Fox News hosts called 2020 election fraud 'total BS' in private

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Reading even Tucker Carlson knew the election fraud was BS just got my weekend off to a great start. 

 

Fox News anchors and producers privately acknowledged that former President Donald Trump and his allies' allegations of election fraud in the aftermath of the 2020 election were false despite their network's promotion of those claims, according to a new court filing by Dominion Voting Systems.

In a nearly 200-page document filed as part of its billion-dollar defamation suit against the network, Dominion Voting Systems shared emails, texts, testimony, and other private communications from Fox News personnel that cast doubt on claims that Dominion's voting machines had somehow rigged the presidential election in Joe Biden's favor.

The voting company is suing Fox News for $1.6 billion for allegedly defaming the company in the aftermath of the 2020 election.

"Fox knew," according to the filing, which cited excerpts of evidence gathered as part of the suit. "From the top down, Fox knew 'the Dominion stuff' was 'total BS.' Yet despite knowing the truth -- or at minimum, recklessly disregarding that truth -- Fox spread and endorsed these 'outlandish voter fraud claims' about Dominion even as it internally recognized the lies as 'crazy,' 'absurd,' and 'shockingly reckless.'"

Fox News, in a statement, said, "There will be a lot of noise and confusion generated by Dominion and their opportunistic private equity owners, but the core of this case remains about freedom of the press and freedom of speech, which are fundamental rights afforded by the Constitution and protected by New York Times v. Sullivan."

In its motion for summary judgment filed Thursday, Fox wrote that "statements Dominion challenges are not actionable defamation because Fox News' coverage and commentary are not only not defamatory, but also protected by the First Amendment and New York doctrines emanating from it."

"Dominion has come nowhere close to producing the 'clear and convincing' evidence that the relevant individuals at Fox News made or published any challenged statement with actual malice," the Fox motion said. 

In an amended counter claim, Fox News also called into question Dominion's damage claim, writing that "even under the most optimistic projections, Staple Street has never estimated Dominion’s value as a business to be anywhere near $1.6 billion." Staple street is the majority owner of Dominion.

Dominion's Thursday filing lays out its top evidence against Fox News, which Dominion claims pushed false accusations that the voting company had rigged the 2020 election, in order for the news channel to boost its rating and make a profit. The filing contains material Dominion has obtained via discovery from Fox News over the past few months, including text messages, internal emails, and depositions.

The court documents cite some of the network's top anchors and hosts, many of whom quietly shared misgivings about claims of election fraud and discussed how to address them on-air.

In mid-November 2020, host Tucker Carlson texted one of his producers that "there wasn't enough fraud to change the outcome" of the election, and later said that Sidney Powell, one of Trump's attorneys and a vocal promulgator of election denialism, "is lying."

Months later, on Jan. 6, Carlson called Trump "a demonic force, a destroyer," in a text message to the same producer.

MORE: Fox News' Sean Hannity set to be deposed as part of billion-dollar election lawsuit

Dana Perino, an anchor, called allegations of voter fraud against Dominion "total bs," "insane," and "nonsense."

In some cases, Fox News personnel raised red flags internally about their own colleagues. After host Maria Bartiromo tweeted about election fraud on Nov. 5, anchor Bret Baier pleaded to a network executive, "We have to prevent this stuff ... We need to fact check."

The Fox suit is one of several lawsuits launched by the Denver-based voting company after it became the center of far-reaching false conspiracy theories surrounding its involvement in the 2020 election, fueled largely by right-wing figures close to then-President Trump as part of the effort to overturn the results of the election.

Among the Fox News hosts who were scheduled to be deposed in the suit were Carlson, Sean Hannity and Jeannine Pirro, as well as former Fox Business host Lou Dobbs.

"The critical issue here is the state of mind of Fox and those individual people," Floyd Abrams, one of the country's leading experts on First Amendment law, told ABC News last summer. "What did they say about Dominion, and did they believe it?"

"In order for Dominion to win, it has to show that what was said was not just false, but that it was known or suspected to be false," Abrams said.

In a statement issued in response to the suit, Fox News officials said, "FOX News Media is proud of our 2020 election coverage, which stands in the highest tradition of American journalism, and will vigorously defend against this baseless lawsuit in court."

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2/17/2023 5:01am

Wait just a cotton picking second, now you trust and believe Fox News? 

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2/17/2023 5:20am
Muttly wrote:

Wait just a cotton picking second, now you trust and believe Fox News? 

This clown is right down there with straightjacket, as far as a mental cripple stemming from MSM brainwashing. 

Seriously,  look at the low intelligence level of his posts.

