Roczen is a free agent

OnTheCrossbar 9/15/2022 7:08pm
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USA wrote:
It's interesting, he explicitly states "I'm not doing this for the money", but then also says he won't race next year unless he gets an offer...
It's interesting, he explicitly states "I'm not doing this for the money", but then also says he won't race next year unless he gets an offer for good money.

He also says he's doing it for the fans, but he only does what he is obligated to do for sponsors.
clarkgray432 wrote:
He contradicted the shit out of himself that whole interview. Definitely a weird one. Props to Stew as well for not beating around the bush at...
He contradicted the shit out of himself that whole interview. Definitely a weird one. Props to Stew as well for not beating around the bush at all, that was great. Was real confused when he said im not here to ask for fill in rides or anything but proceeded to keep saying he was available and he's a free agent. He's also choosing the fans over a Honda contract.
I took that as he wants a full ride for the year and not to wait around for a fill in.
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Good Kenny needs to get away from the bike/brand that he has, IMO, experienced a lot of trauma on. I believe a fresh start will do wonders for him and his ability to sustain the whole race and season.
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McG194 9/15/2022 7:18pm
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Is it too early to start the "Going back to join Ricky but this time on a Triumph" rumor that I just made up?


Or did I?
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barrs211 wrote:
There’s no way he’s getting under the same tent as Webb. How awkward that would be!
three9zero wrote:
Gas Gas or Husky perhaps? Is the rumor that Husky is done with Rockstar true?
DonM wrote:
Rockstar is with Husky through at least the end of 23
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sdmx wrote:
Lots of factory guys used to do offseason overseas races. What’s the big deal now?
scott_nz wrote:
the WSX series is looking at moving in on outdoors with when they run, ,they have also told the manufacturers they don't want or need them...
the WSX series is looking at moving in on outdoors with when they run, ,they have also told the manufacturers they don't want or need them,

the other offseason races never intended to clash with the USA season,
Actually it’s the other way around…the manufacturers said they won’t support the WSX….
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three9zero wrote:
Gas Gas or Husky perhaps? Is the rumor that Husky is done with Rockstar true?
DonM wrote:
Rockstar is with Husky through at least the end of 23
wb173 wrote:
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You just can’t help yourself can you….
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Press516 wrote:
Well, KTM and Star are both looking a little light in the 450 class for next year... He'll have some irons in the fire and be...
Well, KTM and Star are both looking a little light in the 450 class for next year... He'll have some irons in the fire and be on a quality bike for sure. Top 3-4 guy with race winning capability.
barrs211 wrote:
There’s no way he’s getting under the same tent as Webb. How awkward that would be!
Press516 wrote:
Yeah, a stretch... But Webb might only do SX and Ken might only do Outdoors... Odd, but I could see that happening.
Webb counted his money and will retire after he sustains a minor injury in 2023. His heart is at the bank, not the track...that much is obvious .
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I didn’t know he loved the fans and Australia so much.
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Forty 9/15/2022 8:20pm
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After all that’s said it’s still cool to think about what could have been. When he came out with Honda all this years ago he had everyone covered! Everyone! And then the crash.

Regardless of where this goes, and for what it’s worth coming from me, he has my respect.

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Gravel 9/15/2022 8:33pm
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Seems like there’s another side to the story..

I’ve got a lot of respect for KR, the fact that he’s still riding is absolutely amazing. He’s still got a ton of speed on his good days and should still have more wins in him. I remember watching him on the Suzuki, he was so good on that bike. I just wish he knew how to think more and talk slower, it seems like everything he thinks just falls out of his face with no thought of how it sounds kinda whiny and diva like sometimes.

Hopefully he finds the right fit and enjoys the last few years of his amazing career.
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LouisianaMotocross 9/15/2022 8:38pm
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chasetwo79 wrote:
What 2 free agents are ahead of Kenny? I’ll wait…
DonM wrote:
This year or next….
chasetwo79 wrote:
We’re obviously talking about right now. What 2 free agents out there would do better than Kenny in a full season in 2023. By the way...
We’re obviously talking about right now. What 2 free agents out there would do better than Kenny in a full season in 2023. By the way he’s completed 5 out of the last 6 series and finished 2-4 every time.

You can’t find 2.

Also? Look at Anderson. He hadn’t won a race for almost 5 years, switched teams and wins 9 rounds this year combined. Last year people on here were saying he should retire and that his 2018 title was a lucky season.

There’s zero reason a happy Kenny couldn’t switch teams and real off multiple wins in each series while grabbing his sponsors a ton of camera time.

My point was he won’t do a full year. That’s why I said results overall.
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Press516 wrote:
Well, KTM and Star are both looking a little light in the 450 class for next year... He'll have some irons in the fire and be...
Well, KTM and Star are both looking a little light in the 450 class for next year... He'll have some irons in the fire and be on a quality bike for sure. Top 3-4 guy with race winning capability.
barrs211 wrote:
There’s no way he’s getting under the same tent as Webb. How awkward that would be!
three9zero wrote:
Gas Gas or Husky perhaps? Is the rumor that Husky is done with Rockstar true?
Gas Gas would make sense but he’s a fox guy.

I could see Husky if they detach from rockstar.
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DonM wrote:
This year or next….
chasetwo79 wrote:
We’re obviously talking about right now. What 2 free agents out there would do better than Kenny in a full season in 2023. By the way...
We’re obviously talking about right now. What 2 free agents out there would do better than Kenny in a full season in 2023. By the way he’s completed 5 out of the last 6 series and finished 2-4 every time.

