Yoshimura flat pedals

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I only have one experience with flats. I flew to denver and I was renting a bike, and I forgot my shoes at home, so I had the shop put flats on the bike. I rode maybe a mile out of the shop, turned around and went back. I said I can't do this, and bought a pair of shoes. Yeah I know, cool starry bra.
Flats definitely have a place, but that is not on my bikes.
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ti473 wrote:
I only have one experience with flats. I flew to denver and I was renting a bike, and I forgot my shoes at home, so I...
I only have one experience with flats. I flew to denver and I was renting a bike, and I forgot my shoes at home, so I had the shop put flats on the bike. I rode maybe a mile out of the shop, turned around and went back. I said I can't do this, and bought a pair of shoes. Yeah I know, cool starry bra.
Flats definitely have a place, but that is not on my bikes.
Every time I bang through a rock garden, I'm with you.

Then, every time I fall over because I get stuck on a techy climb and can't unclip, I want flats. It happens way too often.
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Not buying until I see the dyno charts.
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UpTiTe wrote:
I take most of you don’t ride bmx?
Okay, I knew I wasn't crazy. I've had essentially these same exact pedals for years on my 20". THe Made in USA bit is cool though, so I like that.
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Indy mxer wrote:
Crap! I just bought new DMR's for my Stumpjumper. Would love to have the Yosh!
When they break, come on over!
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Big E, if these take off will you guys be branching out into other bicycle parts? I mean, I love my Crankbrothers stuff but if there...
Big E, if these take off will you guys be branching out into other bicycle parts? I mean, I love my Crankbrothers stuff but if there was a slew of Yosh product to compare it to, I'd most likely be spending my money with you instead.

I could easily see high-quality Yoshimura cranks, stems, bars, multi-tools...
Maybe! We don't want just move on to the next product. We want to make the best pedal we can. After we get these rolling and out and consumer feedback, we will look at other products. We want to make as much product here in the "muffler shop" we can. Not in any hurry though!
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Indy mxer wrote:
Crap! I just bought new DMR's for my Stumpjumper. Would love to have the Yosh!
Big E wrote:
When they break, come on over!
For sure.
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Nice looking pedals, I’d pay for those... I paid $100 for a set of Shimano Saint pedals. They will serve the purpose, but far from the...
Nice looking pedals, I’d pay for those...

I paid $100 for a set of Shimano Saint pedals. They will serve the purpose, but far from the quality of the Yosh ones.
I have always run clip-ins, but had a rough time on a new area we are riding and had to push up sections and there were tight switch backs, with cliffs on one side. Sketchy... so I bought a set of pedals and a pair of MTB shoes. Have yet to try them, I’ve been riding my dirt bikes too much. Lol



HOLY TIRE CLEARANCE, Batman!
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4/3/2020 4:23am Edited Date/Time 4/3/2020 4:24am
E, what was the reason for aluminum pins? I prefer composite flats, I usually buy Chromag Synth and OneUp, because rock strikes are more forgiving with them. Downfall is the pins will tear out of the composite body so I go through pedals frequently. I’d be happy with an aluminum pedal if the pins would shear off upon a major pedal strike rather than causing a crash, pins are replaceable. Does it work like that, or are the pins comparably strong like traditional steel pins?
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I just bought new RaceFace Chesters, 2 weeks too late for me...Would be cool if they offered plastics too; I find that the plastic pedals do...
I just bought new RaceFace Chesters, 2 weeks too late for me...Would be cool if they offered plastics too; I find that the plastic pedals do a better job of slipping off rocks when a pedal strike happens vs alloy which tend to grab on things. Plus plastic flats stay quieter

I was using an old pair of plastic Odyssey Jim C's with sealed bearings before the RaceFace.
Yes, saw those...My LBS didn't have the oneup's in stock so the Chester's will do.

I do have their dropper post and love it.
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I only run flat pedals and I've spent most of my time on saints or ht pedals but these yosh pedals look really cool. Definitely want to get my hands on a set.
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4/3/2020 8:35am
Stems next? Then cranks? Chain rings? I don't run flats but those do look bad ass.
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4/3/2020 8:43am Edited Date/Time 4/3/2020 8:45am
Based on what I know, this type of manufacturing is easy to get into once you have contacts overseas. So why not make a $10 pedal and sell for 10x.

