Finally, an affordable Yamaha intake. . .

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

Yes I know, I didn't say to mount a turbo or supercharger on the number plate. I'm talking about forced air by means of guiding the...

Yes I know, I didn't say to mount a turbo or supercharger on the number plate. I'm talking about forced air by means of guiding the airflow into the scoop.

Airflow matters, especially cold air from the front.

lostboy819 wrote:

You must have gone to MMI because I have not seen anyone so clueless when it comes to how things work. You could build all the...

You must have gone to MMI because I have not seen anyone so clueless when it comes to how things work. You could build all the duct work and vents you want on a MX bike but it will never have a ram air effect, now move more air to cool the bike through oil coolers or radiator's but a MX bike will never have even close to the speeds to get a ram air effect. The engine will pull in all the air it needs and but it wont help to run ducts or vents to try to ram air into the airbox. And venting and ducts is not forced air, a turbo is forced air and so is a supercharger but your goofy idea wont make any difference is what is called ram air and its a catch phrase for suckers like you in the automotive industry to try to sell cold air intakes and hood systems.

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

You are simply trying to back track with a play on words acting as if I said to mount a turbo or supercharge to the number...

You are simply trying to back track with a play on words acting as if I said to mount a turbo or supercharge to the number plate (cute amazon fan). If I thought your farm was worth anything I would bet mine against yours that guided air from the front into the scoop would increase power at speed whether it be from ducts or guided air through forms in the front number plate. Not sure how much power, but definitely a power increase due to the ram air effect.

I guess VRP Mugen did all this very difficult fabrication work nothing:

lostboy819 wrote:

You must have gone to MMI because I have not seen anyone so clueless when it comes to how things work. You could build all the...

You must have gone to MMI because I have not seen anyone so clueless when it comes to how things work. You could build all the duct work and vents you want on a MX bike but it will never have a ram air effect, now move more air to cool the bike through oil coolers or radiator's but a MX bike will never have even close to the speeds to get a ram air effect. The engine will pull in all the air it needs and but it wont help to run ducts or vents to try to ram air into the airbox. And venting and ducts is not forced air, a turbo is forced air and so is a supercharger but your goofy idea wont make any difference is what is called ram air and its a catch phrase for suckers like you in the automotive industry to try to sell cold air intakes and hood systems.

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

You are simply trying to back track with a play on words acting as if I said to mount a turbo or supercharge to the number...

You are simply trying to back track with a play on words acting as if I said to mount a turbo or supercharge to the number plate (cute amazon fan). If I thought your farm was worth anything I would bet mine against yours that guided air from the front into the scoop would increase power at speed whether it be from ducts or guided air through forms in the front number plate. Not sure how much power, but definitely a power increase due to the ram air effect.

I guess VRP Mugen did all this very difficult fabrication work nothing:

lostboy819 wrote:

You are a idiot, you WILL NEVER GET A RAM AIR INDUCTION BENNIFIT ON A MX BIKE. unless you are going about 230mph, It don't matter...

You are a idiot, you WILL NEVER GET A RAM AIR INDUCTION BENNIFIT ON A MX BIKE. unless you are going about 230mph, It don't matter how many straight cold air intakes you have going to the airbox because you will never have even close to the speeds for it to work. Sad part is you are too stupid to even know how dumb you sound. Call Bear at https://www.dyno-pro.com/ and maybe he can explain it so even you can understand. You can take those same ducts that you want to run to the front of the bike to ram in the cooler air and run them to the back of the bike instead and it will make the same amount of power.

"Ram air induction is the forced induction of flow due to air flow being compressed (pressurized) into an inlet from the conversion of kinetic energy (velocity). Air is considered incompressible below speeds of about Mach 0.3 or 230 mph."

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

You are simply trying to back track with a play on words acting as if I said to mount a turbo or supercharge to the number...

You are simply trying to back track with a play on words acting as if I said to mount a turbo or supercharge to the number plate (cute amazon fan). If I thought your farm was worth anything I would bet mine against yours that guided air from the front into the scoop would increase power at speed whether it be from ducts or guided air through forms in the front number plate. Not sure how much power, but definitely a power increase due to the ram air effect.

I guess VRP Mugen did all this very difficult fabrication work nothing:

lostboy819 wrote:

You are a idiot, you WILL NEVER GET A RAM AIR INDUCTION BENNIFIT ON A MX BIKE. unless you are going about 230mph, It don't matter...

You are a idiot, you WILL NEVER GET A RAM AIR INDUCTION BENNIFIT ON A MX BIKE. unless you are going about 230mph, It don't matter how many straight cold air intakes you have going to the airbox because you will never have even close to the speeds for it to work. Sad part is you are too stupid to even know how dumb you sound. Call Bear at https://www.dyno-pro.com/ and maybe he can explain it so even you can understand. You can take those same ducts that you want to run to the front of the bike to ram in the cooler air and run them to the back of the bike instead and it will make the same amount of power.