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2/17/2023 5:36am

This has already been covered. 
 

There is a difference between fraud and irregularities. You are conflating fraud with irregularities. 
 

There was no fraud. There are documented irregularities. 

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Sitting in my office doing  endless paperwork.

 

Went upstairs at the top of the hour.

Turned on the television. 

One channel was talking to residents displaced from the east Palestine disaster.

Another channel was touting a MAGAzine cartoon book with a caricature of the former president on the cover.

Real hard hitting journalism. 

🤣😂🤣

 

What channel do you think the OP is addicted to ???

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This clown is right down there with straightjacket, as far as a mental cripple stemming from MSM brainwashing.  Seriously,  look at the low intelligence level of...

This clown is right down there with straightjacket, as far as a mental cripple stemming from MSM brainwashing. 

Seriously,  look at the low intelligence level of his posts.

Careful Joey,,,,,,  they can be like a claymore.

 

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^ Boiyoyoing

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Sitting in my office doing  endless paperwork.   Went upstairs at the top of the hour. Turned on the television.  One channel was talking to residents...

Sitting in my office doing  endless paperwork.

 

Went upstairs at the top of the hour.

Turned on the television. 

One channel was talking to residents displaced from the east Palestine disaster.

Another channel was touting a MAGAzine cartoon book with a caricature of the former president on the cover.

Real hard hitting journalism. 

🤣😂🤣

 

What channel do you think the OP is addicted to ???

Try again since I don't own a TV nor do I watch CNN, MSNBC etc on line.   Get most of my news from outside the US outlets.

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This has already been covered.    There is a difference between fraud and irregularities. You are conflating fraud with irregularities.    There was no fraud. There...

This has already been covered. 
 

There is a difference between fraud and irregularities. You are conflating fraud with irregularities. 
 

There was no fraud. There are documented irregularities. 

Tell that to the Trump, the MAGA crowd and QAnon.  And I didn't know it was common knowledge Fox lied to their audience so am curious when did you become aware of this?   Next we will find out all the money Trump raised to investigate election fraud went to his businesses.... 

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2/17/2023 8:09am Edited Date/Time 2/17/2023 8:29am

Next let's talk about the other news team who says that a group of black cops murdered a black guy because of racism. 

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2/17/2023 8:41am

Next let's talk about the other news team who says that a group of black cops murdered a black guy because of racism. 

Yes let's post TDS memes and do anything except talk about the topic.   Deflect Deflect Deflect........

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2/17/2023 8:46am
Muttly wrote:

Wait just a cotton picking second, now you trust and believe Fox News? 

Only posted an article from Fox News to show them shamelessly trying to cover their tracks because they know they're going to lose the Smartmatic and Dominion election fraud lawsuits.  Same reason Fox lawyers thew Tucker under the bus.

Unfortunately, Murdoch has billions and will just pay the fines like the POS Sackler family did with the Purdue Pharma lawsuit.  Fines do nothing to change the minds of millions of people that have been fed a steady stream of misinformation from the Fox talking heads so still think the election was rigged and the guy who couldn't even run a casino actually won.

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2/17/2023 8:46am
This has already been covered.    There is a difference between fraud and irregularities. You are conflating fraud with irregularities.    There was no fraud. There...

This has already been covered. 
 

There is a difference between fraud and irregularities. You are conflating fraud with irregularities. 
 

There was no fraud. There are documented irregularities. 

Tell that to the Trump, the MAGA crowd and QAnon.  And I didn't know it was common knowledge Fox lied to their audience so am curious...

Tell that to the Trump, the MAGA crowd and QAnon.  And I didn't know it was common knowledge Fox lied to their audience so am curious when did you become aware of this?   Next we will find out all the money Trump raised to investigate election fraud went to his businesses.... 

If the DNC, and CNN, MSNBC, NBC, CBS, ABC, all lied Russia Gate, why should FOX be better?
 

Please explain Qanon. 

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2/17/2023 8:52am Edited Date/Time 2/17/2023 8:53am

Like so many here, never answer a question with an answer but with another question.  Deflection 101

To your second question, the only explanation I have for QAnon is either inbreeding and/or genetic mutations.   I am done with QAnon's whacko predictions that NEVER materialize.

 

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2/17/2023 8:54am Edited Date/Time 2/17/2023 8:55am

And, in Arizona, they were required to maintain records and voting machines for a period of time but deleted/ destroyed them.  Why?
 

Dominion said the machines didn’t have internet access but they have been found with internet access. 
 

There have been reports of people during elections with USBs with different codes. 
 