Here is what I run, thin and light. Go factory and get the magnesium!

https://canfieldbikes.com/collections/pedals/products/canfield-bikes-cr…
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Buzzard167 wrote:
I only run flat pedals and I've spent most of my time on saints or ht pedals but these yosh pedals look really cool. Definitely want...
I only run flat pedals and I've spent most of my time on saints or ht pedals but these yosh pedals look really cool. Definitely want to get my hands on a set.
If you like those pedals you will LOVE ours!
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E, what was the reason for aluminum pins? I prefer composite flats, I usually buy Chromag Synth and OneUp, because rock strikes are more forgiving with...
E, what was the reason for aluminum pins? I prefer composite flats, I usually buy Chromag Synth and OneUp, because rock strikes are more forgiving with them. Downfall is the pins will tear out of the composite body so I go through pedals frequently. I’d be happy with an aluminum pedal if the pins would shear off upon a major pedal strike rather than causing a crash, pins are replaceable. Does it work like that, or are the pins comparably strong like traditional steel pins?
I would say two reasons
1. We wanted to make a performance pedals and shave weight wherever we could. 7075-T6 aluminum pins are our way to remove 40-50 grams per pedal. Steel pins are for sure more durable. When our pins get compromised hey shear off and they are easily removed. We sell them for .60 per pin.

2. Aluminum pins allow us to really do some custom colors. You can orer your pedal from our site with the pin color you want. We will build them and ship them!

Here is a new color we are going to do...SHHHHHH!

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4/3/2020 3:21pm
nytsmaC wrote:
E, what was the reason for aluminum pins? I prefer composite flats, I usually buy Chromag Synth and OneUp, because rock strikes are more forgiving with...
E, what was the reason for aluminum pins? I prefer composite flats, I usually buy Chromag Synth and OneUp, because rock strikes are more forgiving with them. Downfall is the pins will tear out of the composite body so I go through pedals frequently. I’d be happy with an aluminum pedal if the pins would shear off upon a major pedal strike rather than causing a crash, pins are replaceable. Does it work like that, or are the pins comparably strong like traditional steel pins?
You need shorter cranks
4/3/2020 3:25pm
YamaLink wrote:
Moto_Geek wrote:
Based on what I know, this type of manufacturing is easy to get into once you have contacts overseas. So why not make a $10 pedal...
Based on what I know, this type of manufacturing is easy to get into once you have contacts overseas. So why not make a $10 pedal and sell for 10x.

Here is what I run, thin and light. Go factory and get the magnesium!

https://canfieldbikes.com/collections/pedals/products/canfield-bikes-cr…
They are terrrible. Bushes wear fast, theyre slippery.They went on my sons dirt jumper. Convex shape is sketchy for a pedal.
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nytsmaC wrote:
E, what was the reason for aluminum pins? I prefer composite flats, I usually buy Chromag Synth and OneUp, because rock strikes are more forgiving with...
E, what was the reason for aluminum pins? I prefer composite flats, I usually buy Chromag Synth and OneUp, because rock strikes are more forgiving with them. Downfall is the pins will tear out of the composite body so I go through pedals frequently. I’d be happy with an aluminum pedal if the pins would shear off upon a major pedal strike rather than causing a crash, pins are replaceable. Does it work like that, or are the pins comparably strong like traditional steel pins?
You need shorter cranks
Already running 170’s, I’m a hefty 6’5 and need all the leverage I can get for the climbs, don’t want to go shorter than that. Pedal strikes are user error, it’s because I suck. I’ve hit the ground a few times due to unexpected ones lately and I’d rather just mangle a pedal.
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nytsmaC wrote:
E, what was the reason for aluminum pins? I prefer composite flats, I usually buy Chromag Synth and OneUp, because rock strikes are more forgiving with...
E, what was the reason for aluminum pins? I prefer composite flats, I usually buy Chromag Synth and OneUp, because rock strikes are more forgiving with them. Downfall is the pins will tear out of the composite body so I go through pedals frequently. I’d be happy with an aluminum pedal if the pins would shear off upon a major pedal strike rather than causing a crash, pins are replaceable. Does it work like that, or are the pins comparably strong like traditional steel pins?
You need shorter cranks
nytsmaC wrote:
Already running 170’s, I’m a hefty 6’5 and need all the leverage I can get for the climbs, don’t want to go shorter than that. Pedal...
Already running 170’s, I’m a hefty 6’5 and need all the leverage I can get for the climbs, don’t want to go shorter than that. Pedal strikes are user error, it’s because I suck. I’ve hit the ground a few times due to unexpected ones lately and I’d rather just mangle a pedal.
If your 6'5'' you need 175mm cranks. You are not taking advantage of the torque in those long legs!
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4/3/2020 6:25pm Edited Date/Time 4/3/2020 6:30pm
nytsmaC wrote:
E, what was the reason for aluminum pins? I prefer composite flats, I usually buy Chromag Synth and OneUp, because rock strikes are more forgiving with...
E, what was the reason for aluminum pins? I prefer composite flats, I usually buy Chromag Synth and OneUp, because rock strikes are more forgiving with them. Downfall is the pins will tear out of the composite body so I go through pedals frequently. I’d be happy with an aluminum pedal if the pins would shear off upon a major pedal strike rather than causing a crash, pins are replaceable. Does it work like that, or are the pins comparably strong like traditional steel pins?
You need shorter cranks
nytsmaC wrote:
Already running 170’s, I’m a hefty 6’5 and need all the leverage I can get for the climbs, don’t want to go shorter than that. Pedal...
Already running 170’s, I’m a hefty 6’5 and need all the leverage I can get for the climbs, don’t want to go shorter than that. Pedal strikes are user error, it’s because I suck. I’ve hit the ground a few times due to unexpected ones lately and I’d rather just mangle a pedal.
Im 6’2 going to 165mm cranks now. We have loads of technical climbing combined with a low BB, im hating it. It really is underrated having the ability to pedal over rocks with having to stall a crank revolution.
I feel BB height dictates crank length more than rider height.
BigE if you are searching for a Distributor for the oceanic region my friend owns one of the larger distributers here and their service is top notch. Just fix that exchange rate first!! Its hurting
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Nice looking pedals, I’d pay for those... I paid $100 for a set of Shimano Saint pedals. They will serve the purpose, but far from the...
Nice looking pedals, I’d pay for those...

