have artificial turf and I bet it's more expensive to restore the natural grass field.
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kzizok wrote:
College football stadiums, as options, has always intrigued me. For a lot of reasons. But, the big desirable ones probably wouldnt do it because they would...
College football stadiums, as options, has always intrigued me. For a lot of reasons. But, the big desirable ones probably wouldnt do it because they would be the few exceptions where their schools actually make money. Not withstanding, many of them are considered sacred ground. But, if they would, the landscape of supercross could really change/improve.
It would be awesome if they could hold the final round of supercross at one

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kzizok wrote:
College football stadiums, as options, has always intrigued me. For a lot of reasons. But, the big desirable ones probably wouldnt do it because they would...
College football stadiums, as options, has always intrigued me. For a lot of reasons. But, the big desirable ones probably wouldnt do it because they would be the few exceptions where their schools actually make money. Not withstanding, many of them are considered sacred ground. But, if they would, the landscape of supercross could really change/improve.
The only problem with that is the big desirable stadiums seat upwards of 100,000 people. Even if they got 50,000 people to come out, the stadium is still a ghost town.
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Rockinar 3/28/2017 6:18pm
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Using domes guarantees the even goes on no matter the weather. Also nobody is the US watches soccer. They don't hold many seats.
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kzizok 3/28/2017 6:45pm
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kzizok wrote:
College football stadiums, as options, has always intrigued me. For a lot of reasons. But, the big desirable ones probably wouldnt do it because they would...
College football stadiums, as options, has always intrigued me. For a lot of reasons. But, the big desirable ones probably wouldnt do it because they would be the few exceptions where their schools actually make money. Not withstanding, many of them are considered sacred ground. But, if they would, the landscape of supercross could really change/improve.
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The only problem with that is the big desirable stadiums seat upwards of 100,000 people. Even if they got 50,000 people to come out, the stadium...
The only problem with that is the big desirable stadiums seat upwards of 100,000 people. Even if they got 50,000 people to come out, the stadium is still a ghost town.
This is true. But Ive always thought, that if they could somewhow tie college football fan loyalty in with SX, then you might be on to something. Tie in the big rivalries, somehow (tOSU/Mich, OU/texass). In those types of rivalries, people would pack the house to watch their arch rivals lose at tiddlywinks!

I have no idea how to do it, but fans at places like Michigan, tOSU, Oklahoma, etc. chomp at the bit to get inside their stadiums in the off season (work around the spring games). The fanbase is already there, with a lot of deep pockets. Pipe dream, I know, but fun to think about.
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kzizok wrote:
College football stadiums, as options, has always intrigued me. For a lot of reasons. But, the big desirable ones probably wouldnt do it because they would...
College football stadiums, as options, has always intrigued me. For a lot of reasons. But, the big desirable ones probably wouldnt do it because they would be the few exceptions where their schools actually make money. Not withstanding, many of them are considered sacred ground. But, if they would, the landscape of supercross could really change/improve.
zookrider62! wrote:
It would be awesome if they could hold the final round of supercross at one
How about the next to the last round....at say U of U stadium in Salt Lake City?
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c3011 wrote:
I think most of the soccer stadiums have natural grass while football mostly have artificial turf and I bet it's more expensive to restore the natural...
I think most of the soccer stadiums have natural grass while football mostly have artificial turf and I bet it's more expensive to restore the natural grass field.
I think this probably has at least some influence on it.

When they built the "new" Seahawk stadium there was a huge issue because soccer leagues weren't playing on Field Turf at that time, and certainly not any World Cup games. It took a huge act to get them to even try it.

Baseball stadiums with grass generally have a longer time to "rehab" the grass than stadiums that host soccer teams.
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kzizok 3/28/2017 6:54pm
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Not much artifical turf left?
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kzizok wrote:
College football stadiums, as options, has always intrigued me. For a lot of reasons. But, the big desirable ones probably wouldnt do it because they would...
College football stadiums, as options, has always intrigued me. For a lot of reasons. But, the big desirable ones probably wouldnt do it because they would be the few exceptions where their schools actually make money. Not withstanding, many of them are considered sacred ground. But, if they would, the landscape of supercross could really change/improve.
zookrider62! wrote:
It would be awesome if they could hold the final round of supercross at one
Bultaco wrote:
How about the next to the last round....at say U of U stadium in Salt Lake City?
They already run the last round at a "college football stadium".......
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zookrider62! wrote:
It would be awesome if they could hold the final round of supercross at one
Bultaco wrote:
How about the next to the last round....at say U of U stadium in Salt Lake City?
APLMAN99 wrote:
They already run the last round at a "college football stadium".......
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Maybe they could build tracks out in large rolling fields without the constraints of walls or on top of concrete? Imagine how many people could show up if they weren't limited to set seating. Let the tracks run up and down and across the hills... the natural terrain could create tracks without any need for man made obstacles. You'd even save money on the cost of bringing in dirt and eliminate the need to remove dirt from stadiums and store it for 11.5 months.

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ga_pike wrote:
Maybe they could build tracks out in large rolling fields without the constraints of walls or on top of concrete? Imagine how many people could show...
Maybe they could build tracks out in large rolling fields without the constraints of walls or on top of concrete? Imagine how many people could show up if they weren't limited to set seating. Let the tracks run up and down and across the hills... the natural terrain could create tracks without any need for man made obstacles. You'd even save money on the cost of bringing in dirt and eliminate the need to remove dirt from stadiums and store it for 11.5 months.

Yeah, but what would they call it?
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ga_pike wrote:
Maybe they could build tracks out in large rolling fields without the constraints of walls or on top of concrete? Imagine how many people could show...
Maybe they could build tracks out in large rolling fields without the constraints of walls or on top of concrete? Imagine how many people could show up if they weren't limited to set seating. Let the tracks run up and down and across the hills... the natural terrain could create tracks without any need for man made obstacles. You'd even save money on the cost of bringing in dirt and eliminate the need to remove dirt from stadiums and store it for 11.5 months.

Worst idea ever. That'll never catch on
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