Another Ken Roczen Update: Latest Elbow Surgery

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aeffertz 2/20/2017 12:44pm
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I wonder how much of the medical bills Kenny will be stuck with? All these surgeries cannot be cheap.
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C_Hart3 2/20/2017 2:08pm
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aeffertz wrote:
I wonder how much of the medical bills Kenny will be stuck with? All these surgeries cannot be cheap.
I was thinking about this, and about what he said when the doc said he could have lost his arm. After seeing how many surgeries he has been through things looks to be worse than what they have been trying to let on. I think that if he wasnt who he was he probably would have lost his arm.
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muGz.147 2/20/2017 2:21pm
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Motofinne wrote:
9th surgery. And some thought i was too dramatic when i made my prediction that this will be a career effecting injury.



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It already affected his career, how is that a prediction lol
Motofinne wrote:
I meant that the chance of him getting back to the Roczen we saw the first 2 races might be a long shot. And that it...
I meant that the chance of him getting back to the Roczen we saw the first 2 races might be a long shot. And that it might be a injury that effects him in the long run. This is of course only speculation.

There were people speculating on whether he would be back for outdoors or MEC. I said i think A1 2018 is the best case scenario.

But i really, really hope he can be back at some kind of normal Roczen level. He is so young, only 22 or 23. He could possibly win at least 3 more 450 titles(indoors and outdoors).
I agree with this. My opinion? Not that it's worth a pile of beans....is that the chances of Kenny recovering to the level of pre-Anaheim ability is slim to none. Of course, I hope I'm 100% wrong on that...but my gut tells me I'm not.

This whole thing reminds me of Minnesota Vikings QB Teddy Bridgewater. I spoke with some "people in the know" over the weekend that have ties to the Vikings medical staff, and they said that they don't think he'll EVER see an NFL football field again as a starting QB. Both scenarios have athletes that were dangerously close to amputation of a limb, and a recovery process that will be extensive. Both of these young men are in their early 20's and that's great...but these are devastating injuries of the highest level. Optimism is one thing, but there's a level of reality here that cannot be ignored.
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kzizok 2/20/2017 2:31pm
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C_Hart3 wrote:
I was thinking about this, and about what he said when the doc said he could have lost his arm. After seeing how many surgeries he...
I was thinking about this, and about what he said when the doc said he could have lost his arm. After seeing how many surgeries he has been through things looks to be worse than what they have been trying to let on. I think that if he wasnt who he was he probably would have lost his arm.
I dont think it was a matter of worse than they let on, compartment syndrome takes a fast and serious turn. It turned worse than one would normally anticipate. Having that been said, the same effort to save an arm would be given.

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Jspazz wrote:
It already affected his career, how is that a prediction lol
Motofinne wrote:
I meant that the chance of him getting back to the Roczen we saw the first 2 races might be a long shot. And that it...
I meant that the chance of him getting back to the Roczen we saw the first 2 races might be a long shot. And that it might be a injury that effects him in the long run. This is of course only speculation.

There were people speculating on whether he would be back for outdoors or MEC. I said i think A1 2018 is the best case scenario.

But i really, really hope he can be back at some kind of normal Roczen level. He is so young, only 22 or 23. He could possibly win at least 3 more 450 titles(indoors and outdoors).
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I agree with this. My opinion? Not that it's worth a pile of beans....is that the chances of Kenny recovering to the level of pre-Anaheim ability...
I agree with this. My opinion? Not that it's worth a pile of beans....is that the chances of Kenny recovering to the level of pre-Anaheim ability is slim to none. Of course, I hope I'm 100% wrong on that...but my gut tells me I'm not.

This whole thing reminds me of Minnesota Vikings QB Teddy Bridgewater. I spoke with some "people in the know" over the weekend that have ties to the Vikings medical staff, and they said that they don't think he'll EVER see an NFL football field again as a starting QB. Both scenarios have athletes that were dangerously close to amputation of a limb, and a recovery process that will be extensive. Both of these young men are in their early 20's and that's great...but these are devastating injuries of the highest level. Optimism is one thing, but there's a level of reality here that cannot be ignored.
Totally agree with you. I said that he would be lucky to hit the gate at A1 2019, if at all. Just being realistic. He has a VERY serious injury that he may never be able to take the chance of falling off a motorcycle again. That's just the facts.