I paid $100 for a set of Shimano Saint pedals. They will serve the purpose, but far from the quality of the Yosh ones.
I have always run clip-ins, but had a rough time on a new area we are riding and had to push up sections and there were tight switch backs, with cliffs on one side. Sketchy... so I bought a set of pedals and a pair of MTB shoes. Have yet to try them, I’ve been riding my dirt bikes too much. Lol



Big E wrote:
Man, you would love our Chilao Pedal. Its almost 150 grams lighter, has more grip and our spindle has resilience.
Twist my arm.... Whistling
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Nice looking pedals, I’d pay for those... I paid $100 for a set of Shimano Saint pedals. They will serve the purpose, but far from the...
Nice looking pedals, I’d pay for those...

I paid $100 for a set of Shimano Saint pedals. They will serve the purpose, but far from the quality of the Yosh ones.
I have always run clip-ins, but had a rough time on a new area we are riding and had to push up sections and there were tight switch backs, with cliffs on one side. Sketchy... so I bought a set of pedals and a pair of MTB shoes. Have yet to try them, I’ve been riding my dirt bikes too much. Lol



Id keep an eye on that tire rub on your frame.....
Damn... I had to go take a look at that. Never noticed that when I took the pic.
Ends up it’s just dirt and an optical illusion-



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nytsmaC wrote:
E, what was the reason for aluminum pins? I prefer composite flats, I usually buy Chromag Synth and OneUp, because rock strikes are more forgiving with...
E, what was the reason for aluminum pins? I prefer composite flats, I usually buy Chromag Synth and OneUp, because rock strikes are more forgiving with them. Downfall is the pins will tear out of the composite body so I go through pedals frequently. I’d be happy with an aluminum pedal if the pins would shear off upon a major pedal strike rather than causing a crash, pins are replaceable. Does it work like that, or are the pins comparably strong like traditional steel pins?
Big E wrote:
I would say two reasons 1. We wanted to make a performance pedals and shave weight wherever we could. 7075-T6 aluminum pins are our way to...
I would say two reasons
1. We wanted to make a performance pedals and shave weight wherever we could. 7075-T6 aluminum pins are our way to remove 40-50 grams per pedal. Steel pins are for sure more durable. When our pins get compromised hey shear off and they are easily removed. We sell them for .60 per pin.

2. Aluminum pins allow us to really do some custom colors. You can orer your pedal from our site with the pin color you want. We will build them and ship them!

Here is a new color we are going to do...SHHHHHH!

I'm surprised you guys haven't made rad foot pegs like ProMoto Billet.
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4/4/2020 12:15am Edited Date/Time 4/4/2020 4:41am
It's a pity Yosh couldn't have been more innovative than just aluminium pins. Yes, it should mean you'll be able to get them out when they are bent / worn ( softer grade pin / bolt, in a much harder grade pedal body, I assume). But, there are better ways / pins to be had that don't present removal problems. So, to me, it's just the weight E puts forward, as a benefit.

