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First of all, no one “needs” sugar or refined carbohydrates to function. A British guy completed 5 marathons over a 5 day period during a 5 day fast without complications. Now he probably didn’t break his personal records, but it was proof the body has plenty of stores for athletic activity. The animal kingdom doesn’t seem to need chemically refined beet sugar (95% of “real sugar”) or starches to chase prey or escape predators. The entire idea of carbohydrates (other than natural ones found in fruits and veggies) is a relatively new concept in relation to human history and evolution.The FDA propaganda has really worked over the last 50 years or so. Carb-loading for your 15min practice session or pounding a gel pack for the church 5k is nonsense.
I agree that the FDA is trash but implying bread is propaganda and countersignaling as if evolution and animal-inspired eating patterns is the the real hot take is just as absurd. I have tried fat adapted endurance training and personally found it miserable and inferior, but that's just me.
I guess there’s several different angles to this topic. Does an elite athlete benefit from a RedBull or are they not really hurt by it because of the daily calories they’re burning? Does the 45yr old construction worker “need” a Monster on the drive to work because he had 8 beers before bed and 6 hours of sleep? For 99.8% of the population I’d say they’ve already consumed their made up daily allowance of sugars and starches prior to opening a can of Monster or Coke and none of this is needed for the limited physical activity that is performed.
You're right, I'm sorry, the body definitely processes sugar from natural sources like fruits exactly like it processes high fructose corn syrup and other processed ingredients. I'm sure none of the poor health outcomes we're experiencing in the western world have anything to do with the introduction of chemicals into our food and water, I mean it's all just the same as long as you can still bench press 200lb right?
The Shop
Thanks for admitting one is healthy.
Marketing is my guess. They’re horrible.
The context of this discussion is individuals consuming limited amounts of carbohydrates from sugar in the proximity of intense exercise leading to glycogen depletion. I never said anything about HFCS particularly and don't think it's a good food. I never pontificated on western health trends either.
Are you a native english speaker? Your response missed my entire post.
You were responding to someone who said they drink them while mountain biking. I responded to you by saying that mountain biking requires energy which can be supplied by drinking a small amount of red bull lol.
Sorry I didn't mean for it to sound like I condone drinking energy drinks on a daily basis lol. Just once every week or two as a treat on a high output kind of day. I'm guessing anyone chugging those things daily has way bigger dietary issues that need to address lol.
I’m an alani per day kinda man. Ask me anything😂😂😂
Of course they are drinking podium cans (water) after a race everybody knows that. What about during the week? Lots of brands have no sugar no fat versions for healthy people! I especially like C4, that shit gets me twisted! just like a pre workout mix, heavy duty stuff.
Doctor? Can anyone call themselves Doctor? He is NOT a Doctor, he has lots of good advice and is very knowledgeable. Why does he need to lie🤷♀️
Are you a native jackass? I don’t respect you enough to respond to your post. lol You’ve already proven you’re biased and hopped up on Mountain Dew, Chip.
You don’t talk to people like that in real life and I get a kick out of that.
I most likely take more and better vitamins than anyone in the sport, and have for 40 years. Yes, 40.
I would bet money that drinking a half can of the white, no sugar Monster is FAR better for your body than 75 grams of caffeine from coffee or soda, certainly from colas.
I figured out that I have ADD at age 54.
Many caffeine sources cause me to bounce off the ceiling. I simply can't concentrate.
I discovered the white, 10 calorie Monster about a year ago, and the combination works for me with no side effects.
I don't get jittery, my heart doesn't race, and as long as I don't go over about 8 oz during the day (75 grams of caffeine), I can concentrate very, very well.
There's 150 grams of caffeine per can from multiple sources. 1/4 - 1/2 can a day is just about right for me.
It surprised the heck out of me, but when I looked over the ingredients, it reads far better than soda, close to 100% healthy, and it's been easy on the stomach, unlike coffee, or colas.
FYI: I have no affiliation whatsoever with Monster. Just stating my experience.
Kinda related...
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/jan/27/coca-cola-recalls-drin…
Just to clear up a couple of things.
Mountain Dew has a reputation of having a zillion grams of caffeine and lots of sugar.
It has around the same amount of caffeine as other sodas. I believe Diet Dr Pepper has more. One of its ingredients is actually Orange Juice. It's probably one of the healthier sodas that contain sugar.
As far as sugar substitutes go, I've read that Stevia is supposed to be the healthiest, yet it causes digestive issues for many, including myself.
Aspartame has lots of side effects, and really shouldn't even be on the market. A lot of people get migraines from it, and it's been proven that in some people it can actually lower their IQ (while still in the body). I definitely don't like the way it makes me feel.
I don't know if Sucralose is OK health wise, but I have zero side effects from it. Zero.
Ya, I don't know anything about those and feel like you are baiting. FYI - I'm a chemical engineer with decades of experience in industrial chemicals and processes. I have zero aptitude toward food ingredients outside of what I do for my customers. When it comes to what I ingest, I'll stick with just natural God created stuff 99% of the time which has seemed to be fine.