I don’t know if these things are true, I really hope this goes to discovery. 

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Fox isn’t disputing Dominion’s claim; their argument is that the 1st Amendment protects their right to publicly present information that they believe to be inaccurate or false. Dominion believes Fox’s actions were financially detrimental and has sued for damages. 
 

No matter how far off the handle Carlson or Combs may fly, proving malice with intent to harm is a very high bar. Fox labels these guys as entertainment, not journalism, for a reason. 
 

End result is likely an out-of-court settlement. Dominion ain’t getting $1B+, and Fox doesn’t wanna chance it. Either way, lawyers on both sides are the winners!

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2/17/2023 8:56am
Like so many here, never answer a question with an answer but with another question.  Deflection 101 To your second question, the only explanation I have...

Like so many here, never answer a question with an answer but with another question.  Deflection 101

To your second question, the only explanation I have for QAnon is either inbreeding and/or genetic mutations.   I am done with QAnon's whacko predictions that NEVER materialize.

 

You are gaslighting. 
 

Nobody except liberals knows anything about qanon. 

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2/17/2023 8:58am
LoudLove wrote:
Fox isn’t disputing Dominion’s claim; their argument is that the 1st Amendment protects their right to publicly present information that they believe to be inaccurate or...

Fox isn’t disputing Dominion’s claim; their argument is that the 1st Amendment protects their right to publicly present information that they believe to be inaccurate or false. Dominion believes Fox’s actions were financially detrimental and has sued for damages. 
 

No matter how far off the handle Carlson or Combs may fly, proving malice with intent to harm is a very high bar. Fox labels these guys as entertainment, not journalism, for a reason. 
 

End result is likely an out-of-court settlement. Dominion ain’t getting $1B+, and Fox doesn’t wanna chance it. Either way, lawyers on both sides are the winners!

Agree to all. 

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2/17/2023 9:06am

I think the election was fixed. Think the 2016 election was also fixed, just not enough. We probably haven’t had a free and fair election in my lifetime. I’ll bow out before I start talking about Cabal’s, the deep state, and other shit. 
 

 

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2/17/2023 10:04am Edited Date/Time 2/17/2023 10:06am
Muttly wrote:
I think the election was fixed. Think the 2016 election was also fixed, just not enough. We probably haven’t had a free and fair election in...

I think the election was fixed. Think the 2016 election was also fixed, just not enough. We probably haven’t had a free and fair election in my lifetime. I’ll bow out before I start talking about Cabal’s, the deep state, and other shit. 
 

 

'Cmon dont stop now.  With Teefus gone, someone needs to carry the torch !    Grinning

 

We need another Iran-Contra and Ronnie Raygun thread.  LOL  Woohoo

 

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2/17/2023 11:40am Edited Date/Time 2/17/2023 11:41am
JAFO92 wrote:
'Cmon dont stop now.  With Teefus gone, someone needs to carry the torch !       We need another Iran-Contra and Ronnie Raygun thread.  LOL    

'Cmon dont stop now.  With Teefus gone, someone needs to carry the torch !    Grinning

 

We need another Iran-Contra and Ronnie Raygun thread.  LOL  Woohoo

 

The only proven election interference has been from the FBI. Thank you, Elon. 
 

Iran/Contra, I’ll tell you that LTCOL Oliver North laid upon his sword like a good Marine. Anybody that’s ever been in the military, or with any common sense, know’s no O-5 has the kind of juice to make all that happen on his own.

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2/17/2023 12:14pm Edited Date/Time 2/17/2023 12:14pm

Next let's talk about the other news team who says that a group of black cops murdered a black guy because of racism. 

Yes let's post TDS memes and do anything except talk about the topic.   Deflect Deflect Deflect........

Uhhh, it relates pretty closely to the topic at hand. The same as when they cover a justified police shooting and they ignore pertinent details and do everything they can to make people angry so that they will burn down their own community. 

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2/17/2023 12:29pm

Liberals are the best Trolls on this board.  They nail it almost every time.

Bravo.

And if you're not trolling and some bullshit that happened at some scum riddled news station truly affects the quality of your weekend....well you need to take some time and deeply analyze where your life went so wrong.

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2/17/2023 2:44pm

at this point in our society, the leap from the Daily Show to Fox News or CNN is millimeters. 

Don't you remember the early days of Jon Stewart doing Daily Show? Shit was hysterical. Go back and find some on YT and compare to the Don Lemon freakshow or Hannity or (pick your flavor). It's ALL entertainment at this point - it hasn't been journalism or NEWS in a long time. 

Oh, and OP has TDS.

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