For me, it's all about the thinnest pedals I can find. I've knees that barely bend, so short cranks, and a pedal top as close to the center line of the axle, is what I Need . Thinner pedals also have much less tendency to 'roll over' on you. I have never, never been able to use clipless pedals, because of destroyed knees, since my Teenage years. I Wish I could use them, but, much of my time, I'm pedaling on one, or both, of my heels. . I wish I could still use longer cranks than the 160 / 165s I have to use now - I used 200/203s with big gears, decades ago in BMX. I've never been a 'spinner'. Heck, I'm about to get some 155s from Canfields, such is the bend limit my knees have now Sad

I've used Canfields, as they were one of the first to go to very thin pedals. I accepted their bearing and bushing wear rates to have something so thin - thinness doesn't give you much room for HD bearings and bushes. But, regular maintenance, sorts that. The convex profile to them takes some getting used to, though.

I mostly use One Up Alloys now. They've been great - thin, and durable. I'd like to try composite ones, for what is said their less 'grabby' nature on rocks ( I live in Sandstone Rock Central) , but the extra thickness, vetoes their use for me.

I wish Tiogas Zero Axle Pedals were made so they didn't have the disclaimer on their paperwork saying: " this Product ...... Is Not designed and Should Not be used for Downhill, Freeride, Freestyle, Dirt Jumping or BMX. Do Not use for Stationary or Exercise Cycles"

Now, if you read most warnings for even the most highly touted pedals ( or, other products), you'll usually, to your surprise, see caveats / disclaimers like those. But even Stationary or Exercise Cycles?????? Bloody Hell. Covering their arses as much as possible.... I've used the Tiogas for a few years now, in all sorts of nasty usages, and, they are yet to fail. But, I did replace the OEM bolts that held the Axle 'bolt' Assembly to the Pedal Body. People were having them break, all to often. But, for genuinely hard use, it's the One Ups that are put on.

I 'know' just a bit about bicycles / engineering. Here's one of my long wheelbase / long reach 20"ers I made in 1980 / 81, when I came back to BMX after losing my kneecap, and shattering my leg. I've 4 more of my 'experiments' in length, - sequestered with a mate whose got most of my protoypes / examples of frames I've made over the decades - each one an Inch step up from each other, over this one, made in that period. But, this was the first I really made quite a bit longer than the standards of that time :

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I've got the old DX cranks on, because I can run them at the length of 165mm. The DX pedals in those pictures, I've used now , on and off, for near on 40 years...

I came back from that dreadful injury, mainly racing my Cruisers, but made the long 20"ers so as not to sit around all day. I could still make Pro Mains on the 20s, but I could Win Pro Cruiser Mains. Conventional 20"ers, were just so bloody short, once you went to a Cruiser, in those days.

I've made Bicycle and Motorcycle frames, for just on 5 decades now.

Something I've up in my Jig, right now : a Pinion Gearboxed DHer I'm trying to get finished before another operation, on Wednesday. Not. Going. To. Happen, I'm afraid. Ho Hum, my 'test' rider(s) can just bloody well wait....... I'm Always the first one to ride My frames Woohoo






But, back to the Yoshimura Pedals - hell guys, I'm sure you could make something genuinely innovative. They are, quite beautiful, that's for sure. I hope you've got far more to come, in the pipeline, and it's not just a 'passion project', or, indulgence.
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I could have swore that this was a thread about Yosh pedals🤦‍♂️
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TeamGreen wrote:
Anyone ever look at Time or Look road-bike pedals? Laughing
I have Look pedals on my road bike and MTB (I use the same shoes).
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seth505 wrote:
There are lots of applications other than a bmx racing track.Smile
UpTiTe wrote:
My point is this style peddle is nothing new.
seth505 wrote:
True in a general sense. Flat pedals range from trash to awesome. Shape, length/width/thickness, pin placement, pin height, pin width. It all contributes to pedals that...
True in a general sense. Flat pedals range from trash to awesome. Shape, length/width/thickness, pin placement, pin height, pin width. It all contributes to pedals that feel great or feel like junk.
A good shoe with a tacky sole helps.
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Big E wrote:
I would say two reasons 1. We wanted to make a performance pedals and shave weight wherever we could. 7075-T6 aluminum pins are our way to...
I would say two reasons
1. We wanted to make a performance pedals and shave weight wherever we could. 7075-T6 aluminum pins are our way to remove 40-50 grams per pedal. Steel pins are for sure more durable. When our pins get compromised hey shear off and they are easily removed. We sell them for .60 per pin.

2. Aluminum pins allow us to really do some custom colors. You can orer your pedal from our site with the pin color you want. We will build them and ship them!

Here is a new color we are going to do...SHHHHHH!

Consider me sold!

I’m in the process of adding some bling to my Bronson. If you can’t go fast, look fast. It would be cool to buy a group of products that all match as a kit. Example, pedals, seat clamp, and bar mount. Find parts that have common sizes among brands (performance/non performance) and sell with a performance product.
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