"Ram air induction is the forced induction of flow due to air flow being compressed (pressurized) into an inlet from the conversion of kinetic energy (velocity). Air is considered incompressible below speeds of about Mach 0.3 or 230 mph."

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

Keep it up with your play on words all you want, it's about as effective as your all caps...hahahahaa

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

Keep it up with your play on words all you want, it's about as effective as your all caps...hahahahaa

lostboy819 wrote:

You must have gone to MMI because I have not seen anyone so clueless when it comes to how things work. You could build all the...

You must have gone to MMI because I have not seen anyone so clueless when it comes to how things work. You could build all the duct work and vents you want on a MX bike but it will never have a ram air effect, now move more air to cool the bike through oil coolers or radiator's but a MX bike will never have even close to the speeds to get a ram air effect. The engine will pull in all the air it needs and but it wont help to run ducts or vents to try to ram air into the airbox. And venting and ducts is not forced air, a turbo is forced air and so is a supercharger but your goofy idea wont make any difference is what is called ram air and its a catch phrase for suckers like you in the automotive industry to try to sell cold air intakes and hood systems.

lostboy819 wrote:

You must have gone to MMI because I have not seen anyone so clueless when it comes to how things work. You could build all the...

You must have gone to MMI because I have not seen anyone so clueless when it comes to how things work. You could build all the duct work and vents you want on a MX bike but it will never have a ram air effect, now move more air to cool the bike through oil coolers or radiator's but a MX bike will never have even close to the speeds to get a ram air effect. The engine will pull in all the air it needs and but it wont help to run ducts or vents to try to ram air into the airbox. And venting and ducts is not forced air, a turbo is forced air and so is a supercharger but your goofy idea wont make any difference is what is called ram air and its a catch phrase for suckers like you in the automotive industry to try to sell cold air intakes and hood systems.

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

You are simply trying to back track with a play on words acting as if I said to mount a turbo or supercharge to the number...

You are simply trying to back track with a play on words acting as if I said to mount a turbo or supercharge to the number plate (cute amazon fan). If I thought your farm was worth anything I would bet mine against yours that guided air from the front into the scoop would increase power at speed whether it be from ducts or guided air through forms in the front number plate. Not sure how much power, but definitely a power increase due to the ram air effect.

I guess VRP Mugen did all this very difficult fabrication work nothing:

lostboy819 wrote:

You are a idiot, you WILL NEVER GET A RAM AIR INDUCTION BENNIFIT ON A MX BIKE. unless you are going about 230mph, It don't matter...

You are a idiot, you WILL NEVER GET A RAM AIR INDUCTION BENNIFIT ON A MX BIKE. unless you are going about 230mph, It don't matter how many straight cold air intakes you have going to the airbox because you will never have even close to the speeds for it to work. Sad part is you are too stupid to even know how dumb you sound. Call Bear at https://www.dyno-pro.com/ and maybe he can explain it so even you can understand. You can take those same ducts that you want to run to the front of the bike to ram in the cooler air and run them to the back of the bike instead and it will make the same amount of power.

"Ram air induction is the forced induction of flow due to air flow being compressed (pressurized) into an inlet from the conversion of kinetic energy (velocity). Air is considered incompressible below speeds of about Mach 0.3 or 230 mph."

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

You are simply trying to back track with a play on words acting as if I said to mount a turbo or supercharge to the number...

You are simply trying to back track with a play on words acting as if I said to mount a turbo or supercharge to the number plate (cute amazon fan). If I thought your farm was worth anything I would bet mine against yours that guided air from the front into the scoop would increase power at speed whether it be from ducts or guided air through forms in the front number plate. Not sure how much power, but definitely a power increase due to the ram air effect.

I guess VRP Mugen did all this very difficult fabrication work nothing:

quadzrulebro wrote:

You know, a dyno test (on the same dyno, on the same day) with and without the scoop would put this debate to rest. It wouldn’t...

You know, a dyno test (on the same dyno, on the same day) with and without the scoop would put this debate to rest. It wouldn’t be hard to replicate a 30 mph headwind (the type of speed you are likely to encounter on a MX track) with a fan. Just sayin’…

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

You are simply trying to back track with a play on words acting as if I said to mount a turbo or supercharge to the number...

You are simply trying to back track with a play on words acting as if I said to mount a turbo or supercharge to the number plate (cute amazon fan). If I thought your farm was worth anything I would bet mine against yours that guided air from the front into the scoop would increase power at speed whether it be from ducts or guided air through forms in the front number plate. Not sure how much power, but definitely a power increase due to the ram air effect.

I guess VRP Mugen did all this very difficult fabrication work nothing:

llaliberte22 wrote:

I think you lost yourself trying to defend yourself instead of just admitting you were wrong. All you talk about is airflow, not ram air. Those...

I think you lost yourself trying to defend yourself instead of just admitting you were wrong.

All you talk about is airflow, not ram air.

Those vent and side number plate hole help the engine suck that air in in the intake stroke by having a easier time "finding" air to suck in. Basic understanding of a completely sealed airbox vs no restriction at all.