If you're feeling like writing a dissertation on the subject, then have at it. I won't read it. It might be valuable for some. I'll stick with natural foods 99% and 1% splurge/live-a-little items.
Pit Row
Yep, I eat 1 a day, great source of potassium and magnesium.
But if you’re comparing the sugar content of a Monster compared to a banana, one has 14 grams of natural sugars that your body can properly process and turns into energy, while the other has 26 grams of processed sugars that the body can’t fully process so it stores it in muscles or as fat in fat tissue.
OJ, you refuse to listen to actual facts and knowledge and it’s embarrassing. Have another lump.
I was messing with you hehe they're just b vitamins. I do understand your aversion to non-natural foods though. Seeing the mfg plants and envisioning your food coming from a tank with a greasy chemineer on top is enough to give me the same emotions so I respect it.
I was going to ignore this one but I was filling up the van this morning and low and behold a fridge at the counter with no sugar monster reminding me.
Citric Acid- A preservative and disenfectant derived from mould
Sodium Citrate- A preservative that extends the shelf life, stops clumping and absorbs moisture
Erythritol- Artificial sweetener with side effects of bloating, gas and stomach pain. Links to increased blood clotting, risk of stroke or heart attack.
Sucraclose- Artificial sweetener that is unstable when heated. Suppresses immune system, increases cancer risk, erodes the gut lining and kills off probiotics. Studies also have it linked to alzheimers, seizures, dementia, cognitive problems and mood swings. (think splender)
Acesulphame Potassium- Linked to weight gain and is used to mask the bitter, chemical after taste of the first two artificial sweeteners.
Sorbic Acid- Can cause increased urination, dizziness, diarrhea, flushing and headaches
Benzoic Acid- Has its own Hazardous Substance Fact sheet, exposure can cause skin and throat irritation with respiratory stress. Used as an antifungal
Synthetic caffeine- Can cause high blood pressure, anxiety and insomnia
B3 (Nicotinic Acid)- Created using coal tar, ammonia, acids, 3-cyanopyridine and formaldehyde(caused all the horrific birth defects)
B5 (Pantothenic Acid)- Iso butyraldehyde and formaldehyde combined to form a salt, side effects of irratibility, restlessness and disturbed sleep
B6 ( Pyridoxine Hydrochloride)- Made from petroleum ester, hydrochloric acid and formaldehyde can not be absorbed and has been shown to inhibit the action of natural B6 in the body
B12 (Cyanocobalamin)- Has been shown to impair kidney function
D-Glucuronolactone- Unfounded claims of reduced brain fog
Panax Ginseng- Unsafe for long term use with side effects of severe rashing, liver damage and severe allergic reactions
Guarana seed extract- Can cause heart palpitations, anxiety and insomnia
Inositol- Used to treat PCOS in women
Consuming one of these as a once off may not have much of a negative effect, but why would you want to? They're literally a chemical cocktail designed to give you a quick buzz then leave you needing more. This is coming from a former construction site slob who lived off coffee, red bulls and meat pies with chronic health problems and injuries to go along with it. Once you take responsibility for your own health and cut out all the additives, preservatives and chemicals you stabilize your eating habits, moods and energy levels to the point you dont need or want any of the crap anymore because they actually make you feel instantly worse.
Sincerely The Organic "peddler"
And yet I have drunk it every day, I am 65, and not have experienced any of the issues listed?
You know what’s way less healthy than a red bull? Doing 5 consecutive marathons fasted. For a bunch of folks giving out health advice, this is the worst input I’ve read in awhile. Even if some dude did this, it’s not viable for 99.999999999% of the population.
Drinking a Red Bull after riding your dirtbike for 22 minutes on the other hand is fine for 99% of people.
https://type1keto.com/about-dr-ian-lake/
https://journals.lww.com/co-endocrinology/fulltext/2021/10000/nutritional_ketosis_is_well_tolerated,_even_in.6.aspx
Here is the guy and his findings if you’re genuinely interested. These types of experiments aren’t meant to establish a daily routine but to prove theories on keto, sugar, and carbs.
Wasn't there a top guy downing a Coca Cola before/after the race? Ferrandis maybe? I also remember someone eating candies for energy before gate drop.
Lots of guys in different sports drink a coke or something after or during big efforts, they have drank coke during the Tour De France before. Sometimes you just need simple sugars/carbs to replenish your energy.
Some guys in GNCC shake up a coke put it in a bottle and get handed one during the race, usually when your exerting yourself that hard you lose any appetite and your stomach feels off so sometimes its easier to down a coke then those gels or some kind of weird tasting "carb drink"
Ive also seen Jett drinking a coke in a post race with Steve or Vital a couple times.
Yikes. Coca Cola. One of the most sugar heavy soft drinks out there. 😖
Much of that is highly subjective but I remember what happened to you in the last thread when a doctor tried to tell you that some things may not be THAT bad.
I’m glad you had a pseudo-religious experience with cleaning your health up but that doesn’t make you correct.
I'll take two, thank you!
FFS, I have 1 a week, I like the zero Monsters, especially the Apple and Guava. It won't be what I die of.
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