The best rider in history that never won a race

scottydogmx 11/17/2021 10:59am
11/17/2021 10:59am
scottydogmx wrote:
Steve Ramon Won the world championship but didn't win a race that year? Also a mention about Searles time in the mx1 class after showing Herlings...
Steve Ramon
Won the world championship but didn't win a race that year?
Also a mention about Searles time in the mx1 class after showing Herlings a clean set of heels on more than one occasion during the mx2 class
keinz wrote:
Nop, Ramon won two races and took world title, despite not winning a single Grand Prix that year,
Yep, I wasn't sure whether it was races or grand prix , I just remember Coppins being quite bitter about it on an interview.
Coppins was definitely the dominant rider that year until that unfortunate accident.
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Boomslang 11/17/2021 11:02am
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Guy Cooper is a awesome dude who came up short in the 250 (2T) era SX.
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davis224 wrote:
Did Metcalfe seriously never win a 250/125 race? I could have sworn he did.
Metcalfe won 450 Southwick.

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deanwhite51 11/17/2021 12:45pm
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FWYT wrote:
Looks like Michael Byrne, then?
robbiescrubs wrote:
Nope. If Podiums is the determining factor, Jim Gibson is the man. (Again - all results taken from Racer X Vault individual races so considers only...
Nope. If Podiums is the determining factor, Jim Gibson is the man.

(Again - all results taken from Racer X Vault individual races so considers only AMA overall wins)




251 Racers compared to to 71 speaks volume though.
Byrner was around a long time and was always in the mix.. thats a long time to be upfront and to have never won a race.

Especially the teams he was part of Byrner. He was always on the big factory teams with championship winning team mates
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OldManIdaho 11/17/2021 1:06pm
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Heath Voss gets my vote. Top ten guy for years and years.
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early 11/17/2021 1:16pm
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Jeff Liesk might have the best average finish without an overall win. Apparently he won a 125 moto in 1987 but I can't find the specific result.
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Johnny Ringo 11/17/2021 2:44pm
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davis224 wrote:
Did Metcalfe seriously never win a 250/125 race? I could have sworn he did.
nrosso391 wrote:
Metcalfe won 450 Southwick.
We’ve established that
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berno929 11/17/2021 4:52pm
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FWYT wrote:
Looks like Michael Byrne, then?
robbiescrubs wrote:
Nope. If Podiums is the determining factor, Jim Gibson is the man. (Again - all results taken from Racer X Vault individual races so considers only...
Nope. If Podiums is the determining factor, Jim Gibson is the man.

(Again - all results taken from Racer X Vault individual races so considers only AMA overall wins)




Heath Voss' stats in the Vault are split between Heath Voss and Heath D Voss. He's done more than 86 races...
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olderandYZer 11/17/2021 5:17pm
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UpTiTe wrote:
Myerscough was super fast, I got to watch him in 79 and 80, and rode with him in 81. He was super fast and had a...
Myerscough was super fast, I got to watch him in 79 and 80, and rode with him in 81. He was super fast and had a super clean style. It’s a shame he got sick.
APLMAN99 wrote:
I was fairly young when Myerscough was coming up, but didn’t he first get sick before he turned pro? I thought that he had been sick...
I was fairly young when Myerscough was coming up, but didn’t he first get sick before he turned pro? I thought that he had been sick just as he was getting off minis, then fought back to make it again but when his blood issue returned it was worse and he didn’t recover to the same level.

I remember an MXA story about him destroying all the top guys at Mammoth one year and the story sounded pretty freaking heroic.
UpTiTe wrote:
I was a little young to get to know him when he was on minis. I got to know him a little in 81, he wasn’t...
I was a little young to get to know him when he was on minis. I got to know him a little in 81, he wasn’t racing, but he would ride sometimes with the Suzuki guys, and I rode with them. I know in 81 when he rode, he wasn’t able to ride full motos.
He may have won 2 nationals, but he also had that much talent and was cut down short before he could achieve all he could.

Just the way the dice rolls sometimes
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Kulpa 11/18/2021 1:19pm
11/18/2021 1:19pm Edited Date/Time 11/18/2021 3:23pm
original post was about AMA PRO race - has Trampas Parker won an AMA Pro race?
I think he has one 125SX podium, one or two full AMA seasons, but he is 2 time world champion and an AMA Hall of Famer
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inthebadboycorner 11/18/2021 2:14pm
11/18/2021 2:14pm
robbiescrubs wrote:
From Racer X Vault. Just used the "Individual Races" tab which is based on Overall results for both MX and SX in all classes [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/11/16/518662/s1200_Capture.jpg[/img]
From Racer X Vault. Just used the "Individual Races" tab which is based on Overall results for both MX and SX in all classes



A very short career by Burnsworth!
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FWYT wrote:
Looks like Michael Byrne, then?
robbiescrubs wrote:
Nope. If Podiums is the determining factor, Jim Gibson is the man. (Again - all results taken from Racer X Vault individual races so considers only...
Nope. If Podiums is the determining factor, Jim Gibson is the man.

(Again - all results taken from Racer X Vault individual races so considers only AMA overall wins)




Two Aussies on the podium but not the top spot.

Looks like Australia is the best country to not win the never won a race category 😂

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