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The statement applies equally to 2t kool-aiders as it does to 4t vamps.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say regular folks who prefer smokers do so because they like them, for a lot of reasons including emotional attachment. I don't think it's that hard.
You’re in Cali I see, Power motorsports in Oregon has 23’ YZ250’s for $7,500 OTD
Man I have always wanted too. I heard its one hell of a leg workout lol
Long time 350 guy here, and this thread has me wanting a YZ250x
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Yeah and thats the entire point of this discussion numb nuts lol Hearing from others on their viewpoints on 2 strokes. You know, talking moto with other moto people.
Unlike most of you guys, I am open to changing my opinion like I have admitted in this thread. Multiple times.
not sure what your issue with that is unless youre just always kinda miserable lol
I just made it “125” thumbs up as in…well you know.
Not a trophy bike, but I feel you. I lusted after cone pipes when I was young and couldn't afford it. Had to have one.
Oh man Mav....that MC250/Barcia video is awesome. That track....
XC2 class in GNCC allows 250 4t or 2t but the factory teams run the 4t even KTM.
You're the miserable twit stirring shit because that's more fun for you than bikes.
There's a couple recent 2023 noobs who should STFU.
Trystan Hart playing the smoker like a Stradivarius. This is 12 minutes of pure bliss imo. I have no horse in this debate, but I am partial to 2 strokes.
Two-Strokes are a HELLUVA lot harder to ride fast than Four-Strokes! Fight me!
Horses for courses. E3 allows unlimited capacity 2 and 4 strokes, and most riders use 300 2 strokes. Trials still seems to be split.
I grew up on 2 strokes and they absolutely in my opinion develop a better rider growing up. We can chase that around all day. 4 strokes are awesome and I have owned plenty. Having just put a 2024 KTM 300sx in my stable, I couldn't be happier. 2 strokes are fun, bottom line, even for a 60 year old. Current 2 stroke technology is awesome thanks to KTM and this bike is amazing, just fun to ride, and I enjoy riding something totally opposite to my 2021 Husky 450 which I also love. Saul Good man.
The 250 class in Canada has been equal displacement for a while and none of the “factory” teams are running 2 strokes. Sounded like KTM was going to field one but they could get it to stay together reliably enough to make it through the day and be competitive with the 4 strokes. Would have been interesting to see because Benoit is fast so it would have shown how they truly compare with a good rider.
http://www.directmotocross.com/126-kaven-benoit-to-race-ktm-250f-in-can…
Pros: Suits a riding style of making the engine work. Easy maintenance if you enjoy it/can make it cheap. Great sound if ridden properly. Good for annoying environmentalists (if you enjoy that)
Cons: Doesn't suit a riding of not making the engine work. A lot of maintenance if you don't enjoy it. Not a great sound if ridden poorly. Not as good for the environment (if you value that)
If the pros out weigh the cons, get a 2 stroke. If the cons outweigh the pros, get a 4 stroke. If you want to try something outside the norm, get an electric.
He originally stated that Yamaha and KTM 2 strokes don't sell out every year and that it's quite easy to find roll over's from 2022 rather easily at dealerships.
Pit Row
Didn't he already win a title up there on a 250 two stroke a few years ago?
If I remember correctly, he swapped between the 2 that season depending on track. I think they changed the rules after that where you couldn’t change back and forth throughout the season.
Bring that 450 up to Idaho. The 450 will overheat and stall out on every ledge. Watch Erzberg. Not one 4 stroke got to the finish line. Racing was much closer on 2 strokes in SX and MX. Not as many riders got injured either. A simple porting job and a pipe was way cheaper than a 40k 250 4 stroke engine job. E bikes will wipe out 4 strokes within 5 years. Easier to ride an e bike than a 4 stroke and won't overheat. 2 strokes will still be around.
There were no leftover 22s Two Strokes here in Southern California LOL!
I sold a YZ250 smoker and bought my first four stroke. 2006 KTM 450XC. After the first ride I would have sold the 4 stroke and bought another two stroke if I didn’t know my (then) wife would have lost her mind! Took 6 months and some money to get the KTM working good, but I still miss the YZ, it WAS amazing.
That was 2005. I don’t have that wife anymore but I do still have that 4 stroke KTM as a backup.
🎤 drop…..close the thread
That got me a little choked-up. I’m gonna need a minute…
Watched that video so many times since it dropped, never gets old 😂
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