Those vent at MX speed won't do shit when the valve open, it won't forced more air to enter the combustion chamber. You won't have more air than what the engine is sucking by itself, you need crazy speed to do so.

Those Yamaha vent could face backwards and I'm ready to bet a lot of money that you would get the same results as the one facing forward. It is just more aesthetic, look cool and act as snake oil to catch some fish like you

Again, basic hole drilled into the cover would do the exact same job. It is just not aesthetical

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

Yes I know, I didn't say to mount a turbo or supercharger on the number plate. I'm talking about forced air by means of guiding the...

Yes I know, I didn't say to mount a turbo or supercharger on the number plate. I'm talking about forced air by means of guiding the airflow into the scoop.

Airflow matters, especially cold air from the front.

lostboy819 wrote:

You must have gone to MMI because I have not seen anyone so clueless when it comes to how things work. You could build all the...

You must have gone to MMI because I have not seen anyone so clueless when it comes to how things work. You could build all the duct work and vents you want on a MX bike but it will never have a ram air effect, now move more air to cool the bike through oil coolers or radiator's but a MX bike will never have even close to the speeds to get a ram air effect. The engine will pull in all the air it needs and but it wont help to run ducts or vents to try to ram air into the airbox. And venting and ducts is not forced air, a turbo is forced air and so is a supercharger but your goofy idea wont make any difference is what is called ram air and its a catch phrase for suckers like you in the automotive industry to try to sell cold air intakes and hood systems.

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

You are simply trying to back track with a play on words acting as if I said to mount a turbo or supercharge to the number...

You are simply trying to back track with a play on words acting as if I said to mount a turbo or supercharge to the number plate (cute amazon fan). If I thought your farm was worth anything I would bet mine against yours that guided air from the front into the scoop would increase power at speed whether it be from ducts or guided air through forms in the front number plate. Not sure how much power, but definitely a power increase due to the ram air effect.

I guess VRP Mugen did all this very difficult fabrication work nothing:

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

You are simply trying to back track with a play on words acting as if I said to mount a turbo or supercharge to the number...

You are simply trying to back track with a play on words acting as if I said to mount a turbo or supercharge to the number plate (cute amazon fan). If I thought your farm was worth anything I would bet mine against yours that guided air from the front into the scoop would increase power at speed whether it be from ducts or guided air through forms in the front number plate. Not sure how much power, but definitely a power increase due to the ram air effect.

I guess VRP Mugen did all this very difficult fabrication work nothing:

Christopher Moore wrote:

You can get a quality Slatter skin airbox cover for $80 and it’s been proven to have gains.

Christopher Moore wrote:

You can get a quality Slatter skin airbox cover for $80 and it’s been proven to have gains.

JM485 wrote:

Again, thanks to everyone for the interest. I have no further comment on Ram Air Gate but it’s been a fun ride

Heggo wrote:

Why do they need ? Already making the most HP and intake noise in both classes

colintrax wrote:

So a ram air provides the same effect as riding at 500-1000' lower elevation. Yeah probably useless for a C rider on a 450. But there...

So a ram air provides the same effect as riding at 500-1000' lower elevation. Yeah probably useless for a C rider on a 450. But there is some infinitesimal advantage. Of course the real objective with this scoop is it's a smooth transition for your balls...

Anyways looks good. I just finished prototyping a new idea last night, so I can appreciate the number of hours that go into just making the appearance look so good. Much less making a product that works to your own expectations.

colintrax wrote:

So a ram air provides the same effect as riding at 500-1000' lower elevation. Yeah probably useless for a C rider on a 450. But there...

So a ram air provides the same effect as riding at 500-1000' lower elevation. Yeah probably useless for a C rider on a 450. But there is some infinitesimal advantage. Of course the real objective with this scoop is it's a smooth transition for your balls...

Anyways looks good. I just finished prototyping a new idea last night, so I can appreciate the number of hours that go into just making the appearance look so good. Much less making a product that works to your own expectations.

colintrax wrote:

Can't edit my post but I double checked. Even an equivalent to a 500' decrease in elevation is optimistic at moto speeds.

Sachmo831 wrote:

This whole ram air debate is comical and missing the entire point. These vented airbox covers are meant to increase the airbox volume, allowing the engine...

This whole ram air debate is comical and missing the entire point. These vented airbox covers are meant to increase the airbox volume, allowing the engine to more easily draw in air. The filter sits very close to the cover and even tighter with the powerflow filter cage shown.
Props to the op on a good looking product. 👍

colintrax wrote:

Can't edit my post but I double checked. Even an equivalent to a 500' decrease in elevation is optimistic at moto speeds.

SilverSpurs wrote:

You are missing the point. It's not about 'ram air'. It's about ensuring the inlet gets clean airflow to assure positive pressure, rather than disturbed, turbulent...

You are missing the point.
It's not about 'ram air'. It's about ensuring the inlet gets clean airflow to assure positive pressure, rather than disturbed, turbulent flow that can have the air going the wrong way.😏