You can’t find 2.

Also? Look at Anderson. He hadn’t won a race for almost 5 years, switched teams and wins 9 rounds this year combined. Last year people on here were saying he should retire and that his 2018 title was a lucky season.

There’s zero reason a happy Kenny couldn’t switch teams and real off multiple wins in each series while grabbing his sponsors a ton of camera time.

LouisianaMotocross wrote:
My point was he won’t do a full year. That’s why I said results overall.
But he’s completed 5 of the last 6 series of SX/MX. He’s also finished top 4 in all 5 of those. Did he drop off from Round 1 of MX to Pala 2? Sure, but he still finished 4th overall.

You have no real data to say he won’t make it through a complete season. He literally has done it almost every year since coming back in 2019 but 1.
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MCR is logical fit for Roczen. WSX; SX; Redbull and Gear Deal, will do anything to help him win. Honda owes Kenny nothing. They stuck by...
MCR is logical fit for Roczen. WSX; SX; Redbull and Gear Deal, will do anything to help him win.

Honda owes Kenny nothing. They stuck by him during illness, injuries… you name it.

As far as Chase goes, heard he’s off to KTM. Epic loss for Honda as he will have more titles than Jett. That’s my bet, Jack!
Jett has more titles than chase
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darren7878 9/15/2022 9:02pm
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Maybe the payday from WSX and Red Bull Rhythm is better than the offer from Honda for a full season of SX?

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Nathaniel129 9/15/2022 9:19pm
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James smelled so much BS in that interview, you could see it around 15 minutes into the YouTube version.
Does Kenny think we are all just stupid and can't see through the misdirection blame-shifting in that interview?
Like I've said before, he was once the golden child of the sport, with maybe 95% of fans liking him if not directly cheering for him.
Every time he posts or opens his mouth for an interview he is tarnishing it all....
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Nathaniel129 wrote:
James smelled so much BS in that interview, you could see it around 15 minutes into the YouTube version. Does Kenny think we are all just...
James smelled so much BS in that interview, you could see it around 15 minutes into the YouTube version.
Does Kenny think we are all just stupid and can't see through the misdirection blame-shifting in that interview?
Like I've said before, he was once the golden child of the sport, with maybe 95% of fans liking him if not directly cheering for him.
Every time he posts or opens his mouth for an interview he is tarnishing it all....
My wife and I were listening to it in the car. I was thinking in my head this guy is done. My wife turns to me and says he sounds like he trying to convince himself that he still wants to race.
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vanillaice782 wrote:
That didn't last long. He's already with team Stiffie. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/09/15/568665/s1200_Snapchat_121145198.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/09/15/568666/s1200_Snapchat_1642372814.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/09/15/568664/s1200_Snapchat_2130247756.jpg[/img]
That didn't last long. He's already with team Stiffie.


That might be the worst photoshop attempt I've seen in my life.. The long neck in the last one, I can't.. 😂
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bvm111 wrote:
Now we know why he posted about his bent up practice bike!
Does anyone know if that Instagram post was before or after he heard from Honda about being passed on? I could see that Honda could be tipped to drop him if they have Jet coming in and he kind of insults them out between contracts. He really couldn't be that dumb or impulsive, right?
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Dirtdigger wrote:
Rumor in the German Paddock is, that he signs with Husky
German paddock, husky.
You mean the js7 coined German chocolate is signing with huski?
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Thisusernameisavailable 9/15/2022 10:07pm
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Forty wrote:
After all that’s said it’s still cool to think about what could have been. When he came out with Honda all this years ago he had...
After all that’s said it’s still cool to think about what could have been. When he came out with Honda all this years ago he had everyone covered! Everyone! And then the crash.

Regardless of where this goes, and for what it’s worth coming from me, he has my respect.

Just to put it in perspective- he had everyone covered, for just approximately 40 minutes of racing (two main events)
After that he was chasing Dungey and crashed.

His 2021 SX season was more impressive IMO.
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ck95 wrote:
I'd have to imagine there's far more to the story, KR94 isn't simply the innocent victim here. He committed himself to a competing SX series that...
I'd have to imagine there's far more to the story, KR94 isn't simply the innocent victim here.

He committed himself to a competing SX series that his sponsor wasn't committed to supplying equipment for, a series that is actually attempting to conflict/compete against the series he's paid to race .

Yeah, Honda probably did have an issue with it.
For sure. I wasn't ever really clear how that was supposed to work. This might be the smoking gun for me now that you point it out. He just might not have the negotiating weight he used to now that Chase and Jett are right there.
Nathaniel129 9/15/2022 10:24pm
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"I believe there is more to it....if they wanted you, two races, I think they would have figured it out" -James

I mean come on, that's about as close to "this is BS" as you can get without saying it, right?
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vanillaice782 9/15/2022 10:33pm
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Mavetism wrote:
That might be the worst photoshop attempt I've seen in my life.. The long neck in the last one, I can't.. 😂
Damn it! I picked the wrong version of him standing. I swear I had a better one, that would have been more believable. I blew it.
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NorCalRedRyder 9/15/2022 10:56pm
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Forty wrote:
After all that’s said it’s still cool to think about what could have been. When he came out with Honda all this years ago he had...
After all that’s said it’s still cool to think about what could have been. When he came out with Honda all this years ago he had everyone covered! Everyone! And then the crash.

Regardless of where this goes, and for what it’s worth coming from me, he has my respect.

Covered for what 1 or 2 and a half races, kinda like Eli did 2015 outdoors? Injuries are a part of the sport and play a huge factor in how things turn out....
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