Glen Helen covered in Snow

Tokyo_Tiddler wrote:

At the same time, there have been temps in the high 60's in mid-February in the snowbelt of the northeast. Many of the ski slopes are...

At the same time, there have been temps in the high 60's in mid-February in the snowbelt of the northeast. Many of the ski slopes are in rough shape and there are major trials that that I haven't been able to ski in recent years because of not enough snow. The record warm temps this winter go all the way up to the Artic circle.

In the past you might have had a warm winter for a year or two, but have not seen anything like this trend in my almost 64 years.

The global warming is causing the really wacky weather and that causes the "climate change"

wrc777 wrote:

I would not say Indiana has had a particularly cold winter, but we had frozen ponds off and on starting in November. I remember it being...

I would not say Indiana has had a particularly cold winter, but we had frozen ponds off and on starting in November. I remember it being in the 70s in December more than once in the late 90s/early 00s. Winter seems to come earlier and harder than it used to, peter out in the middle (mid Jan to late Feb) when it used to be really cold and then come back to take some shots in March.

The weather changes, and it is a big cycle that takes longer to complete than any of us will live. You should not trust any scientist that claims to have it figured out.

sumdood wrote:

Meanwhile on the beach in Oregon      

Meanwhile on the beach in Oregon

 

 

 

PFitzG38 wrote:

I remember having to put chains on at Adelanto way bitd on the way to Mammy, but Ive never seen snow up the Cajon pass let...

I remember having to put chains on at Adelanto way bitd on the way to Mammy, but Ive never seen snow up the Cajon pass let alone on Mt St Helens. Can’t be good.

Tokyo_Tiddler wrote:

At the same time, there have been temps in the high 60's in mid-February in the snowbelt of the northeast. Many of the ski slopes are...

At the same time, there have been temps in the high 60's in mid-February in the snowbelt of the northeast. Many of the ski slopes are in rough shape and there are major trials that that I haven't been able to ski in recent years because of not enough snow. The record warm temps this winter go all the way up to the Artic circle.

In the past you might have had a warm winter for a year or two, but have not seen anything like this trend in my almost 64 years.

The global warming is causing the really wacky weather and that causes the "climate change"

Tokyo_Tiddler wrote:

Interesting to see all the Vital members here that believe they are smarter than the vast majority of the world's leading scientists.

PFitzG38 wrote:

I remember having to put chains on at Adelanto way bitd on the way to Mammy, but Ive never seen snow up the Cajon pass let...

I remember having to put chains on at Adelanto way bitd on the way to Mammy, but Ive never seen snow up the Cajon pass let alone on Mt St Helens. Can’t be good.

Tokyo_Tiddler wrote:

Interesting to see all the Vital members here that believe they are smarter than the vast majority of the world's leading scientists.

Tokyo_Tiddler wrote:

Interesting to see all the Vital members here that believe they are smarter than the vast majority of the world's leading scientists.

Petro Engineer wrote:

I can't wrap my head around being this unequipped for a State that holds the majority of North America snow records. All major California freeways go...

I can't wrap my head around being this unequipped for a State that holds the majority of North America snow records.

All major California freeways go over passes well higher than the snowline.

Adelanto to Mammoth, That is a 6 hour drive with chains at say 45 mph. And before you say you had to run chains, Calif has never went R3.  They close the roads completely long before that, including 395 Bishop all the way past Mammoth north to the NV border.

Interstate 80 closes the road at R2 unless you can show them you aren't ill equipped.

 

Tokyo_Tiddler wrote:

Interesting to see all the Vital members here that believe they are smarter than the vast majority of the world's leading scientists.

wrc777 wrote:

You mean the same “scientists”, and I use that term loosely, that don’t get paid unless they find a “problem” to study? Those same scientists that...

You mean the same “scientists”, and I use that term loosely, that don’t get paid unless they find a “problem” to study? Those same scientists that said we would have significant sea level rise over the last 20 years and yet people who have lived by the ocean, in the same spot, over that time have seen no change in sea level?

Tokyo_Tiddler wrote:

Interesting to see all the Vital members here that believe they are smarter than the vast majority of the world's leading scientists.

wrc777 wrote:

You mean the same “scientists”, and I use that term loosely, that don’t get paid unless they find a “problem” to study? Those same scientists that...

You mean the same “scientists”, and I use that term loosely, that don’t get paid unless they find a “problem” to study? Those same scientists that said we would have significant sea level rise over the last 20 years and yet people who have lived by the ocean, in the same spot, over that time have seen no change in sea level?

sandtrack315 wrote:

If a scientist proved the current global warming was not driven by co2, they'd get a Nature paper (the most prestigious publication one can get) and...

If a scientist proved the current global warming was not driven by co2, they'd get a Nature paper (the most prestigious publication one can get) and grant money for the rest of their lives. You get paid in science by proving other scientists wrong. That's why it works, buddy. 

Tokyo_Tiddler wrote:

Interesting to see all the Vital members here that believe they are smarter than the vast majority of the world's leading scientists.

davis224 wrote:

My scientist fiancé would love to know where the money tree is that you guys say is throwing funding around all willy nilly for anything considered...

My scientist fiancé would love to know where the money tree is that you guys say is throwing funding around all willy nilly for anything considered "green". The oil industry and pharmaceutical industry pay double what she makes working with "green" energy.

Tokyo_Tiddler wrote:

Interesting to see all the Vital members here that believe they are smarter than the vast majority of the world's leading scientists.

WTF_M8 wrote:

"vast majority of the world's leading scientists." ?????

 

Prove it!

wrc777 wrote:

You mean the same “scientists”, and I use that term loosely, that don’t get paid unless they find a “problem” to study? Those same scientists that...

You mean the same “scientists”, and I use that term loosely, that don’t get paid unless they find a “problem” to study? Those same scientists that said we would have significant sea level rise over the last 20 years and yet people who have lived by the ocean, in the same spot, over that time have seen no change in sea level?

sandtrack315 wrote:

If a scientist proved the current global warming was not driven by co2, they'd get a Nature paper (the most prestigious publication one can get) and...

If a scientist proved the current global warming was not driven by co2, they'd get a Nature paper (the most prestigious publication one can get) and grant money for the rest of their lives. You get paid in science by proving other scientists wrong. That's why it works, buddy. 

wrc777 wrote:

That paper would never make it through peer review and you would never get another grant if you submitted it. They haven’t really proved co2 causes...

That paper would never make it through peer review and you would never get another grant if you submitted it. They haven’t really proved co2 causes  significant warming either. A majority of scientists once believed the world was flat too.That turned out not to be true. The atmosphere and weather have far too many variables to be predicted at the current time.  Since you can’t experiment on it it is impossible to test theories. 

Ob917 wrote:

Stuck in Mammoth Mt right now. Hwy 395 is closed going both ways.    

Stuck in Mammoth Mt right now. Hwy 395 is closed going both ways.  

 

sumdood wrote:

Anyone nearby have a snowmobile ?  Might be a cool photo op if nothing else, because we can ! lol

 

Mr. Ted wrote:

I'd really love to see if Ocotillo got snow... that would be a trip. 

WTF_M8 wrote:

"vast majority of the world's leading scientists." ?????

 

Prove it!