Racing is not more important than your health when your 23 and have a long life ahead of you yet.
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Shiner 2/20/2017 7:17pm
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Seems like a pretty serious injury..


Has anyone gone through anything similar to this?..
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Shiner wrote:

Seems like a pretty serious injury..


Has anyone gone through anything similar to this?..
Nowhere near Kennys level but I am recovering from a terrible triad in my left elbow. I've lost a ton of ROM and only time will tell what I get back. I can't imagine how stiff his elbow and wrist will be on top of how well it moves.
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I just hope he heals up good. Best wishes for his recovery
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I can't even look at the pics for long. Prayers Kroc. Absolutely horrible.
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Flip109 2/20/2017 9:39pm
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Shiner wrote:

Seems like a pretty serious injury..


Has anyone gone through anything similar to this?..
Panic_Rev wrote:
Nowhere near Kennys level but I am recovering from a terrible triad in my left elbow. I've lost a ton of ROM and only time will...
Nowhere near Kennys level but I am recovering from a terrible triad in my left elbow. I've lost a ton of ROM and only time will tell what I get back. I can't imagine how stiff his elbow and wrist will be on top of how well it moves.
Best wishes to you man. I don't wish that on anyone.
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dmac1 2/20/2017 10:59pm
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Shiner wrote:

Seems like a pretty serious injury..


Has anyone gone through anything similar to this?..
Nothing like what Ken is going through, but his surgeon (Dr. Viola) worked on both of my wrists multiple times and got me fixed up. If anyone can do it, Dr Viola can. He is a perfectionist, but Ken's injuries have obviously been severe and there is only so much a surgeon can do to make things good again.

As to the expenses...I surely don't know, but I do know of a guy who took a long fall when bouldering and the hack who initially worked on him had a prosthetic of some sort made in order to replace part of his humerus bone. Problem was, it was too short! The doc put it in anyway...but thats not how things work!! The patient ended up at Dr. Viola's office while I was still going there and I heard some of the story and that Dr. V was gonna help cover some of the necessary expenses to get the guy back to where he could at least use his arm for 'normal' functions. Lets hope Ken's insurance will cover everything...and that he has a fantastic recovery.

Anyway....Ken, if you're reading this....all the best!!
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luckyguy19 2/21/2017 6:51am
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I'm sure Roczen has some type of health insurance. He's probably on the hook for the amount up to his out of pocket max, then insurance should cover the rest. Part of ACA is there is no lifetime max, insurance has to cover all expenses once the out of pocket max is met.

I had 5 surgeries last year on my collar bone. I only had to pay up to my out of pocket max, which was met with the first surgery. The rest of the 4 other surgeries and IV antibiotics for 7 weeks @ $170 a day, were all covered by my insurance 100%.
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I was waiting at the baggage carousel in the Denver airport Thursday when I looked at the guy standing next to me and realized it was Kenny. I didn't want to bug him, but I acknowledged that I knew what he was dealing with, and I told him that my thoughts were with him, and wished him a full recovery.

He was really cool about it, and actually told me that he was in Colorado for (what he thought) was his last surgery. Super nice guy. Didn't realize it until later, but he was on my flight into Denver.
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Jrewing 2/21/2017 4:46pm
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He'll have mental scars for sure. Physically it'll have to be range limited.
Pardon the pun.. But that's a tough break to what could've been a longer championship streak.
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Skidaddle 2/21/2017 6:38pm
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Maybe Ken has his social medical in Germany still?

Not sure how that works when out of country.

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DrinkMoreWater 2/24/2017 1:24am
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Looks like hes going to lose some ROM to what extent I dont know, if anyones going to bounce back from something like this its Kenny.
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Camp332 2/24/2017 5:12am
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Brutal stuff. Tons of positive vibes launched to you, Sir Ken.
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AHRMA361 2/24/2017 6:02am
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Can't even begin to imagine how much mental toughness he has to muster to stay as positive and forward looking as he has through this ordeal. Tough kid for sure. Pain. It either makes you or breaks you.
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luckyguy19 wrote:
I'm sure Roczen has some type of health insurance. He's probably on the hook for the amount up to his out of pocket max, then insurance...
I'm sure Roczen has some type of health insurance. He's probably on the hook for the amount up to his out of pocket max, then insurance should cover the rest. Part of ACA is there is no lifetime max, insurance has to cover all expenses once the out of pocket max is met.

I had 5 surgeries last year on my collar bone. I only had to pay up to my out of pocket max, which was met with the first surgery. The rest of the 4 other surgeries and IV antibiotics for 7 weeks @ $170 a day, were all covered by my insurance 100%.
I had a screw put into my 5th metatarsal last fall and only paid for the doctor visit copay...so like $60 total.

I was only down for about 6 weeks...and i was ready to kill people. I can't imagine what Kenny is going through. I hope it all comes around for him soon.
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Yeah, things look pretty bad for sure. Every doc I've asked about this has said something to the effect of not a chance.

But you know what, Kenny is special. There is a reason why he was riding at the level he was at, and it wasn't merely talent. We all know how tough our sport is, it's one of the toughest in the world. If you think about the kind of person it takes to make it to the top in our sport, you realize that you can't look at the average population as a metric for how Kenny will do going through this. He has the best doctors and team around him, so if ever there was a person who could defy medical statistics for an injury like this, it's Kenny.

It'll take a long time, and it will be amazing if he is on the line in 2018, but I'm still optimistic.
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JBlain619 2/24/2017 7:25am
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tobz wrote:
Injury being worse than first thought. Combined with bone graph. Doesn't sound good Sad
The bone graph isn't as bad as the first line "worse than first thought" It's almost SOP to have a bone graph to fix the scaphoid/navicular. When I broke mine, they took bone from my radius to minimize the chance of infection and resistance because it came from the same area. Man I hope he can come back from it.
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slipdog 2/24/2017 7:44am
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He'll be fine next year. As long as the don't cut off his arm it will heal and all he needs to do is reach the clutch with his middle and index finger.

NBD, Kenny got this!
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I've been following Ken's insta and makes me feel sick in my gut, can't imagine going through 9 x surgeries and how at this stage its still worse than they thought is a gualing prospect.

Sure theres a lot of suffering going on in the world right now, but as one of our own I guess this resonates more. His positivity on his social media channels have been truly inspiring. True champ even off of the bike.
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jeffro503 2/24/2017 8:21am
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Kenny is one badass dude for sure , and he also has a special kinda drive , that most human's do not have. It may take him a while , but I bet he comes back strong and extremely fast again. he'll find a way to make it work , and in that , I have no doubt. I wouldn't doubt we see him back on the bike either at MEC or A1 this next year. I got faith in this kid.
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Premixed112 2/24/2017 8:41am
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TriRacer27 wrote:
Yeah, things look pretty bad for sure. Every doc I've asked about this has said something to the effect of not a chance. But you know...
Yeah, things look pretty bad for sure. Every doc I've asked about this has said something to the effect of not a chance.

But you know what, Kenny is special. There is a reason why he was riding at the level he was at, and it wasn't merely talent. We all know how tough our sport is, it's one of the toughest in the world. If you think about the kind of person it takes to make it to the top in our sport, you realize that you can't look at the average population as a metric for how Kenny will do going through this. He has the best doctors and team around him, so if ever there was a person who could defy medical statistics for an injury like this, it's Kenny.

It'll take a long time, and it will be amazing if he is on the line in 2018, but I'm still optimistic.
"not a chance" as in that he'll ride again, or that he'll be as fast?
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TriRacer27 wrote:
Yeah, things look pretty bad for sure. Every doc I've asked about this has said something to the effect of not a chance. But you know...
Yeah, things look pretty bad for sure. Every doc I've asked about this has said something to the effect of not a chance.

But you know what, Kenny is special. There is a reason why he was riding at the level he was at, and it wasn't merely talent. We all know how tough our sport is, it's one of the toughest in the world. If you think about the kind of person it takes to make it to the top in our sport, you realize that you can't look at the average population as a metric for how Kenny will do going through this. He has the best doctors and team around him, so if ever there was a person who could defy medical statistics for an injury like this, it's Kenny.

It'll take a long time, and it will be amazing if he is on the line in 2018, but I'm still optimistic.
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"not a chance" as in that he'll ride again, or that he'll be as fast?
I'm going to venture to guess that the doctors working on a professional athlete like Roczen are a good bit above the pay grade of the doctors you are asking. If I had that same injury and went to my local hospital they probably would have cut my arm off, and probably the wrong one at that.

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